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Joe Schoen wants Brian Daboll;Adam Peters wants Brian Flores

Anakim : 1/21/2022 8:58 am
Ryan Dunleavy
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Least surprising ‘news’ ever … but I’m hearing Joe Schoen does indeed have Brian Daboll at top of his HC candidates and Adam Peters does have Brian Flores at top. Sometimes it really is as simple as Connect the Dots, even though you have to do the work to confirm. #giants
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I hope each of them has a backup plan. I understand Schoen-Daboll  
Ivan15 : 1/21/2022 10:30 am : link
Connection. What is the Peters-Flores connection?

Heard very little here in south Florida about Flores conflicts until someone had to justify his firing.
KDavies - the not talking to staff rumor seems like hyperbole  
Eric on Li : 1/21/2022 10:31 am : link
i haven't seen it actually reported anywhere with any kind of substantiated quote. Barry Jackson generally has the best info of the local beats down there and here was his article going through all the points/counterpoints in terms of what he observed as fact and fiction re: Flores.

His conclusion was that Flores was pushing for more control, perhaps unnecessarily since he already had near total control, but shouldn't have been fired and that it was mostly because Grier was more accommodating of Ross than Flores.
Behind-the-scenes fallout, factors in wake of the Flores dismissal - ( New Window )
RE: I hope each of them has a backup plan. I understand Schoen-Daboll  
JB_in_DC : 1/21/2022 10:34 am : link
In comment 15564113 Ivan15 said:
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Connection. What is the Peters-Flores connection?

Heard very little here in south Florida about Flores conflicts until someone had to justify his firing.


Peters started his career at NE, Flores spent 15 years there including first 4 as a scout
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Ugh...  
Johnny5 : 1/21/2022 10:41 am : link
In comment 15563926 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He has had a much better OL than Daniel Jones as well.



This is definitely not true. Fins OL isn't good whatsoever.

True Miami OL sucked. But it was better (or at least much more consistent) than the Giants OL.
RE: KDavies - the not talking to staff rumor seems like hyperbole  
KDavies : 1/21/2022 10:46 am : link
In comment 15564121 Eric on Li said:
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i haven't seen it actually reported anywhere with any kind of substantiated quote. Barry Jackson generally has the best info of the local beats down there and here was his article going through all the points/counterpoints in terms of what he observed as fact and fiction re: Flores.

His conclusion was that Flores was pushing for more control, perhaps unnecessarily since he already had near total control, but shouldn't have been fired and that it was mostly because Grier was more accommodating of Ross than Flores. Behind-the-scenes fallout, factors in wake of the Flores dismissal - ( New Window )


Yeah, there's a lot of rumor and innuendo going around it. My larger point was that whatever was going on with the coaching staff, they were 8-1 when that was going down. I didn't mean for it to be conclusory that he was not talking to his staff.
I think it's Schoen and they'll interview Daboll on Saturday before  
GFAN52 : 1/21/2022 10:47 am : link
the playoffs making them unavailable.
RE: RE: RE: I want a HC with experience, we have failed three times in a row  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/21/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15563923 PatersonPlank said:
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with the "hot assistant coach that year" approach. So I guess this means I like Quinn and Flores (and Harbaugh). Both guys have proven they can win games as an NFL HC



Judge was never a hot assistant, and Shurmur was a retread. We never hired a hot assistant like McDaniel.



Producer/Debaser, Shurmur was the NFL Assistant Coach of Year the season before. He was absolutely a hot commodity. Please try to keep up. McDaniels was a complete failure like Judge at Denver, and was a moron in how he dealt with Cleveland (lucky for Cleveland actually).

I think he's talking about McDaniel, not McDaniels.
RE: If I had to choose a combo  
bronxct1 : 1/21/2022 10:58 am : link
In comment 15563998 uconn18 said:
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It would probably be Peter’s and Flores.

It just seems more like a sure thing in terms of proven experience.

The Giants have gone with 3 brand new head coaches in a row, and having a coach that has actually done the job before would be a breathe of fresh air.


Shurmur wasn't a new coach. He had already been an NFL head coach
RE: RE: If I had to choose a combo  
GFAN52 : 1/21/2022 10:59 am : link
In comment 15564207 bronxct1 said:
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In comment 15563998 uconn18 said:


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It would probably be Peter’s and Flores.

It just seems more like a sure thing in terms of proven experience.

The Giants have gone with 3 brand new head coaches in a row, and having a coach that has actually done the job before would be a breathe of fresh air.



Shurmur wasn't a new coach. He had already been an NFL head coach


Correct the retread track.
Ryan Poles  
jjgmrg901 : 1/21/2022 11:08 am : link
Is he just being interviewed to meet the Fritz Pollard Rooney rule?

I think his history of drafting is exceptional. I think he would take a flyer on Malik Willis which would really be fun.

Fun has been missing from the Giants since OBJ.

We need someone to make us turn on the game. As much as two lineman would help, Willis would be interesting. Let DJ play another season then let Willis take over.

RE: Ryan Poles  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2022 11:16 am : link
In comment 15564234 jjgmrg901 said:
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Is he just being interviewed to meet the Fritz Pollard Rooney rule?




First of all, if the Giants were doing this for tokenism, it would be incredibly unprofessional. The requirement has already been filled. That they have accelerated him to finalist means it's more than that.

And if that wasn't logical enough, he is also a BC alum. John Mara would never do this to another BC man.
Slightly better than Mcadoo/Shurmur/Judge level  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/21/2022 11:30 am : link
HC prospects out there. I'm sure Mara-Tisch chimera will choose wisely... and the GM candidates are a snoozefest clones dopes in suits I doubt hit higher than a chimp throwing darts - btw that chimp GM would have done a lot better than the Giants have done in the last 10+ years.
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