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Schoen first comments as GM

BeckShepEli : 1/21/2022 12:03 pm
"It is an honor to accept the position of general manager of the New York Giants," said Schoen. "I want to thank John Mara and Steve Tisch and their families for this tremendous opportunity. And obviously I am grateful to Brandon and the Bills for the experience I have had in Buffalo.

"Now, the work begins. My immediate focus is to hire a head coach, with who I will work in lockstep with to create a collaborative environment for our football operations. We will cast a wide net, it can be former head coaches, first-time head coaches but, more importantly, it has to be a person who possesses the ability to lead an organization and the ability to motivate and develop players. On the personnel side, we will begin to evaluate our roster and prepare for the draft and free agency. Our goal is to build a roster that will be competitive, have depth, and most importantly, win football games."
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I'm more interested in the new guy  
Red Right Hand : 1/21/2022 1:18 pm : link
not a discussion about yesterdays garbage.
RE: I'm more interested in the new guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2022 1:21 pm : link
In comment 15564796 Red Right Hand said:
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not a discussion about yesterdays garbage.


I mean the information you wanted is right there at the top. What were you looking for in the comments?
Do any of you own a company where you’re not the CEO?  
exiled : 1/21/2022 1:27 pm : link
It’s pretty common. Some of the comments about the Maras’ role in the business are ludicrous.

The Maras own the team. The ARE allowed to have input on what goes on. In fact, we should expect that they will. Hopefully, they’ve learned from their misjudgments and sit in the passenger seat for a while.

I keep saying this. It’s the Maras’ team. We’re just along for the ride.
To those  
AcesUp : 1/21/2022 1:28 pm : link
that want better computah folk, here's how the Bills stacked up there.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32338821/2021-nfl-analytics-survey-most-least-analytically-inclined-teams-future-gm-candidates-more - ( New Window )
RE: Do any of you own a company where you’re not the CEO?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15564839 exiled said:
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It’s pretty common. Some of the comments about the Maras’ role in the business are ludicrous.

The Maras own the team. The ARE allowed to have input on what goes on. In fact, we should expect that they will. Hopefully, they’ve learned from their misjudgments and sit in the passenger seat for a while.

I keep saying this. It’s the Maras’ team. We’re just along for the ride.


The ride sucks.

Hence, the owner needs to hire people who can do the job that he can't.
RE: RE: I'm more interested in the new guy  
Red Right Hand : 1/21/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15564810 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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not a discussion about yesterdays garbage.



I mean the information you wanted is right there at the top. What were you looking for in the comments?
I'm sorry, did I fail to get your hall monitors approval to join the thread? I'm sorry, I didn't see the sign that said shit on gettleman thread, thought this was the schoen thread. I think maybe you are in the wrong thread , not me. Plenty oif shit on gettleman threads here. Go find one.
RE: Forget the Promised Land. Hell, forget the Playoffs.  
AcidTest : 1/21/2022 1:39 pm : link
In comment 15564754 Anakim said:
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I just want Schoen to clean up this mess. We're in salary cap hell, our drafting has sucked, we've been the worst team in the NFL since 2017, we're in QB limbo.


A lot on Schoen's plate and I, for one am willing to be very patient with him.


Agreed.
"And  
AcidTest : 1/21/2022 1:40 pm : link
most importantly, win football games."

We haven't done a lot of that lately, so yeah, that's a positive.
RE: RE: RE: I'm more interested in the new guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15564862 Red Right Hand said:
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not a discussion about yesterdays garbage.



I mean the information you wanted is right there at the top. What were you looking for in the comments?

I'm sorry, did I fail to get your hall monitors approval to join the thread? I'm sorry, I didn't see the sign that said shit on gettleman thread, thought this was the schoen thread. I think maybe you are in the wrong thread , not me. Plenty oif shit on gettleman threads here. Go find one.


You seem upset. No one's stopping you from making a comment about the topic. Go for it.
Hopefully today is not the best day of the year  
arniefez : 1/21/2022 1:43 pm : link
for Giants fans. Step one, so far so good, but many miles to go.
The roster evaluation  
Dnew15 : 1/21/2022 1:45 pm : link
won't take long...

Well people - we got like 3 guys that are any good.
Time of Schoen to show off his Python  
SteelGiant : 1/21/2022 1:48 pm : link
Skills.
What?  
Beer Man : 1/21/2022 1:56 pm : link
No mention of Hog Mollies? (8>
...  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2022 1:59 pm : link
we may see the return of athletes who play football vs "football player" regardless of athletic skill...that will probably be a nice change
RE: How low has our bar gotten?  
Festina Lente : 1/21/2022 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15564531 AdamBrag said:
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He just talked like a grown adult and, rightfully, we are amazed, given the former GM.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a great hire, but what he said isn't anything amazing.


I feel the same about the reaction lol. I think i wanted the peters guy more but i don't know anything
RE: I think it moved  
EricJ : 1/21/2022 2:05 pm : link
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yeah we said that after hearing Judge's first press conference
RE: That word....  
Dr. D : 1/21/2022 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15564515 Optimus-NY said:
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"Collaborative"...Ugh...What does that mean exactly??

Can one of the reporters ask if the Maras are part of that collaboration please with respect to personnel decisions?

P.S. Fire Petit, Konz, and any other sycophants while making sure Chris plays with his ponies and Timmy gets the juice boxes lined up properly in the fridge. Oh yeah, John can take acting lessons from the Tisches for his chair throwing tantrums in the future too.

He used the word "collaborative" in the same sentence in which he was talking about the HC he chooses.

"hire a head coach, with who I will work in lockstep with to create a collaborative environment"

Do you not want him to collaborate with the HC?

I understand the concern, but this seems like an over-reaction to a word taken out of context.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm more interested in the new guy  
Red Right Hand : 1/21/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15564893 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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not a discussion about yesterdays garbage.



I mean the information you wanted is right there at the top. What were you looking for in the comments?

I'm sorry, did I fail to get your hall monitors approval to join the thread? I'm sorry, I didn't see the sign that said shit on gettleman thread, thought this was the schoen thread. I think maybe you are in the wrong thread , not me. Plenty oif shit on gettleman threads here. Go find one.



You seem upset. No one's stopping you from making a comment about the topic. Go for it.
Oh i was until your cunt comments about me being dave in cape cod. Fuck off, along with your advice as to what others can or cant do while you piss and moan about gettleman like an incessant boor.
Welcome and good luck  
thedogfather : 1/21/2022 2:13 pm : link
to Mr. Schoen. He's gonna need it. Fixing this mess is not going to be easy. Gonna take 2 years of good drafting and a lot of luck at the very least.
RE: I am holding my optimism until the HC gets hired and outcome of draft  
Phil S : 1/21/2022 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15564646 MartyNJ1969 said:
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we have been down this road before too many times and this team is operating at around the level of an expansion team.

Not one pro bowl player on this roster and alot of horrible expensive contracts to reconcile going forward.


Everyone loved Judge after his first press conference
No Schoen box  
SirLoinOfBeef : 1/21/2022 2:21 pm : link
comments?...

RE: Do any of you own a company where you’re not the CEO?  
TroyArchersGhost : 1/21/2022 2:36 pm : link
In comment 15564839 exiled said:
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It’s pretty common. Some of the comments about the Maras’ role in the business are ludicrous.

The Maras own the team. The ARE allowed to have input on what goes on. In fact, we should expect that they will. Hopefully, they’ve learned from their misjudgments and sit in the passenger seat for a while.

I keep saying this. It’s the Maras’ team. We’re just along for the ride.

Correction: it’s Mara and Tisch’s team.
Hopefully Eric's Daughter Can Create A Positive Version  
Trainmaster : 1/21/2022 3:06 pm : link
of the infamous "Clown Show" graphic.

After the Head Coach is hired and we have the post press conference group photo, how about Mara, the new Head coach, Tisch and Schoen Photoshopped as Super Heros (one can dream, right)?

If he's able to find another Josh Allen, I'll be ecstatic.  
GeofromNJ : 1/21/2022 3:08 pm : link
If Gettleman had a brain (he doesn't), Allen would be a Giant today instead of Saquon Barkley.
Not to burst any bubbles  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/21/2022 3:14 pm : link
but Chris Bisignano on the Giant Insider podcast said that all three of the finalists were high on Daniel Jones and thought he had been in a terrible position due to scheme, talent and injuries.

That could all be interview talk.

No doubt that will make a number of you crazed.
RE: Not to burst any bubbles  
mfsd : 1/21/2022 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15565220 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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but Chris Bisignano on the Giant Insider podcast said that all three of the finalists were high on Daniel Jones and thought he had been in a terrible position due to scheme, talent and injuries.

That could all be interview talk.

No doubt that will make a number of you crazed.


That by itself doesn't concern me. As long as plans on bringing in competition for Jones and an eventual upgrade, same with every other position on the roster
Late getting here  
Biteymax22 : 1/21/2022 3:48 pm : link
Thank freaking god! Best of luck to him!
RE: Not to burst any bubbles  
The_Boss : 1/21/2022 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15565220 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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but Chris Bisignano on the Giant Insider podcast said that all three of the finalists were high on Daniel Jones and thought he had been in a terrible position due to scheme, talent and injuries.

That could all be interview talk.

No doubt that will make a number of you crazed.


I think after a year evaluating him next season, it'll become quite apparent the franchise needs a new direction at QB. I'm as confident in that occurrence as I am of the sun setting in the West.
I suspect ALL of the above is true  
Dave on the UWS : 1/21/2022 4:24 pm : link
let me explain. It was reported that the Giants and Schoen had been "talking" through back channels for some time. That would indicate that he was a "pre-determined" choice (as expected) from the Mara's. they put on this "legit GM search" as much to make the fans happy as anything else.
But a funny thing happened on the way to the Alter. They came to find there were "many" qualified candidates, that they liked, and could see running their organization. They were able to see how Schoen stacked up against the competition and ended up choosing him partly because they were most comfortable with him, and also he stacked up well against the competition.
So they ended up having a more legit search then they may have intended and got a VERY qualified guy to lead them forward. (whether they let him do his job is the million dollar question as Eric stated).

As far as Jones goes, personally I don't think they can win with him. BUT, I can't believe he is as unproductive as he showed under Judge/Garrett. He was pretty productive under Shurmur, so what is he? Good question for the new HC and OC.
RE: Not to burst any bubbles  
ajr2456 : 1/21/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15565220 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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but Chris Bisignano on the Giant Insider podcast said that all three of the finalists were high on Daniel Jones and thought he had been in a terrible position due to scheme, talent and injuries.

That could all be interview talk.

No doubt that will make a number of you crazed.


He also said Judge was staying the day they fired him. He’s a no nothing turd with an attitude problem
I never heard of him, but I like the fact that he played football in  
Marty in Albany : 1/21/2022 5:44 pm : link
college: QB and WR, and worked his way up from ticket office intern and long time scout. Nobody just handed him a management position.
RE: Not to burst any bubbles  
Sammo85 : 1/21/2022 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15565220 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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but Chris Bisignano on the Giant Insider podcast said that all three of the finalists were high on Daniel Jones and thought he had been in a terrible position due to scheme, talent and injuries.

That could all be interview talk.

No doubt that will make a number of you crazed.


He’s not at all a legit source. Come on now. That’s not believable and he’s just making stuff up if he said that.
I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
Milton : 1/21/2022 5:53 pm : link
...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.
RE: RE: Hog mollies, dahlin'  
adamg : 1/21/2022 6:01 pm : link
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lahts and lahts of hahg mahllies...

Those were the days...



I'm confident Schoen can develop those traits. It's early in his career. Rome wasn't built in a day!


From your lips to gahd's ehrs....
Mara's should be locked out of the HC interview room  
kelly : 1/21/2022 6:16 pm : link
They add no value to the process. In fact they are detrimental to the hiring process as has been made clear by hiring three coaches in six years.

I mean what can the Mara's possibly add to the interview process.

You think they interview in their clown outfits....that would be interesting.

Can you imagine a candidate asking John Mara "so what do you think you got wrong the last three times?"
When Gettleman was hired it reeked  
Ike#88 : 1/21/2022 6:18 pm : link
of no concept of how to keep up with the changes in the way offense is played in this era as well as a "family" hire. A low energy dinosaur. At least the new GM has seen a rebuild first hand and been part of it. Step one to trying to be competitive again.
RE: When Gettleman was hired it reeked  
Milton : 1/21/2022 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15565666 Ike#88 said:
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A low energy dinosaur.
Low energy??? One thing Gettleman cannot be accused of is low energy. The guy had enough restless energy to light a stadium.
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At least the new GM has seen a rebuild first hand and been part of it. Step one to trying to be competitive again.
Gettleman was part of the construction of some excellent Giants teams. He was not some hanger on, he was instrumental in teams that gave us great joy. Whatever you think of him, he is more skilled at talent evaluation than any ten of us combined.
I’m in  
3rdnlong : 1/21/2022 7:29 pm : link
Full bloom love.
RE: I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
christian : 1/21/2022 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15565599 Milton said:
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...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.


With the number of UFAs, injuries, and draft picks there’s a decent chance 25 new guys make the roster next year.
RE: RE: I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
Red Right Hand : 1/21/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15565863 christian said:
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...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.



With the number of UFAs, injuries, and draft picks there’s a decent chance 25 new guys make the roster next year.
Mebbe. They've got 51 players under contract next year, one of the highest in the league, but almost no dead money. 25 cuts is going to equal an awful lot of dead money, a problem we don't currently have. Solve one problem, create another.
lets all hope and pray......  
thrunthrublue : 1/21/2022 9:13 pm : link
they will not be "Schoen him the door" any time soon!!!!! already like what his position statement is.....c'mon hire a great coach, and draft some bad ass mother fuc*&rs!!!! we want to see opposing qb with LT esquel snot bubbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets all hope and pray......  
thrunthrublue : 1/21/2022 9:16 pm : link
they will not be "Schoen him the door" any time soon!!!!! already like what his position statement is.....c'mon hire a great coach, and draft some bad ass mother fuc*&rs!!!! we want to see opposing qb with LT esquel snot bubbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
santacruzom : 1/21/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15565599 Milton said:
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...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.


I know that's a figure of speech but you better be able to wait, preferably forever, because that is not happening.
RE: I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
Go Terps : 1/21/2022 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15565599 Milton said:
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...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.


This is cute. How about his players enjoy a week over .500 first?

When 2022 starts there will be zero players that were on this team in 2017. That 2017 roster was FAR better and more talented than this present one. I wouldn't get too attached to any of these players.

With an actual professional at GM now I imagine we'll begin to be reacquainted with what actual football talent looks like. It's good to finally have hope again.
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Go Terps : 1/21/2022 10:02 pm : link
And as for being more skilled at talent evaluation than any of us, he proved to be worse in real time than a bunch of BBI posters. If I had a Delorian I'd be happy to go back in time and replace that slob with JonC.

And I'm not even going to mention Sy'56, who spun circles around Gettleman with his drafts.
RE: I can't wait until the Giants win a Super Bowl...  
Scooter185 : 1/21/2022 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15565599 Milton said:
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...with more than half the roster originally signed by Gettleman. It would be even funnier if Daniel Jones is the starting QB at the time.


Lol there won't be that many players or Jones left by 2024, so unless they're winning a SB next year
They should take a flamethrower and holy water to this roster  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2022 10:07 pm : link
We will never have to worry about any narrative of the next head coach winning with DGs players. It simply won't happen.
Good luck Joe!  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/21/2022 10:34 pm : link
You’re in the deep waters now.
RE: RE: When Gettleman was hired it reeked  
Ike#88 : 1/22/2022 12:08 am : link
In comment 15565804 Milton said:
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A low energy dinosaur.

Low energy??? One thing Gettleman cannot be accused of is low energy. The guy had enough restless energy to light a stadium.

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At least the new GM has seen a rebuild first hand and been part of it. Step one to trying to be competitive again.

Gettleman was part of the construction of some excellent Giants teams. He was not some hanger on, he was instrumental in teams that gave us great joy. Whatever you think of him, he is more skilled at talent evaluation than any ten of us combined.


You don't look like that if you have enough energy to light a room. We hired a has been and it is why we are now worse than the Jets.
There’s a  
Pete in MD : 1/22/2022 6:20 am : link
Draft room video from last year and Joe seems to be doing a lot of the work. He’s taking calls, discussing trades, etc. Beane is definitely the leader but Schoen is heavily involved in everything.
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