Art Stapleton
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One name I've heard mentioned as an OC possibility if Brian Flores were to land as head coach with Giants:
Bill O'Brien.
Not the only choice, obviously, and no guarantee that it would happen, but names are always fun.
And OC is absolutely a big part of Flores' candidacy imo.
Both of these guys have a long enough track record of their own to evaluate them on. The "coaching tree" is irrelevant.
That would likely mean we had a successful offense. I'll take it.
😂😂
Not exactly a resume I want for an OC to fix this offense.
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Forget about what anyones opinion is of O’Brien, the real issue is that he’s looking to be a HC again. So there’s a chance he’d be here for all of one season, if that. It’s just not sustainable to be changing OCs every season or two.
That would likely mean we had a successful offense. I'll take it.
Actually, I wouldn’t. I don’t want to go back, yet again, to the offensive drawing board
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In comment 15565266 BigBlueShock said:
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Forget about what anyones opinion is of O’Brien, the real issue is that he’s looking to be a HC again. So there’s a chance he’d be here for all of one season, if that. It’s just not sustainable to be changing OCs every season or two.
That would likely mean we had a successful offense. I'll take it.
Actually, I wouldn’t. I don’t want to go back, yet again, to the offensive drawing board
You have a position coach or "passing game coordinator" or some similar role that is basically the OC in waiting if O'Brien was to get a Head Coach job.
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Should we really be doubling down on the Patriots coaching tree?
My thought as well. Assembling BB guys without BB. Is that really a good idea?
As coordinators, it's fine. Some have success, some don't. No one things Bob is a bad OC. The issue anyone should have with it is he will leave at the first good job offer.
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In comment 15565281 Bogey said:
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In comment 15565266 BigBlueShock said:
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Forget about what anyones opinion is of O’Brien, the real issue is that he’s looking to be a HC again. So there’s a chance he’d be here for all of one season, if that. It’s just not sustainable to be changing OCs every season or two.
That would likely mean we had a successful offense. I'll take it.
Actually, I wouldn’t. I don’t want to go back, yet again, to the offensive drawing board
You have a position coach or "passing game coordinator" or some similar role that is basically the OC in waiting if O'Brien was to get a Head Coach job.
That’s much easier if the HC is an offensive guy and it’s his system. Flores is not an offensive guy so when the OC leaves, so does his offense. Just blindly relying on some random QB coach to be able to step in and run some else’s offense is a recipe for disaster
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In comment 15565281 Bogey said:
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In comment 15565266 BigBlueShock said:
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Forget about what anyones opinion is of O’Brien, the real issue is that he’s looking to be a HC again. So there’s a chance he’d be here for all of one season, if that. It’s just not sustainable to be changing OCs every season or two.
That would likely mean we had a successful offense. I'll take it.
Actually, I wouldn’t. I don’t want to go back, yet again, to the offensive drawing board
You have a position coach or "passing game coordinator" or some similar role that is basically the OC in waiting if O'Brien was to get a Head Coach job.
True, but not buying. History often shows us that ubderlings of a coordinator don’t always perform as well as their departing boss did..Will they make the same quick/smart decisions their predecessor did? Will the QB on the field be as in sync? Maybe, maybe not
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No Fuck You!
No Fuck You!
😂😂
I am kidding but how crushing would be scenario?
Exactly. Look how after last season BBI was concerned Graham might get offered a HC job.
Early test of “carte blanche”.
Brady and his teammates called O'Brien the "Tea Pot". He would just start to boil and boil with anger and then explode. It was pretty funny, and BO was a good sport about it.
His offense in Houston was to let Watson run for his life and improvise.
His offense in Houston was to let Watson run for his life and improvise.
O'Brien had a good record in Houston under some very difficult circumstances with the QB position. In basically six seasons (he was fired 4 games into 2020), he made the playoffs 4 out of those 6 seasons. And in his first year they were 9-7 and missed the playoffs.
O'Brien was 52-48 overall. He won games with the likes of Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, Osweiller, Weeden, etc.
I'm sort of neutral on this idea, but O'Brien can coach football.