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Daniel Jeremiah 2022 NFL Mock Draft 1.0

M.S. : 1/21/2022 1:07 pm

Published: Jan 21, 2022 at 11:17 AM

He has the Giants going Ikem Ekwonu, OT at #5 and Devin Lloyd, LB at #7

I love both picks, but just one problem. For the umpteenth time, I believe the Giants are taking Matt Corral with their 5th pick.

Daniel Jeremiah has Kenny Pickett going #9 to Denver and Matt Corral #11 to Washington. Whether or not the Giants go QB in Round One, I do not believe Kenny Pickett gets selected before Matt Corral.

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You believe  
cokeduplt : 1/21/2022 1:10 pm : link
The giants are taking Corral based on what?
...  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2022 1:11 pm : link
interesting that he has Linderbaum fairly low in the first round which seems to be what others have said here
Jeremiah is the first to get it right with LB  
Snablats : 1/21/2022 1:16 pm : link
He just chose the wrong one because Jeremiah is a west coast guy and Lloyd played in Pac 12. Giants need to take Dean and then trade down for the OL. Almost every mock has 10 OL in first 45 picks. Trade down and take one and then another with 36
how about we dont make the same mistake  
Rory : 1/21/2022 1:18 pm : link
for the umpteenth time and actually build a offensive line for a QB to be properly groomed behind.

If we go D with the #7  
Joe Beckwith : 1/21/2022 1:21 pm : link
and the 2 top ER are gone, I’m fine with Lloyd or Dean.
I think with Daboll...  
Amtoft : 1/21/2022 1:22 pm : link
Malik Willis is in play, but I prefer Kenny Pickett if we go QB. I like QBs that can take a non-traditional power5 school and make them into contenders. Pitt was horrible before Pickett.
RE: You believe  
M.S. : 1/21/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15564751 cokeduplt said:
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The giants are taking Corral based on what?


(1) I believe Matt Corral can be special. Very special;
(2) I believe a new GM & HC will want to go in a new direction at QB;
(3) They will provide Matt Corral with the best protection possible by letting Daniel Jones take majority of snaps in 2022;
(4) And if Daniel Jones somehow, someway has a great season, well, then, that's a good problem to have.

And, if the Giants do not go QB in Round One, then IMO their 5th pick will be in high demand.
Love those picks as well  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 1:37 pm : link
Really doubt they will take Corral.
build the foundation first  
mphbullet36 : 1/21/2022 1:40 pm : link
they secure the QB later

this is a multi year rebuild
He obviously loves  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 1:42 pm : link
The Georgia defense to hit it big in the NFL.
Like those two picks  
PatersonPlank : 1/21/2022 1:42 pm : link
and I don't like Corral. Pick a QB in Rd 2, very likely will be just as good as anyone picked in Rd 1
Like Sy’s mock which left Karlaftis for Baltimore  
BillT : 1/21/2022 1:45 pm : link
Here’s he’s left for the Eagles. We need a stud edge more than any other defensive position. Now, I don’t if he’s good enough to be the 7 but we have a chance here to get two top players at our two biggest needs. I hope it works out that way.
RE: build the foundation first  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2022 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15564884 mphbullet36 said:
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they secure the QB later

this is a multi year rebuild


Franchise QBs don't sit around waiting to be picked until you are ready. It is the most important position on the field. If you have a shot at one you get him, period.

And if Schoen and whoever he hires for HC believe one of these guys is a franchise QB, I'll be thrilled to get them this year. Plenty of good, young QBs are having success behind crappy Olines.
I love those picks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2022 1:51 pm : link
BTW  
M.S. : 1/21/2022 1:54 pm : link

If the Giants do go QB at 5 or 7, that would be a pretty good sign that Mara let Schoen have full, independent authority over personnel by allowing him to walk away from Daniel Jones.
Lloyd is a helluva player...  
bw in dc : 1/21/2022 1:55 pm : link
He's a "just add water and stir" starter from day one.

Really interesting that DJ has Bernard Raimann going so high and Cross dropping. I've read a lot about Raiman and he's very interesting.
Does anyone else have  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/21/2022 2:01 pm : link
Ahmad Gardner going this high?
Bookend Tackles  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/21/2022 2:04 pm : link
is a good play to start. I think Devin is going to drop quite a bit by draft time.
I don't know how to feel about Lloyd being taken  
barens : 1/21/2022 2:04 pm : link
before Dean. Lloyd is bigger and longer, but Dean is fast, has great instincts, is a great blitzer, and has played in the toughest league.
RE: Does anyone else have  
bw in dc : 1/21/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15564969 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Ahmad Gardner going this high?


I like McCreary the best, but Gardner is very, very good.

Good to see DJ moving Stingley down. I think his lack of productivity and health are going to be concerns.
RE: Does anyone else have  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15564969 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Ahmad Gardner going this high?


I’ve seen others have him in the top 10.
RE: I don't know how to feel about Lloyd being taken  
JFIB : 1/21/2022 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15564979 barens said:
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before Dean. Lloyd is bigger and longer, but Dean is fast, has great instincts, is a great blitzer, and has played in the toughest league.


This ^^^^^^^^^^
I'd be happy with both picks  
Eric on Li : 1/21/2022 2:28 pm : link
the way the draft falls they should get a really good OL and probably a really good defensive player (likely in the middle level). 2 huge core needs.
I Love Dean  
Bernie : 1/21/2022 2:47 pm : link
But I think the Giants should stay put at 5 for the best tackle remaining and then look to move down from 7, accumulate another 1st for 2023 and then depending how far down they go, hope that Linderbaum, Dean or Lloyd fall to them.
RE: RE: build the foundation first  
Rory : 1/21/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15564911 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15564884 mphbullet36 said:


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they secure the QB later

this is a multi year rebuild



Franchise QBs don't sit around waiting to be picked until you are ready. It is the most important position on the field. If you have a shot at one you get him, period.

And if Schoen and whoever he hires for HC believe one of these guys is a franchise QB, I'll be thrilled to get them this year. Plenty of good, young QBs are having success behind crappy Olines.


give me the name of this 2022 franchise QB.
Interesting tweet from Matt Miller  
Rave7 : 1/21/2022 3:16 pm : link
who’s doing espn draft.
I guess Dean’s measurables are really concerning to NFL scouts.
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RE: RE: RE: build the foundation first  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2022 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15565155 Rory said:
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In comment 15564911 Mike from Ohio said:


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In comment 15564884 mphbullet36 said:


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they secure the QB later

this is a multi year rebuild



Franchise QBs don't sit around waiting to be picked until you are ready. It is the most important position on the field. If you have a shot at one you get him, period.

And if Schoen and whoever he hires for HC believe one of these guys is a franchise QB, I'll be thrilled to get them this year. Plenty of good, young QBs are having success behind crappy Olines.



give me the name of this 2022 franchise QB.


Did you not understand what I wrote?

I said if Schoen and the HC feel that way. The opinion you or I have on these QBs is uninformed at best.
RE: Interesting tweet from Matt Miller  
Angel Eyes : 1/21/2022 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15565225 Rave7 said:
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who’s doing espn draft.
I guess Dean’s measurables are really concerning to NFL scouts. Link - ( New Window )

What would be the best way to use Dean? My guess would be as a Derrick Brooks-esque WILL linebacker in a 4-3 defense, but that's just me.
RE: Jeremiah is the first to get it right with LB  
Section331 : 1/21/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15564783 Snablats said:
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He just chose the wrong one because Jeremiah is a west coast guy and Lloyd played in Pac 12. Giants need to take Dean and then trade down for the OL. Almost every mock has 10 OL in first 45 picks. Trade down and take one and then another with 36


I agree, I'd take Dean over Lloyd.
I said it before, Dean is small  
JonC : 1/21/2022 3:47 pm : link
his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.
As for  
JonC : 1/21/2022 3:47 pm : link
you strike when the right one presents, you don't "build the OL" first.
RE: I said it before, Dean is small  
Snablats : 1/21/2022 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15565310 JonC said:
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his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.

I like Harris, too. But Dean flat out makes plays all over the field. Lloyd was so invisible in his showcase Bowl game vs Ohio State. He has measurables but completely disappeared and played in a much lesser conference
RE: RE: I said it before, Dean is small  
JonC : 1/21/2022 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15565361 Snablats said:
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In comment 15565310 JonC said:


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his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.


I like Harris, too. But Dean flat out makes plays all over the field. Lloyd was so invisible in his showcase Bowl game vs Ohio State. He has measurables but completely disappeared and played in a much lesser conference


We all like Dean, but size and scheme fit matter, let's not just watch his UGA tape and assume he's a plug in fit here yet.
RE: RE: I said it before, Dean is small  
bw in dc : 1/21/2022 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15565361 Snablats said:
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In comment 15565310 JonC said:


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his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.


I like Harris, too. But Dean flat out makes plays all over the field. Lloyd was so invisible in his showcase Bowl game vs Ohio State. He has measurables but completely disappeared and played in a much lesser conference


Did you watch that Utah-Ohio State game?

I suffered through watching Crowder at the same position for 2 years  
Snablats : 1/21/2022 4:32 pm : link
make virtually no plays even though he has all the measureables. Obviously we dont yet know on 3-4 or 4-3, though I dont know how we can switch to a 4-3 with this roster. Dean fits no matter where you play him. So will Harris
I don't agree on Dean yet, size matters in the NFL  
JonC : 1/21/2022 4:38 pm : link
Harris will fit.
RE: I said it before, Dean is small  
Angel Eyes : 1/21/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15565310 JonC said:
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his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.

What do you mean by NYG-like? Given the amoeba defense extolled by Judge and Graham, I'm having a hard time with picturing what linebackers the Giants would have in mind.
multiple  
JonC : 1/21/2022 4:44 pm : link
and scheme diverse, does everything well, fits the size profile too.
RE: I suffered through watching Crowder at the same position for 2 years  
Angel Eyes : 1/21/2022 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15565412 Snablats said:
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make virtually no plays even though he has all the measureables. Obviously we dont yet know on 3-4 or 4-3, though I dont know how we can switch to a 4-3 with this roster. Dean fits no matter where you play him. So will Harris

The main challenges would be at the DEs since we have two DTs who work inside; Dexter Lawrence would be the "shade NT" and Leonard Williams the 3-tech. Placing a DT-sized person at a 4-3 DE spot (which a couple people on this forum have suggested) doesn't work well unless you have unreal bend like Reggie White; the Chiefs tried that this year with Chris Jones and that experiment seems to have gone awry because Jones shifted back inside by midseason and he was admittedly slow and confused.

I'm not quite sure if Azeez Ojulari would be able to hold up as a RDE since he tends to get washed out against the run.

So I'd sign a one-year flyer guy like Sheard, Houston, Clowney or Chandler Jones, get a good "crash" end in the early rounds like Hutchinson (if I can), Karlaftis, or Cameron Thomas to man the LDE spot, draft another good pass-rushing end as a project on the RDE to rotate in during later rounds, like Drake Jackson or Arnold Ebiketie.

For LBs, Martinez could most likely work as the primary MLB if his knee is okay, with Crowder as the primary backup. Having a SAM-linebacker to key tight ends would be real nice; could be Roche or a linebacker we draft. Would like to see more of Carter Coughlin on passing downs or as a possible WILL linebacker if Ojulari can't make the switch. Cam Brown is mostly on special teams
Forgot to mention this would be after a couple trades  
Angel Eyes : 1/21/2022 5:51 pm : link
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I’m also not opposed to the  
Carl in CT : 1/21/2022 5:52 pm : link
IOWa center. Starts in the middle fellas.
RE: RE: I said it before, Dean is small  
Rave7 : 1/21/2022 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15565361 Snablats said:
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In comment 15565310 JonC said:


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his listed hgt/wgt is probably a little inflated too. He's likely a 4-3 WILL in the NFL, rather than an 3-4 ILB.

Christian Harris is more NYG-like, Lloyd is very much a Bills-styled ILB too.


I like Harris, too. But Dean flat out makes plays all over the field. Lloyd was so invisible in his showcase Bowl game vs Ohio State. He has measurables but completely disappeared and played in a much lesser conference

Yeah I agree Lloyd was not impressive in the Rose bowl but it’s just 1 game and also I might be wrong but I felt he was playing not to get injured in the Rose bowl. I like speed of Dean and he’s younger prospect but his size does concern me. He may need big DL to uncover him like Jordan Davis. Lloyd, his bigger but his age concerns me which is unknown lol. Harris, he played great in the final but he was disappointing during the season,so I don’t know.
I hope Schoen finds good one so we can have a great defense.
RE: RE: build the foundation first  
paesan98 : 1/21/2022 5:59 pm : link
In comment 15564911 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15564884 mphbullet36 said:


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they secure the QB later

this is a multi year rebuild



Franchise QBs don't sit around waiting to be picked until you are ready. It is the most important position on the field. If you have a shot at one you get him, period.

And if Schoen and whoever he hires for HC believe one of these guys is a franchise QB, I'll be thrilled to get them this year. Plenty of good, young QBs are having success behind crappy Olines.


For months all we've heard are there are no franchise quarterbacks this year. The same thing happens every year. Teams that need a QB over-inflate the value of what's available as the draft gets closer because of their need. If these guys were not considered franchise QBs at the end of the college season, how can they be considered one now?
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