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Think about this for Harbaugh

Essex : 1/21/2022 2:18 pm
He literally went to three straight NFC Title games with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick as his QBs. The first one he lost in OT, the second one he won, and the third one he lost in the end zone on the final play. The Super Bowl he also lost on the final play. In other words, this guy was a tough freakin out and his teams played until the bitter end at the highest levels.

Moreover, he won at SD State, he won at Stanford, he might not have done everything people envisioned at Michigan but he still took a team to the playoffs and won a Big Ten Title.

This guy is about as no brain a hire as you can have. A young and progressive GM with an experienced HC who is a winner can only make the turnaround a question of when and not if.

Please Joe Schoen, make the call!
Harbaugh (undeservedly) wants…  
Chris in Philly : 1/21/2022 2:20 pm : link
full control.
RE: Harbaugh (undeservedly) wants…  
MyNameIsMyName : 1/21/2022 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15565044 Chris in Philly said:
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full control.


Says who?
I agree Harbaugh is my fave....  
Johnny5 : 1/21/2022 2:27 pm : link
... however the full control thing if true disqualifies him. Also I'd be afraid he would leave 2-3 years in.
RE: I agree Harbaugh is my fave....  
Essex : 1/21/2022 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15565078 Johnny5 said:
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... however the full control thing if true disqualifies him. Also I'd be afraid he would leave 2-3 years in.


Make the call and let him tell you that.
RE: RE: I agree Harbaugh is my fave....  
clatterbuck : 1/21/2022 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15565091 Essex said:
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In comment 15565078 Johnny5 said:


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... however the full control thing if true disqualifies him. Also I'd be afraid he would leave 2-3 years in.



Make the call and let him tell you that.


He wouldn't say it. He'd just bitch and moan about not having it.
Guys who want complete control  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2022 2:40 pm : link
and get it somewhere (as Harbaugh has at Michigan) are never going to be satisfied to go somewhere else and not have it. You can be sure if he is winning he is going to want that back. This is human nature, not Harbaugh specific.
RE: Guys who want complete control  
JonC : 1/21/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15565128 Mike from Ohio said:
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and get it somewhere (as Harbaugh has at Michigan) are never going to be satisfied to go somewhere else and not have it. You can be sure if he is winning he is going to want that back. This is human nature, not Harbaugh specific.


Yup, and he's making much more money at UM than I'd wager NYG will spend on a HC. They spent much more on Judge than I expected, but I also think they lost their damned minds with hiring him on the whole.
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I am Ninja : 1/21/2022 2:50 pm : link
It is my opinion that Harbaugh is just being opportunistic coming off a CFP appearance. He has no intentions of going anywhere.
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Essex : 1/21/2022 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15565154 I am Ninja said:
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It is my opinion that Harbaugh is just being opportunistic coming off a CFP appearance. He has no intentions of going anywhere.


This is obviously a possibility, but the difference/gap between him and the rest of the potential candidates is so freaking big that you have to make that call. He is a great football coach (maybe a bad guy, maybe not a bad guy and just a quirky one who know, but investigate).
Yeah his QBs were weak  
Greg from LI : 1/21/2022 3:03 pm : link
But the rest of the roster was bursting with talent. It's not as if he was coaching some overachieving little engine that could.
What's the longest he's lasted anywhere?  
oghwga : 1/21/2022 3:06 pm : link
Until Michigan it was 3 years.

Do we want someone who's going to bail after a couple?
If he can bring a Prime  
Jimmycal : 1/21/2022 3:18 pm : link
Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, and Dante Whitner with him, then I am on board
If he rights the ship  
RollBlue : 1/21/2022 3:19 pm : link
and we beat the Cowboys and Eagles, make the playoffs 2 years in a row, he can bail. Should have a legit foundation in place for the next up and coming coach.....
RE: Yeah his QBs were weak  
Essex : 1/21/2022 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15565188 Greg from LI said:
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But the rest of the roster was bursting with talent. It's not as if he was coaching some overachieving little engine that could.


No coach is going to get to the NFC Title game three years in a row without a lot of talent, but the fact that he got there three years in a row speaks volume of his coaching ability, especially without a game changing QB to get there. I'm not saying the guy is a magician, but if you put him with a guy who can bring you in talent, you will win football games with this guy. And, we need to get out of this mess; he might be an ass, but he represents the best chance to get out of it. Plus, I want a coach that I can believe in again.
Essex  
Dr. D : 1/21/2022 4:37 pm : link
Good thread. The full control thing could be a deal killer, but I agree it's worth a call. Per the article linked on other thread, he has expressed interest. And he probably knows he wouldn't get full control.

Schoen might go with someone he has ties with and might not want to work with someone who has a reputation of being a difficult asshole. But i agree he's the best choice and should be interviewed if he's really interested. I would hate if he went to Dallas.
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