49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
and a rookie HC to fix THIS specific team and mess? I don't think that's the way to go. Of course there isn't a 'can't miss HC' out there with a proven winning track record but from the options, I think Flores checks the most boxes.
we should feel fortunate there are a lot of quality candidates avail
that doesn't guarantee success but I can't remember a recent year where there were so many interesting candidates with winning seasons as head coaches available. Flores has had a winning record each of the last 2 years, Pederson and Quinn each took teams to SBs, Harbough did too and his career winning% is .670.
If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.
as the GM...who that is I do not know. Conventional wisdom right now says it's Daboll. Maybe it's Frazier, maybe one of the other guys out there, maybe it's someone who hasn't come up yet. Fwiw, I kind of hope Flores fits the profile, mainly because he grew up a Giants fan in my old Brownsville neighborhood. And I think Todd Bowles, another local guy (Elizabeth, NJ) is an interesting candidate who got a raw deal with the Jets. I think a key is a coach who knows what kind of team he wants, how he wants to play the game, and a GM who is in sync and will get him the right players to project that identity onto the field and win games.
Someone pointed out that the "odds" for McDaniel was nothing new and they hadn't actually changed since before the GM interview process started. It was "old news" posted as a new tweet.
Does Harbaugh really have a history of choking in big games?
(as the linked article above states). Was losing to the Ravens 34-31 in the SB with Colin freaking Kaepernick as QB, really choking?
Was losing in OT to the Giants in the NFC conf championship in a grueling ridiculously hard fought game (bc a punt returner fumbled), choking?
I don't really follow college, but based on big games in the NFL, I don't see him as a choker. I see him as a HC who may have gotten his team further than their talent might have justified and they came up short.
That's exactly the type of "retread" I want. Someone who got close, but has the desire and work ethic to try again to go all the way (very much unlike a McCarthey type retread). My guess is Jim doesn't like that his bro has a SB trophy and he doesn't.
If you score you may win,.but if they don’t score you will never lose.
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
I hated Harbaugh when he was with the 9ers. One was because he seemed like a dick. But the other was because he was a damn good coach. I'll sacrifice the former for the latter. Sign me up.
i dont want another first-time coach. what flores did in miami with that roster was impressive. the tua stuff seemed weird though. i think daboll has gotten fat (figuratively) off of josh allen being a stud. unless you credit him with allen's development.
some folks here probably don't want Frazier. i actually think he'd be a better choice than Daboll.
But I want Flores.
Frazier is about the worst choice out there, what from his disastrous stint as a HC makes you suddenly think he's a quality choice? Is it the 21-32 record? The ripe old age of 62? It feels like you take the worst stance on purpose just to be argued with. You are a human walking "kick me" sign.
Wasn't the issue in SF was that after 3 years he seemed to be wearing out his welcome? Also, wasn't there was an issue with him and the GM over control of the team? As far as losing big games he's 2-6 in Bowl Games and 1-2 in NFC Championship games
My thought as well. Not having inside information, it seems kinda of strange that they requested an interview with Quinn before hiring the GM. Maybe each of the finalist had Quinn on their list of potential HCs.
that doesn't guarantee success but I can't remember a recent year where there were so many interesting candidates with winning seasons as head coaches available. Flores has had a winning record each of the last 2 years, Pederson and Quinn each took teams to SBs, Harbough did too and his career winning% is .670.
If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.
just need to hope he chooses one of them.
Jim Caldwell has a decent career record 64-54 overall, 62-50 in the regular season. He only had 2 losing seasons- the year Indy lost Peyton to injury, anda 7-9 season in Detroit.
He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).
In two or three years he'll be back coaching college. Which is another reason the Giants should steer clear. Wherever he lands, Harbaugh's return to the NFL won't last long.
He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).
Caretaker, what?
What is wrong with sone of you guys?
How about we try to win games, build a champion and build a dynasty, starting now.
RE: I don’t care if it’s an offensive or defensive coach
But I want Flores.
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call?
Harbaugh - ( New Window )
But I want Flores.
I wouldn’t mind Frazier. Experienced, mature leadership at the helm.and then bring in younger, more innovative coordinators
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
+1
LOL
Offense is the name of the game in 2022.
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.
just need to hope he chooses one of them.
LOL
Someone pointed out that the "odds" for McDaniel was nothing new and they hadn't actually changed since before the GM interview process started. It was "old news" posted as a new tweet.
Was losing in OT to the Giants in the NFC conf championship in a grueling ridiculously hard fought game (bc a punt returner fumbled), choking?
I don't really follow college, but based on big games in the NFL, I don't see him as a choker. I see him as a HC who may have gotten his team further than their talent might have justified and they came up short.
That's exactly the type of "retread" I want. Someone who got close, but has the desire and work ethic to try again to go all the way (very much unlike a McCarthey type retread). My guess is Jim doesn't like that his bro has a SB trophy and he doesn't.
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He seems interested…
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
Same here. Would love that hire.
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He seems interested…
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I agree. Not crazy about another first time HC and Harbaugh is the kind of "retread" that is a winner, with few if any red flags, other than he might be an A-hole.
I hated Harbaugh when he was with the 9ers. One was because he seemed like a dick. But the other was because he was a damn good coach. I'll sacrifice the former for the latter. Sign me up.
On the defensive side, I would be happy if Graham stuck around and was the QB of the D.
I am probably dreaming......but we need to fix the damm offense!
But I want Flores.
But as you point out, aside from his unimpressive track record as lead dog, he's in his 60s and this is a rebuilding team.
Doesn't make sense.
But as you point out, aside from his unimpressive track record as lead dog, he's in his 60s and this is a rebuilding team.
Doesn't make sense.
Exactly.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
Its not close? lmao
You guys are stuck in quicksand.
How about we play winning NFL football.
Get a great QB.
If Schoen does do an expansive search odds are he will speak to multiple people who go on to be successful NFL HC's - which was not the case in the last few times the job was open here.
just need to hope he chooses one of them.
Jim Caldwell has a decent career record 64-54 overall, 62-50 in the regular season. He only had 2 losing seasons- the year Indy lost Peyton to injury, anda 7-9 season in Detroit.
Noting that BBI finally seems to have given up on getting Bill Cowher.
Based on resumes, you are right….it’s not even close. I guess some people are seeing more into this than a resume and results.
49-22 NFL coaching record. 3 of his 4 years he made the playoffs. Lost in Super Bowl to his brother 34-31. Lost to Giants in the NFC Championship.
He is a winner in both college and pros. Best resume out there, bar none. If he is interested , why not give him a call? Harbaugh - ( New Window )
I think Harbaugh wouldn't be interested anymore. If he's coming back, it's as a HC/GM I think - or at least a situation where the GM reports to him.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).
circa 1986
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He turn a 3-13 team to 10-6 playoff team to a 5-11 team and fired.
Not sure he got a real shot but with that said he would probably be my last choice.
So, it depends. One argument for Frazier is he'd be a good choice if you want a "caretaker" coach to guide the ship the next 3 years while we take a wrecking ball to the roster. Then he retires at 65 and we get the guy (TM).
Caretaker, what?
What is wrong with sone of you guys?
How about we try to win games, build a champion and build a dynasty, starting now.
I'm probably one of the very few that read the stories and my reaction is just, "OK that's done. Next order of business."
After the last 10 years I don't get excited with who they hire as GM or coach or who they draft or sign as a free agent.
All I want to see is a team that wins more than it loses.