Why can't he hire an experienced DC with maybe some prior head coaching experience? Point is if he hires Daboll we really need to see the makeup of the staff before going off the deep end as some have already.
Best of luck to getting things turned around. I was getting on the recent Peters/Flores pairing but I am hopeful he has a solid plan for Giants. I hope everyone can be a little patient.
please bestow upon this new regime the wisdom and foresight needed to turn the NY Giants into winners again. If we need to sacrifice a chicken say the word.
1. he seems unanimously well-regarded and experienced in organizations with good track records, especially recently in the draft.
2. he had a first hand window into perhaps the greatest QB development job in NFL history. Josh Allen completed just 52% of his passes in year 1 and 58% in year 2. They got both the scouting and development right. He needs to do both right again here whether it's Jones or a draft pick.
3. he also had a first hand window into the importance of quality coaches and coordinators. Daboll and Frazier were both great hires by McDermott. Both well experienced and credentialed and big parts of their success from 2018 on. Interestingly McDermott fired his initial offensive coordinator Rick Dennison after just 1 year in 2017 (Schoen's first year there).
is a big believer in building through the draft. Had some interesting hits when he was in charge of personnel with Dolphins. They tended to get some players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds which is where Giants have failed terribly lately under the last two college scouting/personnel regimes on drafting.
Thats good becuase the Giants have very little cap space this year. Unless they cut a bunch of guys or do some serious contract restructuring, FA wont bring much. Schoen certainly has his work cut out for him
So does Schoen really have total authority over football operations??
is that he was a big part or building the scouting program AND the analytics department in Buffalo. being a GM isnt just picking the players.. Its about the ability to build out a staff and the organization which the Giants need DESPERATELY..
1) Hire your HC
2) Run ALL football operations with hiring and firing power
3) Have final say on draft selections
4) Chris Mara either reports to you or gives up his title
Now, the work begins. My immediate focus is to hire a head coach, with who I will work in lockstep with to create a collaborative environment for our football operations. We will cast a wide net, it can be former head coaches, first-time head coaches but, more importantly, it has to be a person who possesses the ability to lead an organization and the ability to motivate and develop players. On the personnel side, we will begin to evaluate our roster and prepare for the draft and free agency. Our goal is to build a roster that will be competitive, have depth, and most importantly, win football games.
to hire someone who's done the job before because this particular job at this time is a tough one and I don't think a rookie GM can do it but we'll see. I welcome and wish Schoen a lot of luck!
If you hire an experienced GM you run the risk of looking through other people's garbage like gettleman. I am fine with him and hope they give him veto power on personnel.
Mike Kaye
@mike_e_kaye
9m
Speaking with a few NFL folks about new #Giants GM Joe Schoen this afternoon, consistent feedback has been “good eye for talent.”
There is a lot of work that needs to be done.
A lot of work!!!!
Agreed, but likely won't happen until post draft.
Nowhere to go but up, now.
Hard to do worse unless he gets arrested or is outed for sending out pictures of his schlong to women.
2. he had a first hand window into perhaps the greatest QB development job in NFL history. Josh Allen completed just 52% of his passes in year 1 and 58% in year 2. They got both the scouting and development right. He needs to do both right again here whether it's Jones or a draft pick.
3. he also had a first hand window into the importance of quality coaches and coordinators. Daboll and Frazier were both great hires by McDermott. Both well experienced and credentialed and big parts of their success from 2018 on. Interestingly McDermott fired his initial offensive coordinator Rick Dennison after just 1 year in 2017 (Schoen's first year there).
Thats good becuase the Giants have very little cap space this year. Unless they cut a bunch of guys or do some serious contract restructuring, FA wont bring much. Schoen certainly has his work cut out for him
Let’s go Giants
I have very reasonable expectations...
Giants hire Schoen as GM - ( New Window )
That would be a gutsy move for sure.
lol my daughter would do better than Dave.
This will be the intrigue to watch.
Minor area of concern is he overlapped his Panthers tenure with Mark Koncz, who was in the scouting department and was under Gettleman.
1) Hire your HC
2) Run ALL football operations with hiring and firing power
3) Have final say on draft selections
4) Chris Mara either reports to you or gives up his title
If he can remake the scouting department he should be able to turn this franchise around in a few years.
Mike Kaye
@mike_e_kaye
9m
Speaking with a few NFL folks about new #Giants GM Joe Schoen this afternoon, consistent feedback has been “good eye for talent.”