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Panther hiring Ben McAdoo as OC

shadow_spinner0 : 1/21/2022 1:53 pm
Per Ian Rapaport
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The #Panthers are expected to hire former #Giants HC and ex-#Packers OC Ben McAdoo as their offensive coordinator, sources say. They need to work out the contract, but there aren’t expected to be issues. McAdoo is back as an OC, where he initially rose to prominence.

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what will be interesting  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2022 1:55 pm : link
to see is if McAdoo, Shurmur, or Judge ever get a whiff of another HC job.

My guess is Judge is least likely. Those two weird press conferences probably sealed his fate along with the his new innovative QB sneak offense.
Hated him with the Giants  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/21/2022 1:55 pm : link
but glad he is getting a opportunity. Get that menu play card ready.
He's a good OC on the Giants  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/21/2022 1:55 pm : link
Giants scored the 6th most points in 2015, and Eli had 2 of his best statistical years when McAdoo was OC.
Immediate sticky  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2022 1:55 pm : link
to anyone who posts the first picture of him in the suit he wears to the press conference (assuming they have one for an OC).
Good for him  
Sean : 1/21/2022 1:56 pm : link
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there goes the  
hitdog42 : 1/21/2022 1:56 pm : link
SEE HE NEVER GOT ANOTHER RELEVANT POSITION IN THE NFL.... discussion.

Lol  
GNewGiants : 1/21/2022 1:56 pm : link
Oops.
Doubt Shurmur  
Fat Wally : 1/21/2022 1:56 pm : link
ever becomes a HC again. He's failed both times and never really had success in the first place. Most of the coaches that get second/third gigs usually have had success at some point.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/21/2022 1:57 pm : link
Best of luck to him.
Do they now sign  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2022 1:57 pm : link
Geno Smith?

If so, watch your back Sam Darnold & Cam Newton.
Good for Mac...  
bw in dc : 1/21/2022 1:57 pm : link
now Carolina needs to find a QB because Darnold is worse than Jones.
RE: there goes the  
GNewGiants : 1/21/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15564939 hitdog42 said:
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SEE HE NEVER GOT ANOTHER RELEVANT POSITION IN THE NFL.... discussion.


Happy for your dad. He was still awful.
I'm going to go out on a limb  
Dnew15 : 1/21/2022 1:58 pm : link
and say they're going to run a lot of 11 personnel next year :)
RE: I'm going to go out on a limb  
GNewGiants : 1/21/2022 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15564953 Dnew15 said:
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and say they're going to run a lot of 11 personnel next year :)


Or purposely run a horrific offense so the defense can carry them… lol.
Good  
AcidTest : 1/21/2022 2:00 pm : link
for him.
 
christian : 1/21/2022 2:01 pm : link
Good for him. He’s a good assistant, perfect fit for him.
...  
V.I.G. : 1/21/2022 2:03 pm : link
RE: what will be interesting  
Bergen346 : 1/21/2022 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15564928 Eric from BBI said:
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to see is if McAdoo, Shurmur, or Judge ever get a whiff of another HC job.

My guess is Judge is least likely. Those two weird press conferences probably sealed his fate along with the his new innovative QB sneak offense.


Couldn't disagree with you more. I think Judge will be a good coach one day.
RE: RE: I'm going to go out on a limb  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/21/2022 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15564957 GNewGiants said:
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In comment 15564953 Dnew15 said:


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and say they're going to run a lot of 11 personnel next year :)



Or purposely run a horrific offense so the defense can carry them… lol.

Giants offense was good when he was OC
RE: what will be interesting  
Aaroninma : 1/21/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15564928 Eric from BBI said:
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to see is if McAdoo, Shurmur, or Judge ever get a whiff of another HC job.

My guess is Judge is least likely. Those two weird press conferences probably sealed his fate along with the his new innovative QB sneak offense.


Neither of them will, but i actually feel opposite. Judge is young enough and still has the backing of BB/Saban/etc which still means something, particularly to desperate franchises, so I think he would be the MOST likely.

Shurmur/Mac were always destined to be coordinators.
RE: ...  
Ben in Tampa : 1/21/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15564973 V.I.G. said:
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This was the good Ben McAdoo.

Slicked hair, sunglasses McAdoo was the downfall.
RE: He's a good OC on the Giants  
Toth029 : 1/21/2022 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15564935 shadow_spinner0 said:
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Giants scored the 6th most points in 2015, and Eli had 2 of his best statistical years when McAdoo was OC.



Coughlin reined him in just right. He was abysmal in 2016 and 2017.
RE: what will be interesting  
kdog77 : 1/21/2022 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15564928 Eric from BBI said:
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to see is if McAdoo, Shurmur, or Judge ever get a whiff of another HC job.

My guess is Judge is least likely. Those two weird press conferences probably sealed his fate along with the his new innovative QB sneak offense.


McAdoo has been out of the Giants for long enough that people may forget how bad 2017 turned out. He can still claim that his offense put up points with Eli and OBJ when he was OC. Just not as HC.

Judge needs to find a HC job in college ranks and take time to learn how to be a HC without Bellicheck or Saban standing over his shoulder. He was not ready for Giants job and should have gone to Miss St.
......  
Route 9 : 1/21/2022 2:06 pm : link
Good for him
He deserves another shot  
ZogZerg : 1/21/2022 2:07 pm : link
as an OC. He did pretty well.
Bergen346  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2022 2:07 pm : link
I'd be surprised if he gets another HC interview in the NFL. College more likely. I could see him going back to NE as a position coach, maybe coordinator.

His final season crash was epic. Handley wasn't that bad.
The Mac is back  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 2:07 pm : link
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Good for him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
The only QBs with more TD passes than Eli in McAdoo’s 2 seasons as OC were Brady and Rodgers.

Nothing remotely resembling Eli or Odell there, but let’s see if it works.
Came to say I liked McAdoo as an OC but good God that pic  
j_rud : 1/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
Its like the Make A Wish Foundation started working with adults.
No one can save Sam Darnold  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: I'm going to go out on a limb  
GNewGiants : 1/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15564981 shadow_spinner0 said:
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In comment 15564957 GNewGiants said:


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and say they're going to run a lot of 11 personnel next year :)



Or purposely run a horrific offense so the defense can carry them… lol.


Giants offense was good when he was OC


And coughlin was control of the offense.
A second  
Les in TO : 1/21/2022 2:09 pm : link
Chance. Let’s see what he does with it.
Mara's gotta love this  
ghost718 : 1/21/2022 2:09 pm : link
Maybe Rhule is thinking Post Carolina at this point
McAdoo was a disaster  
rocco8112 : 1/21/2022 2:11 pm : link
The playoff year riding the coatrails of the previous proven coach's rebuild combined with a massive mercenary investment in the defense, only made it worse when the bottom fell out the next year. We have seen some shit teams for a long time now, but 2017 was the worst. Complete given up a collapse. He was given a job he should not have been given He was annoited TC's successor like he was a proven genius that would right the wrongs.of the previous two time Super Bowl champ head coach. This was the first disastrous move that has led us to today.

What would make a team thing he is the answer at OC is beyond me.

That said I wish him the best.
RE: Good for him.  
rocco8112 : 1/21/2022 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15565000 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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The only QBs with more TD passes than Eli in McAdoo’s 2 seasons as OC were Brady and Rodgers.

Nothing remotely resembling Eli or Odell there, but let’s see if it works.


How did the offense look when he was the head man? Guess we will see, I wish him well, but it boggles the mind a team would look to him a the answer.
Put me in the camp  
Boatie Warrant : 1/21/2022 2:13 pm : link
That Judge gets a HC gig again before Schurmer and McAdoo. It will be a college HC gig but so what 😉
Could be a short stay....  
MOOPS : 1/21/2022 2:14 pm : link
if Rhule doesn't start producing. There was a report Rhule had reached out to Chip Kelly. Guess nothing came of that.
In the interim, time to bring that old Sy Syms suit out of mothballs Ben. Good luck.
Shurmer  
Boatie Warrant : 1/21/2022 2:15 pm : link
See, I can't even remember his name right
A horrible OC too  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/21/2022 2:15 pm : link
with his friggin' footwork that magically made Aaron Rogers a good QB. I look forward to him messing up Darnold in the head even more.
RE: RE: Good for him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2022 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15565016 rocco8112 said:
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In comment 15565000 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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The only QBs with more TD passes than Eli in McAdoo’s 2 seasons as OC were Brady and Rodgers.

Nothing remotely resembling Eli or Odell there, but let’s see if it works.



How did the offense look when he was the head man? Guess we will see, I wish him well, but it boggles the mind a team would look to him a the answer.


How did the offense look the year before McAdoo took over from Gilbride? Eli was throwing interceptions left and right.
He  
Toth029 : 1/21/2022 2:16 pm : link
Was only a good OC under Tom.

People forget he used 11 personnel 92% of the goddamn time?
RE: RE: RE: Good for him.  
Toth029 : 1/21/2022 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15565028 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 15565000 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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The only QBs with more TD passes than Eli in McAdoo’s 2 seasons as OC were Brady and Rodgers.

Nothing remotely resembling Eli or Odell there, but let’s see if it works.



How did the offense look when he was the head man? Guess we will see, I wish him well, but it boggles the mind a team would look to him a the answer.



How did the offense look the year before McAdoo took over from Gilbride? Eli was throwing interceptions left and right.

Different system and at least he had Odell. Gilbride had a downfield attack and Eli's receivers stunk sans Cruz. With a bad line and that situation, it was bound to occur. Blame Reese and the scouting department for whiffing on building a decent line.
RE: RE: RE: Good for him.  
hitdog42 : 1/21/2022 2:19 pm : link
In comment 15565028 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 15565000 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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The only QBs with more TD passes than Eli in McAdoo’s 2 seasons as OC were Brady and Rodgers.

Nothing remotely resembling Eli or Odell there, but let’s see if it works.



How did the offense look when he was the head man? Guess we will see, I wish him well, but it boggles the mind a team would look to him a the answer.



How did the offense look the year before McAdoo took over from Gilbride? Eli was throwing interceptions left and right.


shhhhhhh there are excuses for 13. it was toms in 14/15. 16 was a Free agency fluke where spags carried him. only 2017 is his... and because of that he is terrible and NOBODY WILL EVER HIRE HIM AGAIN
RE: there goes the  
D-Rod : 1/21/2022 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15564939 hitdog42 said:
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SEE HE NEVER GOT ANOTHER RELEVANT POSITION IN THE NFL.... discussion.


Took a long time though. 4 years before someone put him in a coordinator position.
His  
Toth029 : 1/21/2022 2:21 pm : link
Offense stunk ass in 2016.

We crediting Ben for the defense going lights out? Brilliant.
RE: ...  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/21/2022 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15564973 V.I.G. said:
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Worst bar mitzvah photo ever!
I recall his comments after he got fired  
mfsd : 1/21/2022 2:24 pm : link
were pretty self reflective. I’m sure he learned some lessons, and may well get another HC shot one day

He said something about how he was so focused on scheming to get Odell the ball he realized he fell short in areas like relating to the players
RE: Bergen346  
Chris in Philly : 1/21/2022 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15564998 Eric from BBI said:
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I'd be surprised if he gets another HC interview in the NFL. College more likely. I could see him going back to NE as a position coach, maybe coordinator.

His final season crash was epic. Handley wasn't that bad.


Your whole “Judge is worse than Handley” routine is getting silly. You are old enough to remember the players that were still on that team, and the team that reeves took to the playoffs the year after he left.
Guy became a weird symbol for Coughlin haters  
widmerseyebrow : 1/21/2022 2:28 pm : link
Happy he's getting a second shot, but man his firing should have been the final nail in the coffin of the scheme/coaching vs. front office debate. We bought in to the generic west coast offense BS and the front office breathed a sigh of relief when Beckham temporarily erased all doubts about the roster on the offensive side of the ball. Eli got a couple seasons of inflated completion percentages and the team had little else to show for it even with the 2016 spending spree.

Instead we followed up by hiring Gettleman and another stat inflating loser in Shurmur.
RE: RE: Bergen346  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2022 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15565062 Chris in Philly said:
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Your whole “Judge is worse than Handley” routine is getting silly. You are old enough to remember the players that were still on that team, and the team that reeves took to the playoffs the year after he left.


I’m glad someone else said this. I’m tired of doing so at this point.
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