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NFT: Rangers vs Maple Leafs. 7:30 pm.

bluesince56 : 1/19/2022 7:42 pm
Game on TNT. Tough match up
Original 6 matchup  
Anakim : 1/19/2022 7:46 pm : link
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Laf is back in the lineup after his bout with COVID  
Anakim : 1/19/2022 7:47 pm : link
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Lindgren with the whiff...  
Anakim : 1/19/2022 7:52 pm : link
And the Maple Leafs score
And then the Maple Leafs score a PP goal  
Anakim : 1/19/2022 7:55 pm : link
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Putrid defensive effort  
NYerInMA : 1/19/2022 7:56 pm : link
thus far.
WTF  
Del Shofner : 1/19/2022 7:57 pm : link
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And there's Ryan Reaves' first goal as a Ranger  
Anakim : 1/19/2022 8:09 pm : link
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Igor  
bluesince56 : 1/19/2022 8:18 pm : link
has to do a better job controlling the rebounds
Looks like an off night for Igor  
The_Boss : 1/19/2022 8:21 pm : link
Hard to think the final tonight will be 4-3 Rangers
Awful first period  
ShockNRoll : 1/19/2022 8:26 pm : link
They settled down after that 2nd goal, but the 3rd Toronto goal was pretty deflating. Still a lot of time to go against a team missing their best defenseman, but they did not inspire much confidence in any area in that period. Not generating any offense, defense is soft and slow, and Igor, while not really at “fault”, could be better in his rebound control. Next goal is a huge one.
RE: And there's Ryan Reaves' first goal as a Ranger  
The_Boss : 1/19/2022 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15561549 Anakim said:
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2nd too!
At least the  
bluesince56 : 1/19/2022 8:47 pm : link
fourth line showed up tonight
Panarin  
five5 : 1/19/2022 8:48 pm : link
typical...against elite team guy is a no show. need your best players to be just that against everyone
Laffy and KK  
bluesince56 : 1/19/2022 8:54 pm : link
Where are they?
This period has been very good  
ShockNRoll : 1/19/2022 9:03 pm : link
This 4th line is physically dominating. Kreider and Zibanejad setting up some chances, Chytil had a chance down low. They look very good this period, and I expect this game to be tied going into the 3rd.
Great period  
ShockNRoll : 1/19/2022 9:22 pm : link
Just gotta finish off this PK to start the third and keep pushing. Igor has settled down, making some key saves late in that period. I love the physicality they’re playing with. Really great game to watch between two great teams.
Maple Leafs forecheck dominated first period  
Rick in Dallas : 1/19/2022 9:26 pm : link
Rangers forecheck dominated second period.
You know that both coaches are emphasizing the forecheck for the third period at the break. Terrific game so far.
Good call SnR  
pjcas18 : 1/19/2022 9:29 pm : link
and that was a great pass by Strome to Fox on the tying goal, but that goal doesn't happen without Chytil forcing the turnover in the zone at the blue line. (side note - as a coach of kids in youth hockey that turnover drives me crazy - as an NHL coach I'd bench someone)

And for Chytil, not even a 2nd assist, so nowhere on the scoresheet, but he makes plays like that every game I watch him. He is developing that sick hockey IQ stuff that *will* translate into scoresheet results, but even if it doesn't his value is becoming pretty clear to me.

Needs to get better on the dots.
Really liking how Schneider plays in his own end  
Greg from LI : 1/19/2022 9:44 pm : link
Smart and physical. I think he's clearly already ahead of Miller.
Looks like a kick to me  
NYerInMA : 1/19/2022 10:05 pm : link
Not that they ever call it.
Put it in the books  
redbeard : 1/19/2022 10:14 pm : link
This team finds ways to win even when not playing their best

Something to be said for that
Absolutely  
NYerInMA : 1/19/2022 10:16 pm : link
Great job closing this one out. A huge test up next in Raleigh.
Great win  
bluesince56 : 1/19/2022 10:17 pm : link
Five unanswered goals.
Big win after being totally outplayed in first period  
Rick in Dallas : 1/19/2022 10:19 pm : link
Shesterkin with some big saves to keep them in the game.
Nice bounceback after a terrible first period  
Greg from LI : 1/19/2022 10:21 pm : link
The Rangers going from Lundqvist to Shesterkin is like the Packers going from Favre to Rodgers. Amazing.
Good and Bad  
five5 : 1/19/2022 10:26 pm : link
they win getting absolutely nothing from Kakko and Laffy Taffy. I think Rangers are going to make moves at the deadline to win now. I think we have seen enough of their 2 top picks to know what they are at this point. I would absolutely include either in deal for Miller.
Holy shit is that all you ever do?  
Greg from LI : 1/19/2022 10:27 pm : link
Cry about Kakko and Lafreniere?
didn't see this coming  
Del Shofner : 1/19/2022 10:29 pm : link
after such a terrible first period. LGR
Greg  
five5 : 1/19/2022 10:34 pm : link
Where are the tears? Both players have been disappointments to this point. If they are going to make some big moves at the deadline they shouldn't hesitate to deal either one. Neither is becoming an elite player in this league. If the Vancouver ask is Laffy Taffy and a #1, the fact they ask for Laf shows you what most teams think.
If the front office mortgages the future for this squad  
redbeard : 1/19/2022 10:59 pm : link
They should be thrown out in the street.

This is a good hockey team. They are not anywhere on the level of a team that can beat Carolina, Washington, Florida in a 7 game series

You trade a potential cost controlled perennial Allstate in KK or Laf for a good (not great at all) player in Miller and you should be thrown out in your ass

The goal is not a cup


The goal is multiple cups
Five  
ciggy : 1/19/2022 11:14 pm : link
Your complaints about Lafreniere and Kaako sound like some of the same things I heard about Miller years ago. Kind of ironic that that’s the guy you want to trade young assets for.

Rangers and their fans got impatient with Miller. And then he was traded too soon
Drury  
five5 : 1/19/2022 11:26 pm : link
Is going to add at the deadline for sure. I understand your concern about competing with the better teams in the league. I felt the same way a few weeks ago. Hockey is a funny game and things change. They have a great goalie which is obviously critical in making a deep run in the playoffs. Miller has turned into one of the best power forwards in the league and he’s only 28. According to reports, he’s their number one target. We will see how it plays out but if you add a player like that and possibly another depth dman this becomes a very dangerous team.
RE: Really liking how Schneider plays in his own end  
Snablats : 1/19/2022 11:44 pm : link
In comment 15561605 Greg from LI said:
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Smart and physical. I think he's clearly already ahead of Miller.

He is ahead of Miller. Miller has been really bad and needs to be traded for the top 6 forward this team needs. Having a 2nd pair D who gets benched at the end of games for Nemeth isnt good and wont cut it in the playoffs
RE: RE: Really liking how Schneider plays in his own end  
Vanzetti : 1/20/2022 1:51 am : link
In comment 15561676 Snablats said:
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Smart and physical. I think he's clearly already ahead of Miller.


He is ahead of Miller. Miller has been really bad and needs to be traded for the top 6 forward this team needs. Having a 2nd pair D who gets benched at the end of games for Nemeth isnt good and wont cut it in the playoffs


Miller gets too tentative. also, at times, he really lumbers on his skates. Think we could get Pavel Buchnevich for him? :)))
RE: If the front office mortgages the future for this squad  
Vanzetti : 1/20/2022 1:58 am : link
In comment 15561653 redbeard said:
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They should be thrown out in the street.

This is a good hockey team. They are not anywhere on the level of a team that can beat Carolina, Washington, Florida in a 7 game series

You trade a potential cost controlled perennial Allstate in KK or Laf for a good (not great at all) player in Miller and you should be thrown out in your ass

The goal is not a cup


The goal is multiple cups


I agree and disagree.

I agree because the team is missing that extra goal scorer. They had it with Buch but foolishly traded him away. Miller is having a great season but not sure he is what they need. Coming midseason he could disrupt the chemistry.

I disagree because of Igor. The guy is a machine. He might not be quite as good as the Dominator but he is in that mold. Tonight was not one of Igor's better games and we all saw how much better he is than Campbell.

RE: Good and Bad  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 1/20/2022 7:38 am : link
In comment 15561635 five5 said:
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they win getting absolutely nothing from Kakko and Laffy Taffy. I think Rangers are going to make moves at the deadline to win now. I think we have seen enough of their 2 top picks to know what they are at this point. I would absolutely include either in deal for Miller.


Thank God you are not the GM.
There are people who want to trade K'Andre Miller?  
Anakim : 1/20/2022 7:41 am : link
SERIOUSLY? And I disagree that he's been really bad this year. He's had bad games, sure, but al in all he's been pretty solid. He still has a ton of potential and will only get better through the years.


And did someone say they would trade Kakko or Laf for JT fucking Miller?



Wow. Just wow.
Reaves first star  
dpinzow : 1/20/2022 7:41 am : link
2 goals. They put him on the ice towards the end to try and get him a hat trick. I think the crowd even chanted his name at one point
Might Be  
Costy16 : 1/20/2022 7:54 am : link
The best win of the year. They looked disorganized early on when TOR pounced for the two quick goals. But they really turned it on after going down 3-1. Excellent game by Reavo and Igor stopped 27 consecutive shots after giving up the 3rd goal.

I have tickets to the game in Raleigh tomorrow. Hope the snow that is predicted doesn't effect plans too much. Forecast seems to call for a little less chance of precipitation than originally thought.
RE: There are people who want to trade K'Andre Miller?  
Snablats : 1/20/2022 8:15 am : link
In comment 15561739 Anakim said:
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SERIOUSLY? And I disagree that he's been really bad this year. He's had bad games, sure, but al in all he's been pretty solid. He still has a ton of potential and will only get better through the years.


And did someone say they would trade Kakko or Laf for JT fucking Miller?



Wow. Just wow.

Not sure what you are watching re: Miller. He has been awful all season and I've been saying this on Twitter all year. Just refuses to hit anyone, always pokecheck pokecheck pokecheck. He always gets benched in the final few minutes when protecting a lead. He is 6'5 but plays soft and small. We have to trade for a top 6 and find a better 2nd pair D. Someone will want his "upside"
2nd Pair D  
five5 : 1/20/2022 9:28 am : link
If Miller doesn’t pick up his game I can see them dealing for one. They might regardless with so many assets. Also, regarding Miller, the Canucks would not accept either Kakko or Lafreniere straight up for Miller. We can talk about not dealing either (that’s fine) but neither have been very good for any extended period. They’ve played with the best players so we can’t use that excuse anymore.
RE: Might Be  
Bones : 1/20/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15561749 Costy16 said:
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The best win of the year. They looked disorganized early on when TOR pounced for the two quick goals. But they really turned it on after going down 3-1. Excellent game by Reavo and Igor stopped 27 consecutive shots after giving up the 3rd goal.

I have tickets to the game in Raleigh tomorrow. Hope the snow that is predicted doesn't effect plans too much. Forecast seems to call for a little less chance of precipitation than originally thought.


I’ll be at the game Friday myself. I hope you are right about the snow. Should be interesting game. Both teams coming off of big wins.
RE: RE: Might Be  
Costy16 : 1/20/2022 9:50 am : link
In comment 15561891 Bones said:
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The best win of the year. They looked disorganized early on when TOR pounced for the two quick goals. But they really turned it on after going down 3-1. Excellent game by Reavo and Igor stopped 27 consecutive shots after giving up the 3rd goal.

I have tickets to the game in Raleigh tomorrow. Hope the snow that is predicted doesn't effect plans too much. Forecast seems to call for a little less chance of precipitation than originally thought.



I’ll be at the game Friday myself. I hope you are right about the snow. Should be interesting game. Both teams coming off of big wins.


Awesome! Should be a good one, hopefully the weather doesn't cause people to sour on going to the game. This is a big time matchup, and would hope the atmosphere reflects that. Should be a pretty solid contingent of Rangers fans as there always is down here.

I have been watching the weather like a hawk. I ended up getting a hotel near the arena since the greatest chance of snow actually shows to be during the game and I didn't want to chance driving back home in the dark in the snow.
RE: RE: Really liking how Schneider plays in his own end  
BestFeature : 1/20/2022 10:03 am : link
In comment 15561676 Snablats said:
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Smart and physical. I think he's clearly already ahead of Miller.


He is ahead of Miller. Miller has been really bad and needs to be traded for the top 6 forward this team needs. Having a 2nd pair D who gets benched at the end of games for Nemeth isnt good and wont cut it in the playoffs


He's played just over a season had some struggles so now he has to be traded?
RE: RE: There are people who want to trade K'Andre Miller?  
Anakim : 1/20/2022 10:08 am : link
In comment 15561763 Snablats said:
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SERIOUSLY? And I disagree that he's been really bad this year. He's had bad games, sure, but al in all he's been pretty solid. He still has a ton of potential and will only get better through the years.


And did someone say they would trade Kakko or Laf for JT fucking Miller?



Wow. Just wow.


Not sure what you are watching re: Miller. He has been awful all season and I've been saying this on Twitter all year. Just refuses to hit anyone, always pokecheck pokecheck pokecheck. He always gets benched in the final few minutes when protecting a lead. He is 6'5 but plays soft and small. We have to trade for a top 6 and find a better 2nd pair D. Someone will want his "upside"


The kid is what? 21? Someone with his size and speed don’t grow on trees. He hasn’t been awful all season. That’s just not correct. He’s had bad games, but he’s also had really good games. His issue is that he’s still somewhat raw given that he’s only been playing defense for like 5 years.

And I wouldn’t look into his benching in the winding minutes of games. That’s what coaches do: they play the defensive defensemen more to protect the lead. It’s why we used to always see AV move up Kevin Klein to pair with Marc Staal instead of trotting out Dan Boyle, who was Staal’s usual partner. When you’re trying to protect a lead, you don’t take many risks. You play the defensive defensemen. Before you know it, K’Andre will be in that position as he becomes more well-rounded. He’s already damn good as it is. Should he be more physical? Sure. Same with Gauthier. You’d like for them to use that size and strength of theirs better, but that doesn’t mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater.
RE: 2nd Pair D  
Anakim : 1/20/2022 10:10 am : link
In comment 15561861 five5 said:
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If Miller doesn’t pick up his game I can see them dealing for one. They might regardless with so many assets. Also, regarding Miller, the Canucks would not accept either Kakko or Lafreniere straight up for Miller.


Yes, they would. That’s absolutely ridiculous and the last thing we need is a Tyler Seguin situation.
Here's the thing  
Greg from LI : 1/20/2022 10:25 am : link
The Rangers have a logjam of talented young defensemen - Miller, Lundkvist, Jones, Schneider, Robertson. They aren't all going to stay in the organization. Some of them will be dealt.

The plain fact is that Miller has been very shaky this year. He frequently gets caught out of position. He turns the puck over a lot, often because he looks as if he's afraid of handling it. And yes, for such a big guy, he doesn't hit much.

With the usual small sample size caveats, what I've seen of Braden Schneider and Zac Jones has impressed me more than I've seen of Miller. He may have the higher ceiling because of his physical gifts, but I don't think he's a better defenseman than those guys right now.
I would easily trade Zac Jones and Lundkvist before I trade K’Andre  
Anakim : 1/20/2022 10:40 am : link
Hajek should be traded. Fringe player. At best a third pair guy.

No place for Reunanen.

Schneider is likely the successor to Trouba and his 8M per year contract

I don’t know a lot about Robertson, but I heard he’s a very well-rounded defenseman. I heard someone say he is basically a LHD Schneider.

Lundkvist is alright. The jury is out. It’s his rookie season, but he’s looked somewhat underwhelming. Still, he’s a rookie.

Zac Jones is an excellent PMD. He’s just undersized and will get taken advantaged of in his own zone. Much like Fox, he relies on his smarts and sound positioning.

Does it matter if Jones is smaller than Miller  
Greg from LI : 1/20/2022 10:42 am : link
If Miller never actually uses his size?
RE: Does it matter if Jones is smaller than Miller  
Anakim : 1/20/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15562082 Greg from LI said:
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If Miller never actually uses his size?


Yet. He doesn’t use his size yet. Doesn’t mean he won’t.
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