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Post Early-Entrant Deadline Mock Draft

Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:09 pm
Hi all-

Some things happening with the company I am working for. They have asked me to do 3 mock drafts. One after the early-entrant deadline, one after the combine, one prior to the draft. I don't love these because of the variables that change everything in the coming months but they can at least generate discussion.

Will be around most of today and then back tonight if anyone wants to chat back and forth.

Thanks

Post Early Entrant Deadline Mock Draft:

1: JACKSONVILLE – Evan Neal – OT/Alabama

Priority number one for this franchise is seeing to the best effort and allocation of assets to protect their #1 overall pick from 2021, quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Neal played three positions in three seasons at Alabama and will project to anywhere the new coaching staff sees fit.

2: DETROIT – Aidan Hutchinson – DE/Michigan

The culture being built in Detroit did not produce many wins in 2021, but nearly half of their losses were by one score. The biggest margin they need to make up resides on defense against the pass, where Hutchinson fits in like a block both with that blue collar culture and impact on the edge.

3: HOUSTON – Derek Stingley Jr – CB/LSU

Quarterback Davis Mills proved enough as a rookie on a poor team that he can be the guy moving forward, leaving the door open for a true best player available approach by Nick Caserio and his staff. Stingley, a prototype for the cornerback position, will need to prove he is healthy to warrant this spot.

4: NEW YORK (A) – Kavon Thibodeaux – DE/Oregon

No team in the league allowed more points and yards than the Jets. Defensive Head Coach Robert Saleh knows the best way to turn that around starts with the pass rush and knowing his history in San Francisco, they will pump as many resources into their line as possible starting with a premiere talent in Thibodeaux.

5: NEW YORK (N) – Charles Cross – OT/Mississippi State

There is no point in trying to fix anything else until the holes are filled up front with credible talent that can be ready to compete at a high level over the next year or two. Cross can shift to right tackle and appears pro-ready right now with plus size and body control.

6: CAROLINA – Matt Corral – QB/Mississippi

The Matt Rhule era has not gotten off to a quality start both in the win column (10 in 2 years) and when it comes to building the offense. Their quarterback situation needs a solution and Corral fits the mold with arm and athletic talent.

7: NEW YORK (N) – Ikem Ekwonu – OG/North Carolina State

Two picks in the top seven can go one of two directions, spread out the assets or double dip. I choose the latter to help shorten the gap between their offensive line and everything else on the roster with Ekwonu, a tackle-guard hybrid that brings elite talent to the table even though he may not be ready right away.

8: ATLANTA – Kyle Hamilton – S/Notre Dame

It has been 5 years since Atlanta has put out a top-10 defense when it comes to points and yards allowed respectively and they’ve never done it in consecutive years within the Super Bowl era. Hamilton is the kind of the difference maker that can wear multiple hats, all of them at a high level.

9: DENVER – Malik Willis – QB/Liberty

The lack of success Denver has had in the draft at quarterback should not deter them from going after another first round talent. Willis can do it all but simply needs to be seasoned for a year while Drew Lock gets his final shot in his contract year.

10: NEW YORK – Ahmad Gardner – CB/Cincinnati

The Jets double dip on defense to and bring in a corner that has credible shut-down ability. Gardner is a tall and long cover man with the speed and acceleration to run with anyone down the field. He did not allow a single touchdown in college.

11: WASHINGTON - Sam Howell – QB/North Carolina

The pieces are in place on both sides of the ball as Ron Rivera enters year three at the wheel. Although Tyler Heinicke put forth an admirable effort in relief of Ryan Fitzpatrick this past fall, the entire upside of this team is limited by moderate ceiling. Time for them to make their aggressive move at the most important position in the game rather than shopping at the dollar store.

12: MINNESOTA – Andrew Booth – CB/Clemson

The Vikings have pumped a lot of resources into the defensive backfield but the past two years have been horrid against the pass. It is time for them to go out and swing for the fences, using a top-12 selection on an aggressive corner that is dripping with tools.

13: CLEVELAND – Jameson Williams – WR/Alabama

Another year, another first round Alabama receiver that will be ready to contribute right away despite a torn ACL suffered in early January. The Cleveland receivers have a lot of question marks and in order for them to offset and maximize their strong running game, they need a true number one threat.

14: BALTIMORE – George Karlaftis III – DE/Purdue

With how often the Ravens’ defense gets multiple, Karlaftis’ versatility as an outside defender fits in like a glove. They’ve lose some of their personality up front and this heavy-handed, developing edge threat will produce equally against the run and pass alike.

15: PHILADELPHIA – Devin Lloyd – LB/Utah

The Eagles’ defense lacks a true general in the middle of the field and this is the area of the first round where you will see the off-ball linebackers come off the board. Lloyd brings the size, speed, and tenacity to go along with his high-IQ that will get him on the field right away.

16: PHILADELPHIA – Garrett Wilson – WR/Ohio State

Jalen Reagor won’t have many lives left after two disappointing seasons and this front office needs to keep feeding weapons to Jalen Hurts if they want their passing game to catch up to their league-best performance on the ground. Wilson is a natural pass catcher with elite movement skills that can create before and after the catch.

17: LOS ANGELES (A) – Kenyon Green – OG/Texas A& M

The Chargers hit a home run with their selection of tackle Rashawn Slater last year. With a blossoming quarterback on a rookie contract for at least another two seasons, maximizing the protection up front with a versatile mauler like Green would be wise.

18: NEW ORLEANS – Daxton Hill – S/Michigan

Hill could realistically project to safety or cornerback at the next level. His speed and reaction time excels in more zone-based roles, but the versatility here could further elevate the Saints defense to a truly elite unit as they try to piece together their offense again.

19: PHILADELPHIA – Lewis Cine – S/Georgia

If the back end of this Eagles defense can stay up to par with what they produce up front, watch out. Cine blossomed toward the back half of 2021 on the nation’s best defense. He is all over the place and can thrive in an interchangeable safety role.

20: PITTSBURGH – Kenny Pickett – QB/Pittsburgh

Almost seems like a situation that is too good to be true, a story perfect for sports. The Steelers do not have their long time answer at quarterback on the current roster and Pickett surged at the right time as a senior, earning a first round grade.

21: NEW ENGLAND – Chris Olave – WR/Ohio State

Mac Jones did not have a lot of success and consistency throwing the ball downfield as a rookie and part of that reasoning was the lack of true downfield threats. Olave is pro ready right now and will pose as a threat on all levels of the route tree with his quickness, route proficiency, and ball tracking.

22: LAS VEGAS – Tyler Linderbaum – OC/Iowa

A lot is changing with the Raiders but do not forget that this was a playoff team despite numerous serious distractions. Their culture of leadership made the difference and Linderbaum can be the next piece to that puzzle at a spot that needs an upgrade.

23: ARIZONA – Trey McBride – TE/Colorado State

The Cardinals know how important a true threat at tight end is to their offense, as seen with the in-season trade for Zach Ertz who is a free agent this spring. McBride brings the credible every down impact to this offense with an incredibly high ceiling as a pass catcher.

24: DALLAS – Trevor Penning – OT/Northern Iowa

A lot needs to be done with this Cowboys offense that averaged 39 points per game over a four-game stretch toward the first half of the year and 37.5 points per game over a four-game stretch toward the end of the year. Inconsistency was found up front and Penning could realistically project to tackle or guard at the next level.

25: CINCINNATI – Travon Walker – DE/Georgia

Listed at defensive end, Walker can live inside on passing downs to give an already-strong group of Bengals pass rushers a truly elite ceiling. The identity of this defense can complement an offense that appears to be on the brink of the league’s next high-scoring attack.

26: MIAMI – Nakobe Dean – LB/Georgia

The speed at the second level of this defense could use one more upgrade and there is no better option in that department than Dean, a natural leader to any defense he becomes a part of. Him and Jerome Baker will give them a 1-2 punch that can make a true difference week to week.

27: BUFFALO – Treylon Burks – WR/Arkansas

Innovative minds that are willing to keep an open mind to new ways on offense will love what Burks brings to the table. Similar to what we saw out of Deebo Samuel and Cordarrelle Patterson in 2021, Burks can evolve into a versatile threat that feeds off a system that already produces yards and points.

28: DETROIT – Drake London – WR/USC

Even though this front office and coaching staff are on the same page with building this franchise through the trenches, every credible passing game has multiple credible options in the passing game. London was heading toward a record-setting season prior to a foot injury in 2021 and appears to be an ideal complement to Amon-Ra St.Brown in the slot.

29: KANSAS CITY – David Ojabo – OLB/Michigan

The Chiefs have been trying to piece together production from the edge, but the results have been very inconsistent. Bringing in Ojabo, a raw but tools-rich presence should keep that progression track on the way up in coming years.

30: TAMPA BAY – David Bell – WR/Purdue

The system will continue to put weapons around Tom Brady, plain and simple. With Chris Godwin heading toward free agency on a bad wheel and Antonio Brown gone for good, Bell brings in an NFL-ready skill set and intelligence that will suit the passing game well.

31: TENNESSEE – Jahan Dotson – WR/Penn State

It was clear this receiver room lacked depth when AJ Brown and Julio Jones were off the field. Jones long-term status with the club is not known and it further opens the door for Dotson, an inside-out threat with the best pair of hands in the class and a route running skill set that is already better than most pro receivers.

32: GREEN BAY - DeMarvin Leal – DT/Texas A& M

Leal is a versatile threat that moved all over the defensive front in college. While Green Bay appears set along the starting defensive line, they could use one more moveable chess piece to add more consistency to their pass rush.
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Not gonna lie  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/19/2022 1:12 pm : link
I love Cross and Ekwonu for the Giants. Build a dominant unit.
Totally agree with your giants picks  
Earl the goat : 1/19/2022 1:13 pm : link
Although if cross isn’t there I’d pick Kenyon Green from Texas A and M and put Ikem and green at both guard spots

Can get a RT later on
Possibly kid from TCU
Wish our OL didn't suck so bad  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/19/2022 1:18 pm : link
And we could grab the LB from Utah or Georgia...
I like it  
illmatic : 1/19/2022 1:20 pm : link
I didn’t think Cross could play RT but if he can and if Ekwonu can play at OG this would be an amazing draft.
Sy'56  
Milton : 1/19/2022 1:22 pm : link
Would it shock the hell out of you if the Jaguars selected Drake London first overall? I'm only saying this because he surely has very long odds right now and I'm contemplating placing a wager on him to go #1. I just think there's a possibility that the Jags go the WR route to help out Lawrence if they aren't enamored with the OL choices and a 6'5" target with 4.4 speed (who was, as you say, on a record setting pace before injury) is a QB's wet dream. And I probably won't get better odds on London than whatever the hell they are right now.
thanks for posting  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/19/2022 1:23 pm : link
I would not be opposed to go OL both times. Cross is becoming my early favorite pick for #5.

I noticed you have Ojabo going at 29th. I've seen him mocked all over the place, even to us at #7. Raw but talen-rich as you put it. Do you think he's a guy who you might shoot up your rankings after athletic tests at the Cobmine/Pro Day?

I like how high you have Sam Howell going. He's my favorite QB in this draft. I was kind of hoping the Giants would have a shot at him in Round 2, which is where I've seen other mock drafts have him go. Am I right in thinking Howell's ceiling is higher than any of the other top QB prospects outside of Willis?
I would  
Bones : 1/19/2022 1:24 pm : link
Love this as well. I wonder if the Jets took Ekwonu instead of Thibodeaux, how that would have effected your Giants picks.
Thanks Sy  
Chocco : 1/19/2022 1:27 pm : link
Are you thinking Jax let's Cam Robinson walk or is this strictly the case of them taking the best player available at 1.
RE: Wish our OL didn't suck so bad  
Bones : 1/19/2022 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15560992 GiantsRage2007 said:
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And we could grab the LB from Utah or Georgia...


I wouldn’t be against taking Lloyd at 7 myself. It would be painful watching the Eagles select him.
Hamilton & McKinney  
Thegratefulhead : 1/19/2022 1:28 pm : link
Sy, how tempted were you to mock Hamilton at 7. He could be a gold jacket guy IMO.
Nice mock  
armstead98 : 1/19/2022 1:31 pm : link
It shows that there are 3 OL worthy of the top 7 picks and then a big drop off.

If those are gone then Giants will have to look at other positions, and players like Hamilton could be in play.

Interesting you have Ojabo so low.
Let's go  
adamg : 1/19/2022 1:34 pm : link
Do it Shoen..
RE: Sy'56  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15560995 Milton said:
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Would it shock the hell out of you if the Jaguars selected Drake London first overall? I'm only saying this because he surely has very long odds right now and I'm contemplating placing a wager on him to go #1. I just think there's a possibility that the Jags go the WR route to help out Lawrence if they aren't enamored with the OL choices and a 6'5" target with 4.4 speed (who was, as you say, on a record setting pace before injury) is a QB's wet dream. And I probably won't get better odds on London than whatever the hell they are right now.


Can't say I am very comfortable giving gambling advice...

But I will say there is a chance London is the first WR taken. He will have to test out VERY well and obviously prove the foot is good to go.

Personally I can't see him in top 10 though. I like London, but he had a few drops I hated to see and he isn't as physical as you would think.
This draft has sold me on one thing  
beatrixkiddo : 1/19/2022 1:36 pm : link
If Sy’ believes there are two QBs taken in the top 10 as of this moment, I hope to hell this team trades down to a needy team that wants one and gets another haul of picks. This team won’t be making any signings in FA with our cap situation, and you have to think a new GM and HC will be looking at next year as the year to bring in their QB. They will need ammo and can likely land one or two OL if they really wanted to with trade downs while building more pick capital this year and next.
RE: thanks for posting  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15560998 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I would not be opposed to go OL both times. Cross is becoming my early favorite pick for #5.

I noticed you have Ojabo going at 29th. I've seen him mocked all over the place, even to us at #7. Raw but talen-rich as you put it. Do you think he's a guy who you might shoot up your rankings after athletic tests at the Cobmine/Pro Day?

I like how high you have Sam Howell going. He's my favorite QB in this draft. I was kind of hoping the Giants would have a shot at him in Round 2, which is where I've seen other mock drafts have him go. Am I right in thinking Howell's ceiling is higher than any of the other top QB prospects outside of Willis?


Ojabo is one of the guys that could project anywhere right now. The tools are real, he is still very new to the game so his progression scale can be steeper than most if not all prospects. But he was a beneficiary to a ton of single team blockers and I didn't see enough success on the inside shoulder to warrant a top 15 pick.
RE: Thanks Sy  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15561003 Chocco said:
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Are you thinking Jax let's Cam Robinson walk or is this strictly the case of them taking the best player available at 1.


Long term hedge and a 2022 improvement up front. Neal can play anywhere other than OC
RE: Hamilton & McKinney  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15561007 Thegratefulhead said:
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Sy, how tempted were you to mock Hamilton at 7. He could be a gold jacket guy IMO.


The idea of Hamilton is a fun one. Him and McKinney along with the versatility they already have with Ryan and Love could be a DCs wet dream
thanks Sy!  
Victor in CT : 1/19/2022 1:39 pm : link
and yes please on these 2 picks
Sy - Much Appreciated As Always (Trade Downs ???)  
Trainmaster : 1/19/2022 1:39 pm : link
With you having QBs going to Carolina at #6, Denver at #9 and Washington at #11, how likely do you think it would be that the Giants get an "offer they can't refuse" by either Denver to jump ahead of Carolina at #5 or at #7 to prevent Washington from jumping ahead of them at #9?

Ignoring the trade value chart, what compensation do you think the Giants would be looking at (say limited to 2022 picks)? Moving back to #9 or #11 and say, picking up extra 2nd and / or 3rd rounders in 2022 seems pretty attractive.

Giants seem like they'd still have a chance to get one or both of the guys you have them taking at #5 and #7.

Picking 2 OL in the 1st round will create cap issues down the line  
cosmicj : 1/19/2022 1:40 pm : link
With Thomas and these two guys all on big 2nd contracts in the future.

That’s a best possible outcome, right, because it means all are excellent players. For that reason, I would not double up on a unit in the 1st. Plenty of good OL get drafted in rounds 2 and after.
RE: Sy'56  
Earl the goat : 1/19/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15560995 Milton said:
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Would it shock the hell out of you if the Jaguars selected Drake London first overall? I'm only saying this because he surely has very long odds right now and I'm contemplating placing a wager on him to go #1. I just think there's a possibility that the Jags go the WR route to help out Lawrence if they aren't enamored with the OL choices and a 6'5" target with 4.4 speed (who was, as you say, on a record setting pace before injury) is a QB's wet dream. And I probably won't get better odds on London than whatever the hell they are right now.




I think Jahan Dotson is best WR in draft not named Jameson and a torn ACL
Hard to discuss trades at this point  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:41 pm : link
NYG has a lot of picks in a draft that is incredibly deep because of what Covid did to eligibility.

This is a very good opportunity top build that base that will help this team win in 2023...possibly with a rookie QB at the wheel
A G and T, that would fix the right side for 10 years!  
Jack Stroud : 1/19/2022 1:41 pm : link
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Hell to the Yeah  
averagejoe : 1/19/2022 1:41 pm : link
This is what Giants need to do. In this scenario we may never see Wil Hernandez again, God willing.
Cross and Ekwonu would immediately improve our offensive line.  
Ira : 1/19/2022 1:41 pm : link
I'd be very happy with those picks.
RE: RE: Sy'56  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15561035 Earl the goat said:
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In comment 15560995 Milton said:


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Would it shock the hell out of you if the Jaguars selected Drake London first overall? I'm only saying this because he surely has very long odds right now and I'm contemplating placing a wager on him to go #1. I just think there's a possibility that the Jags go the WR route to help out Lawrence if they aren't enamored with the OL choices and a 6'5" target with 4.4 speed (who was, as you say, on a record setting pace before injury) is a QB's wet dream. And I probably won't get better odds on London than whatever the hell they are right now.





I think Jahan Dotson is best WR in draft not named Jameson and a torn ACL


I am big on Dotson...the size is going t hurt the top end grade and ceiling though.
Exciting  
JB_in_DC : 1/19/2022 1:43 pm : link
that 3 OL could make the grade at our picks. With no Front 7 blue chips available here, I am DOWN.
RE: Picking 2 OL in the 1st round will create cap issues down the line  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15561034 cosmicj said:
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With Thomas and these two guys all on big 2nd contracts in the future.

That’s a best possible outcome, right, because it means all are excellent players. For that reason, I would not double up on a unit in the 1st. Plenty of good OL get drafted in rounds 2 and after.


That is a consideration. But it would not be a significant issue for another 5 years. Hard to say no to that if these guys pan out.
This thread  
SJGiant : 1/19/2022 1:51 pm : link
Should be pinned
RE: Hard to discuss trades at this point  
adamg : 1/19/2022 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15561036 Sy'56 said:
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NYG has a lot of picks in a draft that is incredibly deep because of what Covid did to eligibility.

This is a very good opportunity top build that base that will help this team win in 2023...possibly with a rookie QB at the wheel


Thoughts on day 2 QBs?
Draft  
Archer : 1/19/2022 1:52 pm : link
I am not a fan of using the top two picks for the OL

I prefer Ekwonu to Cross much better run blocker and a better fit at Right Tackle

I would draft Ekwonu and the best player available if the Giants do not trade down.

As for the draft and your rankings there are certain players who I prefer that you have downgraded in the draft
My favorite player in the draft is Dean.
I like Karlaftis, Hamilton, Ojabu, Linderbaum, more than you seem to.

Also, I will be shocked if Willis is drafted in the first round. I have watched all his games thinking he could be a fit for the Giants. How is it possible that a player with his talent is so bad against inferior competition? I expected to see a dominant player and was sorely disappointed.
Sy whats your top 10  
Dankbeerman : 1/19/2022 1:54 pm : link
overall, not by fit.

RE: London  
BigBlueDawg56 : 1/19/2022 1:55 pm : link
Sy. he is 75-1. I like your rationale. I'm in!! thanks
RE: Picking 2 OL in the 1st round will create cap issues down the line  
adamg : 1/19/2022 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15561034 cosmicj said:
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With Thomas and these two guys all on big 2nd contracts in the future.

That’s a best possible outcome, right, because it means all are excellent players. For that reason, I would not double up on a unit in the 1st. Plenty of good OL get drafted in rounds 2 and after.


Why? Why would this create any different kind of cap issues that nailing two picks at any position?

Cowboys and Eagles managed to keep their OL together for a decade...
SY 56  
Earl the goat : 1/19/2022 2:05 pm : link
I notice you don’t have Jordan Davis in first round Honestly I do think Trayvon is the better player

Regarding Georgia’s linebackers of course Nakobe should be a first rounder but I’m also high on Quay Walker and Channing Tindall

I’d love the giants to draft one or both in third round
Your thoughts please
RE: RE: Hard to discuss trades at this point  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15561055 adamg said:
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In comment 15561036 Sy'56 said:


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NYG has a lot of picks in a draft that is incredibly deep because of what Covid did to eligibility.

This is a very good opportunity top build that base that will help this team win in 2023...possibly with a rookie QB at the wheel



Thoughts on day 2 QBs?


I am all about it if you think the value is right. I can say right now Malik Willis in round 2 is an option and even more than that, an ideal look here for NYG. Let him sit, let Jones play out 2022 if the neck clears.

If he plays poorly. goodbye. If he plays well, you have a nice problem on your hands. That and...Willis can still contribute as a package player in 2022. The guy is built like a thick running back
RE: Draft  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15561058 Archer said:
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I am not a fan of using the top two picks for the OL

I prefer Ekwonu to Cross much better run blocker and a better fit at Right Tackle

I would draft Ekwonu and the best player available if the Giants do not trade down.

As for the draft and your rankings there are certain players who I prefer that you have downgraded in the draft
My favorite player in the draft is Dean.
I like Karlaftis, Hamilton, Ojabu, Linderbaum, more than you seem to.

Also, I will be shocked if Willis is drafted in the first round. I have watched all his games thinking he could be a fit for the Giants. How is it possible that a player with his talent is so bad against inferior competition? I expected to see a dominant player and was sorely disappointed.


He may end up being a 3-4th rounder to be honest.

Senior Bowl will be enormous for him, maybe more than anyone else.

But...did you see his OL? Haven't seen an OL that bad in a very long time.
RE: SY 56  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15561099 Earl the goat said:
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I notice you don’t have Jordan Davis in first round Honestly I do think Trayvon is the better player

Regarding Georgia’s linebackers of course Nakobe should be a first rounder but I’m also high on Quay Walker and Channing Tindall

I’d love the giants to draft one or both in third round
Your thoughts please


I am writing my reports on Georgia defenders right now. Walker is higher than Davis at the moment for me. Davis just isn't an every down guy and he didn't impact the passing game enough. I like him, but I think he is lesser than what we see out of Dexter Lawrence.

I am all about the 3 Georgia LBs. All are starters in the NFL...Tindall has some growing up to do though.
RE: RE: RE: Hard to discuss trades at this point  
adamg : 1/19/2022 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15561103 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 15561055 adamg said:


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In comment 15561036 Sy'56 said:


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NYG has a lot of picks in a draft that is incredibly deep because of what Covid did to eligibility.

This is a very good opportunity top build that base that will help this team win in 2023...possibly with a rookie QB at the wheel



Thoughts on day 2 QBs?



I am all about it if you think the value is right. I can say right now Malik Willis in round 2 is an option and even more than that, an ideal look here for NYG. Let him sit, let Jones play out 2022 if the neck clears.

If he plays poorly. goodbye. If he plays well, you have a nice problem on your hands. That and...Willis can still contribute as a package player in 2022. The guy is built like a thick running back


Thanks, buddy. I with you there.
I have heard that it is a very deep OL draft on the interior  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/19/2022 2:11 pm : link
with many OL coming back for a extra year of college from the pandemic. While I understand the need to finally fix the OL we still need impact playmakers all over the roster. Hopefully they can trade down twice. The GM/HC combo will drive the thought process and I believe speed and physicality will be a theme.

Certainly like the players you picked. I think the new regime will want a very good OL for when they address the QB position. Thanks for efforts.

Sy  
Archer : 1/19/2022 2:19 pm : link
My difficulty with Willis is that he took 51 sacks.
In many of these sacks he actually ran into the sacks.

He does not feel pressure and he does not release the ball in a timely way making himself a target.

The Senior Bowl will be important for him but I fear that he is not ready for the NFL

He should have returned for another year



RE: RE: SY 56  
Earl the goat : 1/19/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15561118 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 15561099 Earl the goat said:


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I notice you don’t have Jordan Davis in first round Honestly I do think Trayvon is the better player

Regarding Georgia’s linebackers of course Nakobe should be a first rounder but I’m also high on Quay Walker and Channing Tindall

I’d love the giants to draft one or both in third round
Your thoughts please



I am writing my reports on Georgia defenders right now. Walker is higher than Davis at the moment for me. Davis just isn't an every down guy and he didn't impact the passing game enough. I like him, but I think he is lesser than what we see out of Dexter Lawrence.

I am all about the 3 Georgia LBs. All are starters in the NFL...Tindall has some growing up to do though.


Ok thx so much. Will be awaiting you write ups. Can’t wait. You do a fantastic job

Just for the record. Quay Walker will be a pro bowl player for many years
RE: Sy  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/19/2022 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15561139 Archer said:
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My difficulty with Willis is that he took 51 sacks.
In many of these sacks he actually ran into the sacks.

He does not feel pressure and he does not release the ball in a timely way making himself a target.

The Senior Bowl will be important for him but I fear that he is not ready for the NFL

He should have returned for another year




That and all the prep draft work. I agree with you. I am not seeing the appeal but we will see. His running average was 4.5 yards so I am not sure where the LJ comparisons are coming from against a much lower level of competition. NFL is still a pass first league from the pocket. Look at all the QB's in the playoffs.
RE: RE: Picking 2 OL in the 1st round will create cap issues down the line  
cosmicj : 1/19/2022 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15561067 adamg said:
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In comment 15561034 cosmicj said:


Why? Why would this create any different kind of cap issues that nailing two picks at any position?

Cowboys and Eagles managed to keep their OL together for a decade...


Sure, it can be done but it places a lot of stress on the cap structure. The Titans experience with Tyler Lewan and Conklin illiustratethe dilemma. One of the few times a really good young OT has hit the market and I’m sure the team hated letting it happen.

I’m all for getting a superb OL with one of those 1st rounders but the Giants have to start drafting solid OL in rounds 3-5 to fill out their roster.
Oh No, not you Sy...  
Festina Lente : 1/19/2022 2:31 pm : link
You've been sucked into the never-ending mock-draft vortex as well? I feel for you
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15561139 Archer said:
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My difficulty with Willis is that he took 51 sacks.
In many of these sacks he actually ran into the sacks.

He does not feel pressure and he does not release the ball in a timely way making himself a target.

The Senior Bowl will be important for him but I fear that he is not ready for the NFL

He should have returned for another year




You may be right. He also could have taken another 20 if he wasn't so fast.
Sy  
Boatie Warrant : 1/19/2022 2:46 pm : link
Did you look at the mock from a "what you would do" perspective or a "what the team will do" perspective? I know you don't seem to like doing mocks but I am curious of your approach.
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 1/19/2022 2:50 pm : link
In comment 15561199 Boatie Warrant said:
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Did you look at the mock from a "what you would do" perspective or a "what the team will do" perspective? I know you don't seem to like doing mocks but I am curious of your approach.


What I think teams will do....

One of the reasons I don't like doing these, ha
Question regarding I sure LB'S  
Festina Lente : 1/19/2022 2:56 pm : link
I see you have N. DEAN going quite lower then i have heard. I wonder who you think is the best cover linebacker and who you might think could be a fit for the Giants?
Sy  
19th Hole : 1/19/2022 3:04 pm : link
Would it be a stretch to consider Devin Lloyd at 7 for the Giants? I really miss the days of having good linebackers. Any other LB's to consider in 2nd round? Thanks!
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