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Andrew Thomas 2021 improvement

shadow_spinner0 : 1/20/2022 4:14 pm
Andrew Thomas final 2021 season Pro Football Focus (PFF) grades and ranking. Thomas went from 59th highest graded tackle in 2020 to 19th highest graded in 2021

2020: 62.4
2021: 78.9
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Love him..  
BigBlueJ : 1/20/2022 4:17 pm : link
He will continue to improve.

Only on BBI will this actually breakout into an argument about why we should have picked a RT in 3...2...1
Nice improvement in his game. He is a keeper.  
Jimmy Googs : 1/20/2022 4:20 pm : link
one of the very few...
I wish they break it out by position  
UConn4523 : 1/20/2022 4:21 pm : link
there's a big enough gap in responsibility and impact at LT that is should be ranked and rated separately from RT. Guards I get but Tackle is a different ballgame.
RE: I wish they break it out by position  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/20/2022 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15562859 UConn4523 said:
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there's a big enough gap in responsibility and impact at LT that is should be ranked and rated separately from RT. Guards I get but Tackle is a different ballgame.

They do rank it separate but I don't have those rankings
If he’s healthy next season  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/20/2022 4:40 pm : link
That grade should go up even farther. He wasn’t great at run blocking this season mostly due to his ankle. He gets that fixed and we’re looking at All Pro caliber tackle.
Thomas  
Slowasski : 1/20/2022 4:41 pm : link
has certainly reached the OK level.
Considering how poorly he played in the first  
Section331 : 1/20/2022 4:41 pm : link
half of 2020, I'm surprised he was ranked even that high.

He has some things to clean up in the run game, but he is the least of our concerns. He and McKinney are the closest things we have to cornerstone players.
I'm old enough to remember  
BlackLight : 1/20/2022 4:42 pm : link
when he played sucky against New England this past preseason, and people were flipping out.
RE: Considering how poorly he played in the first  
UConn4523 : 1/20/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15562900 Section331 said:
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half of 2020, I'm surprised he was ranked even that high.

He has some things to clean up in the run game, but he is the least of our concerns. He and McKinney are the closest things we have to cornerstone players.


The LG and C have a lot to do with that. He's playing with 4 players that very arguably shouldn't be starting in the NFL.
RE: Thomas  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/20/2022 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15562899 Slowasski said:
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has certainly reached the OK level.



Lol @ OK level

He gave up 2 sacks and 4 hits all seasons. Right.
Imagine if he  
Everyone Relax : 1/20/2022 4:58 pm : link
had a competent guard playing next to him. Or even the same guard playing next to him for more than a 2 game stretch
Lookin at just starting left tackles he came in at 9th  
gogiants : 1/20/2022 5:33 pm : link
LT Trent Williams | 98.3
LT Tyron Smith | 91.9
LT Jordan Mailata | 86.9
LT Andrew Whitworth | 86.1
LT Kolton Miller | 84.2
LT Rashawn Slater | 83.7
LT Donovan Smith | 83.3
LT Charles Leno Jr. | 81.1
LT Andrew Thomas | 78.4
LT Jonah Williams | 77.9
LT Jason Peters | 77.9
LT Dion Dawkins | 77.5
LT Garett Bolles | 76.6
LT Taylor Decker | 75.3
LT Orlando Brown Jr. | 75.1
LT Isaiah Wynn | 74.5
LT Duane Brown | 72.0
LT Christian Darrisaw | 71.8
LT Taylor Lewan | 71.4
LT Jake Matthews | 71.4
LT George Fant | 71.1
LT James Hurst | 69.8
LT Eric Fisher | 68.6
LT D.J. Humphries | 67.8
LT Cam Robinson | 67.3
LT Jedrick Wills Jr. | 65.9
LT Alejandro Villanueva | 65.1
LT Yosh Nijman | 63.8
LT Geron Christian Sr. | 59.5
LT Dan Moore Jr. | 57.4
LT Cam Erving | 56.0
LT Liam Eichenberg | 50.7

The rest of the line is in the 23-28th range

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings - ( New Window )
Haha...I wanted Liam Eichenberg in Rd 2  
Jimmy Googs : 1/20/2022 5:44 pm : link
for the Giants (albeit to play Guard).

There goes my shot at the Assistant GM job...

RE: Haha...I wanted Liam Eichenberg in Rd 2  
Dankbeerman : 1/20/2022 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15562975 Jimmy Googs said:
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for the Giants (albeit to play Guard).

There goes my shot at the Assistant GM job...


give it few seasons maybe he pulls a Flowers and is an OK guard
Thomas  
Toth029 : 1/20/2022 6:13 pm : link
Is great. 2 sacks all year.

One was when Glennon held onto the ball forever versus CHI and Quinn got his team-record sack. But he stoned him all game.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/20/2022 6:47 pm : link
Love AT. Now he's just gotta stay healthy, which has nagged him both seasons.
Imagine how good he could be  
Ben in Tampa : 1/20/2022 7:25 pm : link
If he gets healthy?

Dude was hurtin’ big time this year.
The standard for LT play is extremely high today  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/20/2022 7:30 pm : link
Happy with his play, cut down on lower body injuries.
Not possible  
speedywheels : 1/20/2022 7:48 pm : link
I've been old this entire roster sucks, and no one is worth saving...
 
christian : 1/20/2022 8:11 pm : link
He’s definitely in the conversation for a top 3rd LT.

I’ve posted this before, but Sale had a number of candid interviews where he points to Thomas as extremely reliable. That’s a great bar for a guy with less than 30 starts.

The next tier up are guys who get out and attack opponents. Now good chance Thomas doesn’t have the luxury because of his battery mates.

But you watch guys like Wirfs and Williams, even at his age, they are out finding people to hit. And that sets up big plays in the short passing and run game.

There’s a clear difference between Thomas, a guy who’s playing good assignment football and the big play makers.
RE: Lookin at just starting left tackles he came in at 9th  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/20/2022 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15562968 gogiants said:
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LT Trent Williams | 98.3
LT Tyron Smith | 91.9
LT Jordan Mailata | 86.9
LT Andrew Whitworth | 86.1
LT Kolton Miller | 84.2
LT Rashawn Slater | 83.7
LT Donovan Smith | 83.3
LT Charles Leno Jr. | 81.1
LT Andrew Thomas | 78.4
LT Jonah Williams | 77.9
LT Jason Peters | 77.9
LT Dion Dawkins | 77.5
LT Garett Bolles | 76.6
LT Taylor Decker | 75.3
LT Orlando Brown Jr. | 75.1
LT Isaiah Wynn | 74.5
LT Duane Brown | 72.0
LT Christian Darrisaw | 71.8
LT Taylor Lewan | 71.4
LT Jake Matthews | 71.4
LT George Fant | 71.1
LT James Hurst | 69.8
LT Eric Fisher | 68.6
LT D.J. Humphries | 67.8
LT Cam Robinson | 67.3
LT Jedrick Wills Jr. | 65.9
LT Alejandro Villanueva | 65.1
LT Yosh Nijman | 63.8
LT Geron Christian Sr. | 59.5
LT Dan Moore Jr. | 57.4
LT Cam Erving | 56.0
LT Liam Eichenberg | 50.7

The rest of the line is in the 23-28th range https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings - ( New Window )


Thanks for posting this. Thomas definitely improved and it was nice to see.

But looking at that, what a monster Williams is. It scares the ever loving shit out of me that Micah Parsons bull rushed him into the backfield on Sunday. Parsons is all about speed, for him to dominate Williams on a power rush like that was the eye opening. I hope that kid doesn’t wreck Giants/Cowboys games for a long time.
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