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Latest Odds on next NYG Head Coach (post-Schoen)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2022 1:58 pm
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Odds on next head coach of the Giants after the Schoen announcement via @oddschecker:

Daboll +110
Flores +400
Frazier +600
Pederson +700
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ryanmkeane : 1/21/2022 2:00 pm : link
some folks here probably don't want Frazier. i actually think he'd be a better choice than Daboll.

But I want Flores.
I'm also interested to see  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/21/2022 2:01 pm : link
what hires are going to take place in the FO
Seems like the exact 4 guys we’d want to talk to  
Metnut : 1/21/2022 2:01 pm : link
I’d be fine with any of them. Would most prefer Pederson (due to winning a super bowl without a stud QB).
Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2022 2:03 pm : link
He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call?
Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I don’t care if it’s an offensive or defensive coach  
eli4life : 1/21/2022 2:03 pm : link
Just hire the right damn one for a change
RE: ...  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15564964 ryanmkeane said:
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some folks here probably don't want Frazier. i actually think he'd be a better choice than Daboll.

But I want Flores.


I wouldn’t mind Frazier. Experienced, mature leadership at the helm.and then bring in younger, more innovative coordinators
RE: Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
CV36 : 1/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15564972 5BowlsSoon said:
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He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )


+1
What happened to the "Josh McDaniels movement"?  
ZogZerg : 1/21/2022 2:12 pm : link
Vegas new something yesterday?

LOL
knew  
ZogZerg : 1/21/2022 2:12 pm : link
..
No to Frazier  
Producer : 1/21/2022 2:14 pm : link
We don't need a failed Vikings retread. Who happens to be D-oriented.

Offense is the name of the game in 2022.
RE: Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
Dr. D : 1/21/2022 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15564972 5BowlsSoon said:
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He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )

I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
A rookie GM  
thedogfather : 1/21/2022 2:17 pm : link
and a rookie HC to fix THIS specific team and mess? I don't think that's the way to go. Of course there isn't a 'can't miss HC' out there with a proven winning track record but from the options, I think Flores checks the most boxes.
we should feel fortunate there are a lot of quality candidates avail  
Eric on Li : 1/21/2022 2:22 pm : link
that doesn't guarantee success but I can't remember a recent year where there were so many interesting candidates with winning seasons as head coaches available. Flores has had a winning record each of the last 2 years, Pederson and Quinn each took teams to SBs, Harbough did too and his career winning% is .670.

If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.

just need to hope he chooses one of them.
A Coach With Same Vision, Philosophy, Approach  
clatterbuck : 1/21/2022 2:25 pm : link
as the GM...who that is I do not know. Conventional wisdom right now says it's Daboll. Maybe it's Frazier, maybe one of the other guys out there, maybe it's someone who hasn't come up yet. Fwiw, I kind of hope Flores fits the profile, mainly because he grew up a Giants fan in my old Brownsville neighborhood. And I think Todd Bowles, another local guy (Elizabeth, NJ) is an interesting candidate who got a raw deal with the Jets. I think a key is a coach who knows what kind of team he wants, how he wants to play the game, and a GM who is in sync and will get him the right players to project that identity onto the field and win games.
RE: What happened to the  
Jim in Tampa : 1/21/2022 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15565014 ZogZerg said:
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Vegas new something yesterday?

LOL

Someone pointed out that the "odds" for McDaniel was nothing new and they hadn't actually changed since before the GM interview process started. It was "old news" posted as a new tweet.
Does Harbaugh really have a history of choking in big games?  
Dr. D : 1/21/2022 2:40 pm : link
(as the linked article above states). Was losing to the Ravens 34-31 in the SB with Colin freaking Kaepernick as QB, really choking?

Was losing in OT to the Giants in the NFC conf championship in a grueling ridiculously hard fought game (bc a punt returner fumbled), choking?

I don't really follow college, but based on big games in the NFL, I don't see him as a choker. I see him as a HC who may have gotten his team further than their talent might have justified and they came up short.

That's exactly the type of "retread" I want. Someone who got close, but has the desire and work ethic to try again to go all the way (very much unlike a McCarthey type retread). My guess is Jim doesn't like that his bro has a SB trophy and he doesn't.
If you score you may win,.but if they don’t score you will never lose.  
Spider56 : 1/21/2022 2:41 pm : link
It’s a fact yesterday, today and tomorrow. Flores, Frazier or Quinn. All may have warts, but all are experienced and deserve another shot. Just do it.
RE: RE: Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
Svengali : 1/21/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15565035 Dr. D said:
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In comment 15564972 5BowlsSoon said:


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He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )


I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.


Same here. Would love that hire.
RE: RE: Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
bradshaw44 : 1/21/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15565035 Dr. D said:
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In comment 15564972 5BowlsSoon said:


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He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )


I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.


I hated Harbaugh when he was with the 9ers. One was because he seemed like a dick. But the other was because he was a damn good coach. I'll sacrifice the former for the latter. Sign me up.
Hire the HC who can build the best staff  
arniefez : 1/21/2022 2:48 pm : link
and clean out the names we know need to be cleaned out off the field.
I want an offensive wizard who knows how to manage the game & clock  
GiantBlue : 1/21/2022 2:50 pm : link
Then an OC that compliments that style.

On the defensive side, I would be happy if Graham stuck around and was the QB of the D.

I am probably dreaming......but we need to fix the damm offense!
Nothing on Quinn?  
Simms11 : 1/21/2022 2:59 pm : link
I thought they asked to have him interview?
RE: Nothing on Quinn?  
CMc in 342 : 1/21/2022 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15565180 Simms11 said:
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I thought they asked to have him interview?
Tom or Dan ?
hope its flores,  
japanhead : 1/21/2022 3:14 pm : link
i dont want another first-time coach. what flores did in miami with that roster was impressive. the tua stuff seemed weird though. i think daboll has gotten fat (figuratively) off of josh allen being a stud. unless you credit him with allen's development.
RE: ...  
Joey in VA : 1/21/2022 3:14 pm : link
In comment 15564964 ryanmkeane said:
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some folks here probably don't want Frazier. i actually think he'd be a better choice than Daboll.

But I want Flores.
Frazier is about the worst choice out there, what from his disastrous stint as a HC makes you suddenly think he's a quality choice? Is it the 21-32 record? The ripe old age of 62? It feels like you take the worst stance on purpose just to be argued with. You are a human walking "kick me" sign.
Joey in VA  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2022 3:21 pm : link
Frazier would reek of Mara wanting some "veteran" coach to bring some stability.

But as you point out, aside from his unimpressive track record as lead dog, he's in his 60s and this is a rebuilding team.

Doesn't make sense.
I hope it's Daboll  
montanagiant : 1/21/2022 3:23 pm : link
Really believe we need an HC with an Offensive Coordinator background.
Not a big supporter of hiring Harbaugh  
montanagiant : 1/21/2022 3:32 pm : link
Wasn't the issue in SF was that after 3 years he seemed to be wearing out his welcome? Also, wasn't there was an issue with him and the GM over control of the team? As far as losing big games he's 2-6 in Bowl Games and 1-2 in NFC Championship games
RE: Joey in VA  
JohnG in Albany : 1/21/2022 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15565241 Eric from BBI said:
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Frazier would reek of Mara wanting some "veteran" coach to bring some stability.

But as you point out, aside from his unimpressive track record as lead dog, he's in his 60s and this is a rebuilding team.

Doesn't make sense.



Exactly.

Frazier had a weird stretch in Minnesota  
larryflower37 : 1/21/2022 4:04 pm : link
He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
RE: Nothing on Quinn?  
Beer Man : 1/21/2022 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15565180 Simms11 said:
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I thought they asked to have him interview?
My thought as well. Not having inside information, it seems kinda of strange that they requested an interview with Quinn before hiring the GM. Maybe each of the finalist had Quinn on their list of potential HCs.
Harbaugh  
WillVAB : 1/21/2022 4:07 pm : link
Is the best option (if he is an option) and it’s not close. He’s exactly what the Giants need given the current state of the franchise.
Me ....I would like Quinn  
Crazed Dogs : 1/21/2022 4:17 pm : link
or Flores.... yup defensive minded coach...build the O-line and play Giants football
I really dont see it with Flores  
Mook80 : 1/21/2022 4:21 pm : link
There are many red flags.
RE: Harbaugh  
Brown Recluse : 1/21/2022 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15565350 WillVAB said:
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Is the best option (if he is an option) and it’s not close. He’s exactly what the Giants need given the current state of the franchise.


Its not close? lmao
Quinn had two winning seasons  
jeff57 : 1/21/2022 4:36 pm : link
With Matt Ryan in his peak years. I don’t know why some want him to be head coach.
RE: Me ....I would like Quinn  
Producer : 1/21/2022 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15565367 Crazed Dogs said:
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or Flores.... yup defensive minded coach...build the O-line and play Giants football


You guys are stuck in quicksand.

How about we play winning NFL football.

Get a great QB.
Establish the run...  
Crazed Dogs : 1/21/2022 4:57 pm : link
sets up the pass..... NFL football
Mook80  
arniefez : 1/21/2022 4:58 pm : link
What are the red flags with Flores? Too much staff turnover?
RE: we should feel fortunate there are a lot of quality candidates avail  
paesan98 : 1/21/2022 5:29 pm : link
In comment 15565051 Eric on Li said:
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that doesn't guarantee success but I can't remember a recent year where there were so many interesting candidates with winning seasons as head coaches available. Flores has had a winning record each of the last 2 years, Pederson and Quinn each took teams to SBs, Harbough did too and his career winning% is .670.

If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.

just need to hope he chooses one of them.


Jim Caldwell has a decent career record 64-54 overall, 62-50 in the regular season. He only had 2 losing seasons- the year Indy lost Peyton to injury, anda 7-9 season in Detroit.
...  
Peppers : 1/21/2022 5:33 pm : link
What are the odds on Ken Dorsey..
No Patrick Graham. No Jim Harbaugh.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/21/2022 5:35 pm : link
Also, no Jason Garrett. Glad that weird rumor seems to have been debunked.

Noting that BBI finally seems to have given up on getting Bill Cowher.
RE: Harbaugh  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2022 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15565350 WillVAB said:
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Is the best option (if he is an option) and it’s not close. He’s exactly what the Giants need given the current state of the franchise.


Based on resumes, you are right….it’s not even close. I guess some people are seeing more into this than a resume and results.
RE: Jim Harbaugh anyone?  
FStubbs : 1/21/2022 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15564972 5BowlsSoon said:
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He seems interested…

49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.

He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )


I think Harbaugh wouldn't be interested anymore. If he's coming back, it's as a HC/GM I think - or at least a situation where the GM reports to him.
RE: Frazier had a weird stretch in Minnesota  
FStubbs : 1/21/2022 5:48 pm : link
In comment 15565347 larryflower37 said:
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He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.


So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).
Harbaugh is gonna want final say on the roster...  
Milton : 1/21/2022 5:56 pm : link
Schoen isn't gonna agree to that. Neither is Mara.
Let Harbaugh go to the Cowboys  
Milton : 1/21/2022 5:59 pm : link
In two or three years he'll be back coaching college. Which is another reason the Giants should steer clear. Wherever he lands, Harbaugh's return to the NFL won't last long.
RE: Establish the run...  
Producer : 1/21/2022 6:08 pm : link
In comment 15565477 Crazed Dogs said:
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sets up the pass..... NFL football


circa 1986
RE: RE: Frazier had a weird stretch in Minnesota  
Producer : 1/21/2022 6:11 pm : link
In comment 15565580 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15565347 larryflower37 said:


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He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.



So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).


Caretaker, what?

What is wrong with sone of you guys?

How about we try to win games, build a champion and build a dynasty, starting now.
RE: I don’t care if it’s an offensive or defensive coach  
Gman11 : 1/21/2022 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15564974 eli4life said:
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Just hire the right damn one for a change


I'm probably one of the very few that read the stories and my reaction is just, "OK that's done. Next order of business."

After the last 10 years I don't get excited with who they hire as GM or coach or who they draft or sign as a free agent.

All I want to see is a team that wins more than it loses.
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