Giants request interview for Dan Quinn for HC

GM isn’t hired yet.

In comment 15561348 Sean said:

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GM isn’t hired yet.

Likely means we are hiring someone soon and whoever we were hiring, HC's were discussed. Its also just an interview.

In comment 15561348 Sean said:

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GM isn’t hired yet.

May have been a name brought up in interviews. I don’t know, obviously. But, a few of the candidates may have said they would consider him, so ownership wants to talk to him in the interim

have named their preferred HC choices and they are getting all those interviews lined up proactively ... that makes sense.

Or not get a shot,

Quinn is interviewing everywhere. If they know their finalists are interested, they want to get word to his camp.

That being said… hell no to Dan Quinn

I think he's my favorite candidate.

than Brian Flores.

I would assume his name came up in interviews with candidates.

Mara will choose the the new HC from a list a candidates already approved by the new GM.

Perhaps Quinn made all three GM lists.

;>)

Quinn seems much better suited to being a coordinator, which he is very good at...

of Quinn going to the Broncos.

I wonder if this news has anything to do with that?

But clearly he needs a Rockstar OC.

Thanks.

His tenure in ATL was flat defensively outside 2017. That's his specialty.

hard pass. Not sure he ever recovers from that SB debacle.

In comment 15561366 Toth029 said:

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Thanks. His tenure in ATL was flat defensively outside 2017. That's his specialty.

Some of that was also due to Dimitroff's misses in the draft.

Quinn did some decent work turning around a unit this year in Dallas with more talent spread after Nolan drove that unit into the abyss.

But that said, I'm lukewarm on bringing him here too as you are.

In comment 15561366 Toth029 said:

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Thanks. His tenure in ATL was flat defensively outside 2017. That's his specialty.

His team made a SB and should have won. Blame the defense but the offense shit the bed in the second half of that game.

Quinn is a good coach and quite honestly would be a VERY good HC again. If he were to get an OC with some serious balls we could in great shape.

If the NEW GM (unnamed at the moment) is behind this candidate are you going to piss and moan about it. We have all said let the GM choose his coach, which I believe we would be interviewing guys the GM candidates have asked for, adn he chooses Quinn didn't we get what we wanted?

Eww

As mentioned above, probably a stall tactic.

In comment 15561365 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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But clearly he needs a Rockstar OC.

He was a good HC and he will get the D straightened out. No more Bend but don’t Break Rod Rust Defense! He will need a rockstar OC as Shanahan was the architect of the offense that took them to a Super Bowl and should have won it! His last year was not good and he had two subpar years after the SB year, but still a respectable 43-42 record. He grew up in New Jersey and he wears his cap backwards, which is cool! He gets cool points for that anyway!

wasn't good. Basically went downhill every year afterwards and was fired after awful start to 2020 season.

Kudos to him for putting together a nice D-Coord performance this season, but I would "pass" here...

but hoping for offensive-minded coach.

In comment 15561364 AdamBrag said:

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of Quinn going to the Broncos. I wonder if this news has anything to do with that?

I bet they go with an offensive minded HC as Fangio, a Defensive guy, just got fired.

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So the Giants did put in a request to interview Cowboys DC Dan Quinn for their head coaching job, per a source, despite not having a GM.

My understanding is they saw the interest others had in Quinn and wanted to get in the game so he remains an option for their eventual GM.

Supremely aided by Kyle Shanahan leading ghe charge directing his #1 rated offense. Defense was 27th.

They made the playoffs in 2017 too but didn't do much there. Never made it again after 2017.

the GM hire probably on Friday...so they are requesting to at least set up for the new GM to potential interview him over the weekend?

That is my guess

talk to as many people around the league from other teams as you can. Maybe the Giants didn't want to miss a chance to talk to the Dallas DC before he take a job somewhere else.

I would say that when they interviewed the GM candidates they received the names of some of the coaches that they would be interested in. They are now securing interviews and letting them know there is interest before they get hired by other teams and are no longer available.

This is the smart thing to due. It informs those coaches that they are interested and possibly delays them from being hired. The Giants can always cancel the interview if the hired GM is not interested. I am sure that the Giants will have made a decision on the new GM by tomorrow night and could start HC interviews as soon as Friday or this weekend.

I wonder if NY Giants want to get an opinion of a respected DC about what he thinks of Daniel Jones.

It actually has a significant negative, namely the ownership situation. The head coach will still make out well if new ownership wants their own head coach, but Quinn may not want to screw the quality control coach who is getting paid a fraction of what Quinn is. By making the request it delays Quinn just taking the Denver job.

how could that not come up?

is that there probably aren't any finalists beyond Peters and a decision could come as early as tomorrow night after they wrap up with him.

We are on the verge of finding out who is going to lead this franchise out of the abyss.

On the Giants level of the last 5 years.
Started 1-7 and 0-5 before being fired.
Rosy glasses are you getting the first years in Atlanta or last year's Quinn.
I wouldn't risk it.

Be a way to poke the Cowboys with McCarthy.

I hear he is the HOT name with all the teams.

Uninspiring names for a coach he tops the list he had some terrible seasons in ATL with a good QB.

In comment 15561402 larryflower37 said:

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On the Giants level of the last 5 years. Started 1-7 and 0-5 before being fired. Rosy glasses are you getting the first years in Atlanta or last year's Quinn. I wouldn't risk it.

The tricky part is you can do this for every coach out there.

Flores had a year that people accused him of tanking. This year he had a 1-7 stretch. Never made the playoffs.

Daboll has had no success in the NFL until Josh Allen.

Harbaugh has baggage

Quinn has bad seasons

for a period of time. He did good work with the Cowboys and he is going to be on the list. But, I won't a bright, energetic offensive voice in the mold of Shanhannan, McVeigh, etc.

If we are going the retread road, not sure why Quinn over Pederson. Pederson won the game Quinn blew, made playoffs three of five years, won a playoff game and was an Alshon Jeffery drop from probably going back to the Championship game.

In comment 15561366 Toth029 said:

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Thanks. His tenure in ATL was flat defensively outside 2017. That's his specialty.

remember that defensive roster?

pretty sure he didn't have the ideal personnel, funny how that works.

A lot of times you hear “no first time coach this time”, but then when Quinn gets an interview request, the reaction is “no way”. I don’t want Quinn, but did get to a super bowl.

There’s a reason he’s a hot candidate.

Whoa. This is hard to reconcile with Ranaan's report. Who is going to interview him? Someone here speculated that all three GM candidates may have listed him. But so what? Are they just making appointments for the new GM? Did they get all three to give them their appointment calendars?

they will go ballistic with Quinn calling the shots. He had that SB with the Falcons won. All he had to do is run the ball, or take a knee, and kick a FG. If the Giants had lost that game in that manner, he would have been run out of the city. Folks want him calling the shots come game time?

In comment 15561428 BigBlueNH said:

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they will go ballistic with Quinn calling the shots. He had that SB with the Falcons won. All he had to do is run the ball, or take a knee, and kick a FG. If the Giants had lost that game in that manner, he would have been run out of the city. Folks want him calling the shots come game time?

This is going to happen no matter what. Tom Coughlin is the best HC I've seen on a regular basis in my lifetime. His OC once called 55 throws in gale force winds. They coached themselves into a loss. It happens.

In comment 15561425 Sean said:

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A lot of times you hear “no first time coach this time”, but then when Quinn gets an interview request, the reaction is “no way”. I don’t want Quinn, but did get to a super bowl. There’s a reason he’s a hot candidate.

He did a great job transforming the Dallas D. That work should earn him interviews. I just think, however, like a Norv Turner, he's just a better coordinator. And a very good one.

At least a guy like Pederson was actually a SB winner and made the playoffs both years after winning the SB. So, I would think he'd be more attractive as we see more and more offensive minded HCs in the playoffs.

“My understanding is they saw the interest others had in Quinn and wanted to get in the game so he remains an option for their eventual GM.”

But let’s not let that stop a good bitch session.

In comment 15561427 Josh in MD said:

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Whoa. This is hard to reconcile with Ranaan's report. Who is going to interview him? Someone here speculated that all three GM candidates may have listed him. But so what? Are they just making appointments for the new GM? Did they get all three to give them their appointment calendars?

Requesting an interview is not the same as interviewing.

In comment 15561376 Blue The Dog said:

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Eww

Or the first candidate that was reported. Quinn is a very hot name for several teams including Denver and Miami. The Giants don't want to miss out on Quinn if the new GM wanted to interview him.

You realize how rare that is? Of course, he is an attractive candidate.

His regular and postseason winning percentages are a bit inferior to Coughlin’s but they are in the ballpark.

Quinn was on the list of all remaining candidates, so the Giants went ahead and requested an interview.

I wonder if Dallas accepts.

very bad. They had some hits, but there were a lot of holes in the roster.

In comment 15561440 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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very bad. They had some hits, but there were a lot of holes in the roster.

The head coach is involved in that though. That is not a plus for me for Quinn. I mean, look the GM's job is to get players the coach thinks he can work with. I am not saying Quinn is at the table identifying every FA or late round draft pick, but presumably he was a key contributor in those conversations. So, a bad talent pool, speaks to Quinn's evaluations.

Had Matt Ryan at his peak, yet only has 2 winning seasons.

In comment 15561451 jeff57 said:

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Had Matt Ryan at his peak, yet only has 2 winning seasons.

Agree. Look who his teams had on offense!

Are getting worked up over nothing.

Do people really think that the Giants aren’t asking candidates for interview lists so they aren’t prepared to move quickly?

Goodness gracious…….

About this is Quinn has NFL head coaching experience, which I believe should be a prerequisite.

To be behind him win or tie.

They've seen a lot of us up close and could speak to the issues they've picked on while beating us. Both could give an outside opinion on Daniel Jones too having seen him up close.

Quinn isn't my first choice for the job, but smart to pick his brain.

At the Falcons, the offense looked great when there was an insane offensive coaching staff (Kyle Shannahan, Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel).

Last year, the Cowboys defense looked pretty good, but it created a lot of turnover, not a sustainable stat.

Quinn would be an excellent hire

I doubt he comes here regardless.

In comment 15561464 TheWalrus said:

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They've seen a lot of us up close and could speak to the issues they've picked on while beating us. Both could give an outside opinion on Daniel Jones too having seen him up close. Quinn isn't my first choice for the job, but smart to pick his brain.

I have the feeling Mara views Pederson with a scarlet letter around his neck because of the way 2020 ended.

I think that would be a bit parochial, but it's probably where we are...

In comment 15561353 MotownGIANTS said:

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have named their preferred HC choices and they are getting all those interviews lined up proactively ... that makes sense.

Agree. Get a running start for the new GM...give him who he wants. I like this.

do not get so hung up on the idea of hiring every guy they interview. There are so many reasons why you would interview someone..

1. to get their perspective on how to fix this mess
2. to pick their brain on a myriad of topics
3. to create a perceived competition for negotiation purposes with the coach you would really want
4. to potentially hire the guy if you really like what he has to say
5. to have a backup choice if your top choices do not accept the position

Al Davis used to interview a lot of people just to soak in as much of their knowledge as possible.

too many Quinns

They can't reject a down right promotion can they? Or at least it wouldn't be long term advisable to them.

Morristown or somewhere?

In comment 15561489 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Morristown or somewhere?

yes somewhere in NJ. The decision to hire him should purely be based upon whether he calls it Pork Roll or Taylor Ham

Quinn is from Morristown.

Hopefully they let the GM make this decision but huge fan of this.

In comment 15561492 cosmicj said:

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Quinn is from Morristown.

Well, that should kill any notion of this being a viable idea. ;)

Haha. Taylor Ham vs. Pork Roll...if you're north of the Driscoll, it is Taylor Ham? & if south of the Driscoll...it is Pork Roll?

In comment 15561427 Josh in MD said:

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Whoa. This is hard to reconcile with Ranaan's report. Who is going to interview him? Someone here speculated that all three GM candidates may have listed him. But so what? Are they just making appointments for the new GM? Did they get all three to give them their appointment calendars?

Maybe they said al a carte?

feel like we would be upgrading from horrific to merely mediocre.

For all 3 finalists. Mara needs to not be “recommending” any coaches to anyone.

new coach. Just kidding.

I think this is smart. You don't think they've talked about HC possibilities with these GM candidates? They're getting their ducks in a row and trying to provide some insurance that whoever they pick won't be starting behind the 8 ball. It's shrewd.

He would have to bring in the very best OC that's out there.

I don't think Quinn-or the Falcons @ large-ever recovered from 28-3.

In comment 15561463 81_Great_Dane said:

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To be behind him win or tie.

Fuck him if he starts giving us tie games.

In comment 15561355 Ben in Tampa said:

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Quinn is interviewing everywhere. If they know their finalists are interested, they want to get word to his camp. That being said… hell no to Dan Quinn

Curious why you feel that Quinn should be a hell no?

Related, this feels like a nugget that might suggest that Peters is in better position than I assumed.

In comment 15561402 larryflower37 said:

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On the Giants level of the last 5 years. Started 1-7 and 0-5 before being fired. Rosy glasses are you getting the first years in Atlanta or last year's Quinn. I wouldn't risk it.

Imagine if we had to consider a coach with a career record, at the time, of:

4-12
9-7
11-5
11-5
14-2
7-9
6-10
6-10

What a disaster it would be to hire that guy.

Btw, it’s not possible to blow a 31-3 lead in a SB is it?

In comment 15561498 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Haha. Taylor Ham vs. Pork Roll...if you're north of the Driscoll, it is Taylor Ham? & if south of the Driscoll...it is Pork Roll?

I call it either way. People too hung up on it. Taylor is a brand of pork roll.

As an architect of the legion of Boom, Came close to a second super bowl as a head coach but ran into the best football player to ever play the game and turned around the Cowboys defense. You have to consider him

Picking head coaches again. If you want to be Jerry Jones just do it already… stop it with the puppet GM routine.

Not all coordinators make good head coaches.

Spags proved that.

In comment 15561428 BigBlueNH said:

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they will go ballistic with Quinn calling the shots. He had that SB with the Falcons won. All he had to do is run the ball, or take a knee, and kick a FG. If the Giants had lost that game in that manner, he would have been run out of the city. Folks want him calling the shots come game time?

Quinn could blow farts at the reffs and his in game decisions would look Landry like compared to Judges.

of course they should interview him and get his opinion of their team. This is part of taking that long look at the organization through the eyes of those outside of the Timex complex.

In comment 15561547 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 15561402 larryflower37 said: Quote: On the Giants level of the last 5 years. Started 1-7 and 0-5 before being fired. Rosy glasses are you getting the first years in Atlanta or last year's Quinn. I wouldn't risk it. Imagine if we had to consider a coach with a career record, at the time, of: 4-12 9-7 11-5 11-5 14-2 7-9 6-10 6-10 What a disaster it would be to hire that guy.

Can anyone name available coaches in the ether that have winning career records? Anyone? Please list them for me.

who doesnt have a job ?? LOL !!!!!

BBI: I don’t want any available former head coaches.

WIN! no thanks, full stop.

...he made constant bonehead decisions at Atlanta. Not just in the Super Bowl.

In 2016 in an overtime game (old overtime rules) he went for it on 4th and 1 from his own 45 yard line. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen up to that point. Atlanta didn't make it (actually lost yards) and the Chargers need only 15 yards to get into easy FG range.

That and the Super Bowl and only two winning seasons with that lineup and hard pass.
Falcons’ Dan Quinn makes terrible call in overtime against Chargers - ( New Window )

for what he has accomplished in his NFL career. He orchestrated the greatest defense we've seen in the past 15-20 years in his first season in Seattle. Granted, he had 3 or 4 HOF players, but Quinn got the most out of that unit.

Turned his success into a HC job with Falcons and his first move was to hire Kyle Shanahan as OC (they were a package deal). Building a great staff is a crucial part of an NFL HC's job.

Quinn gets that Falcons team over the hump and they were minutes away from a Super Bowl.

The Falcons FO failed Quinn, failing to acquire impact players on defense and letting the Oline fall apart.

Quinn gets fired, Dallas picks him up as DC. He immediately turns the Dallas Defense around- from one of the leagues worst to a top 10 unit in 2021. Sure, Parsons helped, but one player doesn't make a Defense great

That is quirky and doesnt last year to year

Denver was pegged early on as Quinn's landing spot. Let him go there

Didn't they learn anything from ATL

The Parcells Giants were my formative years.

That being said, This offense is so fucking putrid and devoid of talent, I think area of expertise for the new HC has to be offense.

Figure we will have to develop a QB also and it's a no brainer.

There are some good DCs on the market. Fangio, Zim (maybe), and even Graham. There is some talent on the D side as well.

Doesn't he coach Specials?

GM is on board.

Not sure it was Quinn who was overrated, but maybe Ryan was.

In comment 15561689 dancing blue bear said:

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The Parcells Giants were my formative years. That being said, This offense is so fucking putrid and devoid of talent, I think area of expertise for the new HC has to be offense. Figure we will have to develop a QB also and it's a no brainer. There are some good DCs on the market. Fangio, Zim (maybe), and even Graham. There is some talent on the D side as well.

You might be able to add Flores to that list as well. It seems unlikely that he'll strike out on the HC hunt, but it's not inconceivable that he's left standing when the music stops.

Of just bringing in Quinn to be able to pick his brain? I really don’t want him as the HC. He really didn’t have great success with ATL and the OL being this teams biggest need, ATL OL wasn’t great under Quinn. Yes it isn’t all on the HC, but still am nervous about him. Clearly no guarantee Quinn will be the HC. Want offensive minded HC.

In comment 15561747 UGADawgs7 said:

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Of just bringing in Quinn to be able to pick his brain? I really don’t want him as the HC. He really didn’t have great success with ATL and the OL being this teams biggest need, ATL OL wasn’t great under Quinn. Yes it isn’t all on the HC, but still am nervous about him. Clearly no guarantee Quinn will be the HC. Want offensive minded HC.

That's always a possibility. Similar to signing someone off of your opponent's practice squad when you're about to play that team.

But Quinn is a local guy with a solid track record - if you're looking for a retread, he seems like an attractive option.

I suspect that he's a genuine candidate but that they'll pick his brain regardless so that the interview has value no matter what.

He was successful as a DC, then successful as a HC. After his end in ATL he turned around that DAL defense.

I'm sure he has reflected on his tenure in ATL and what he would do differently.

He's my top candidate.

In comment 15561483 EricJ said:

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do not get so hung up on the idea of hiring every guy they interview. There are so many reasons why you would interview someone.. 1. to get their perspective on how to fix this mess 2. to pick their brain on a myriad of topics 3. to create a perceived competition for negotiation purposes with the coach you would really want 4. to potentially hire the guy if you really like what he has to say 5. to have a backup choice if your top choices do not accept the position Al Davis used to interview a lot of people just to soak in as much of their knowledge as possible.

This is a very interesting post.

Checks a lot of check marks...experienced, winning track record, from the area so should understand the media and fans. Not sure why some here are so against him. This is not the time to experiment and hire an unknown. Get someone in here who has proven he can do the job and do it well. I think hiring an experienced HC is essential considering we're likely hiring an unknown GM. I'll feel a lot more comfortable having someone in that regime who has a proven track record.

About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired.

However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions

1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what
happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else?

2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there
we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super
Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete
Carrol has never been the same since the interception.

*. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery.

In comment 15561478 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I doubt he comes here regardless.

Hopefully the speak to a ton of D coordinators to get the scouting reports and opinions on every Player on Offense.

And the same for Defense too.

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About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery.

Fair points. Stepping back though, Quinn has been to three Super Bowls as a head coach and twice as a defensive coordinator. He won one on dominant fashion as the coordinator of a defense that neutered a hall of fame QB in Peyton Manning, lost another one because of a boneheaded call that he had nothing to do with and was dominating a third before the greatest player in the history of the game went off. He also took a Dallas defense that was OK and turned them around in one season to be one of the best. Andy Reid had a lot of close calls before he finally reached the summit.

Candidates like Quinn don’t go on trees and you can bet that one of the short listed GMs gave Mara the idea to get ahead of asking for permission to interview. I am all in if the new GM has faith in him. We could roll the dice with a young hot shot coordinator who would be a first time head coach - could turn out great like McVay or a disaster like Judge.

Hc’s are going to start coming off the board soon and I’m quite sure all coaches interviewed are on the gm finalists lists

I'd call Harbaugh, but his pricetag is probably a non-starter given what he's already earning at Michigan.

Quinn's a very good DC, super energetic coach, and his players reportedly play hard for him. But, not sure about his HC ceiling.

I’m making Harbaugh an offer he can’t refuse. Top coach…..Top salary….do it

In comment 15561833 joeinpa said:

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About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery.

They're not stupid takes. The reality is all these coaches with experience were fired for a reason and you can hold that against them.

Coughlin was fired in jacksonville amid controversey. He won but was also fired for a reason.

They all have something bad you can point to, so using it to disqualify them will only lead you back to hiring a rookie head coach if what you want is a clean resume.

In comment 15561984 Les in TO said:

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Stepping back though, Quinn has been to three Super Bowls as a head coach...

He had two winning seasons as HC. Not sure where the "three Super Bowls" is coming from...

Also by say he "was dominating a third before the greatest player in the history of the game went off" kind of ignores Quinn's MASSIVE choke job... inarguably the worst in Super Bowl history and probably the worst in playoff history. All the guy had to do was tell Shanahan to call running plays and Atlanta would have won.

And as I mentioned earlier on this thread, as a HC the guy was no stranger to boneheaded game calls that cost his team wins.

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Quinn is from Morristown.

Already too many Irishmen connected with the giants

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In comment 15562369 sb from NYT Forum said:

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In comment 15561984 Les in TO said: Quote: Stepping back though, Quinn has been to three Super Bowls as a head coach... He had two winning seasons as HC. Not sure where the "three Super Bowls" is coming from... Also by say he "was dominating a third before the greatest player in the history of the game went off" kind of ignores Quinn's MASSIVE choke job... inarguably the worst in Super Bowl history and probably the worst in playoff history. All the guy had to do was tell Shanahan to call running plays and Atlanta would have won. And as I mentioned earlier on this thread, as a HC the guy was no stranger to boneheaded game calls that cost his team wins.

He’s gone to the super bowl three times - once as head coach, twice as defensive coordinator. He screwed up the second half with the big lead no doubt. But I believe that people can learn from failures. I value his successes and experience. Coughlin had ups and downs in Jacksonville before taking over the Giants. Reid was a notoriously poor game manager before it clicked in KC.

In comment 15561833 joeinpa said:

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About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery.

Hopefully you were not a huge Fassell defender. Under him we lost a lopsided Super Bowl and had one of the epic collapses in the playoffs against SF

In comment 15561833 joeinpa said:

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About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery.

Hopefully you were not a huge Fassell defender. Under him we lost a lopsided Super Bowl and had one of the epic collapses in the playoffs against SF

I would go for Doug Pedersen.

In comment 15562201 JonC said:

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I'd call Harbaugh, but his pricetag is probably a non-starter given what he's already earning at Michigan. Quinn's a very good DC, super energetic coach, and his players reportedly play hard for him. But, not sure about his HC ceiling.

And he is back to $8 mill per according to a solid UM source.

In comment 15562475 Les in TO said:

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In comment 15562369 sb from NYT Forum said: Quote: In comment 15561984 Les in TO said: Quote: Stepping back though, Quinn has been to three Super Bowls as a head coach... He had two winning seasons as HC. Not sure where the "three Super Bowls" is coming from... Also by say he "was dominating a third before the greatest player in the history of the game went off" kind of ignores Quinn's MASSIVE choke job... inarguably the worst in Super Bowl history and probably the worst in playoff history. All the guy had to do was tell Shanahan to call running plays and Atlanta would have won. And as I mentioned earlier on this thread, as a HC the guy was no stranger to boneheaded game calls that cost his team wins. He’s gone to the super bowl three times - once as head coach, twice as defensive coordinator. He screwed up the second half with the big lead no doubt. But I believe that people can learn from failures. I value his successes and experience. Coughlin had ups and downs in Jacksonville before taking over the Giants. Reid was a notoriously poor game manager before it clicked in KC.

Fair enough, and sorry for coming across as argumentative. I am just not a big "Quinn as head coach" fan.

Not like anything I think matters though.

In comment 15562505 Bruner4329 said:

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In comment 15561833 joeinpa said: Quote: About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery. Hopefully you were not a huge Fassell defender. Under him we lost a lopsided Super Bowl and had one of the epic collapses in the playoffs against SF

and another epic playoff collapse vs. the Vikings in 1997.

Feels like Shurmur 2.0.

In comment 15562645 BSIMatt said:

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Feels like Shurmur 2.0.

Quinn has success as a head coach. 43-42 as a head coach in the regular season, 3-2 in the playoffs. Shurmur is 19-46 with no playoff appearances. He’s also a high energy guy whereas Shurmur is as exciting as Ben Stein’s economic teacher in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

It takes the DC away from the Cowboys. I always like it when the Cowboys get poked in their eyes

and a tepid no regarding Quinn


however - if our new GM is the real deal we really need to respect what his decisions are

In comment 15561561 SleepyOwl said:

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Picking head coaches again. If you want to be Jerry Jones just do it already… stop it with the puppet GM routine.

Sleepy Owl
My thoughts exactly! Why wouldn’t the GM be contacting perspective HC -not the front office!
Same old-same old stuff. Meddling in decisions of the GM.
How would they present it to the new GM… you got the job and here are the candidates you choose from!

In comment 15562508 Bruner4329 said:

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In comment 15561833 joeinpa said: Quote: About any of these guys leaves me with no opinion as to whom should be hired. However, Flores and Quinn are names I recognize and of which I have questions 1.. Flores - Is being party of the Belichick tree a plus or minus? Does what happened in Miami set off alarms for anyone else? 2. Quinn - can’t forget that Super Bowl collapse and if I m not mistaken there we’re several subsequent collapses in seasons following the Super Bowl loss; not sure a coach can overcome something like that. Pete Carrol has never been the same since the interception. *. Stupid take on my part? Anyone else leery. Hopefully you were not a huge Fassell defender. Under him we lost a lopsided Super Bowl and had one of the epic collapses in the playoffs against SF

I was not, that s. Fact, for the reasons you stated, plus an unbelievable loss to Parcells Cowboys on Monday Night