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Eli Apple

Bramton1 : 1/22/2022 7:43 pm
With the Giants: Sucked. Landon Collins caps him a cancer. Traded for a fourth round pick in 2018 (later traded away on order to draft the immortal DeAndre Baker).

With the Bengals: Deflects a pass for a Cincinnati interception, play leads to a playoff game-winning field goal.

Figures.
He still sucks  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2022 7:44 pm : link
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He’s fucking terrible  
GNewGiants : 1/22/2022 7:49 pm : link
Mahomes and Allen are salivating.

Can we stop threads were a former giant made a tackle or a play for the other team. Jesus fucking Christ…
You should have started with  
cjac : 1/22/2022 7:51 pm : link
Drafted way too high because Reese panicked
He also had a bone-headed 15 yard taunting penalty.  
BigBlueNH : 1/22/2022 7:51 pm : link
More consistent with our Apple.
His taunting penalty after a big…  
Chris in Philly : 1/22/2022 7:52 pm : link
turnover that he has nothing to do with that ruined their field position is the most Eli Apple thing ever. He’s a loser.
RE: He still sucks  
Blackmax00 : 1/22/2022 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15567715 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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BJ Hill is a bengal too
 
christian : 1/22/2022 7:58 pm : link
Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.
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GNewGiants : 1/22/2022 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15567780 christian said:
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Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.


Bradberry reminds me of some of our defenders from 2017. Lot of business decisions and does it really fucking matter since we are so bad… haha
Except for the one pass which was thrown late  
Stan in LA : 1/22/2022 8:05 pm : link
Apple was rotten today if you were watching.
Apple is fine if he was a FA pickup  
chuckydee9 : 1/22/2022 8:18 pm : link
For 1.2M.. but when he is your early first round pick.. you can't be this bad..
you have to find a way to keep some of your average, disappointing  
markky : 1/22/2022 8:40 pm : link
players or you will always have more holes than you can fill. that was one of Gettleman's prime mistakes. in cleaning out the locker room he created more holes than he could ever fill, and we'll still be paying for that next year.
Apple sucked  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/22/2022 8:42 pm : link
Where we drafted him fireable offense
RE: His taunting penalty after a big…  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/22/2022 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15567750 Chris in Philly said:
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turnover that he has nothing to do with that ruined their field position is the most Eli Apple thing ever. He’s a loser.
my thoughts exactly someone should put a ball gag on Apple
Yeah, the guy is so good he hasn't stuck with what now, 3 other teams?  
PatersonPlank : 1/22/2022 9:04 pm : link
He'll likely get bounced from the Bengals too. He's average at best, plus a bonehead. Lots of guys can play as good as him
RE: Yeah, the guy is so good he hasn't stuck with what now, 3 other teams?  
AcidTest : 1/22/2022 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15567939 PatersonPlank said:
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He'll likely get bounced from the Bengals too. He's average at best, plus a bonehead. Lots of guys can play as good as him


^This.
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JoeyBigBlue : 1/22/2022 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15567780 christian said:
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Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.



Absolutely false
It’s that time of year.  
Giant John : 1/22/2022 9:52 pm : link
Eli Apple Really? Throw this thread on the trash pile with the tons of other garbage.
I wonder if his mom is still out there talkin shit  
j_rud : 1/22/2022 9:52 pm : link
Gun to my head I'm betting yes.
He's awful  
ZogZerg : 1/22/2022 10:13 pm : link
Just like this thread
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christian : 1/22/2022 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15568050 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.


Absolutely false


Bradberry: 115 Tgts | 61% comp | 848 YDS | 8 TDs | 93 rat
Apple: 78 Tgts | 60% comp | 602 | 3TDs | 87 rat

Markedly is too strong. Slightly is probably more accurate.
Oh please  
montanagiant : 1/22/2022 10:17 pm : link
The guy is regularly featured getting burned all season long
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JoeyBigBlue : 1/22/2022 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15568107 christian said:
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In comment 15567780 christian said:


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Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.


Absolutely false



Bradberry: 115 Tgts | 61% comp | 848 YDS | 8 TDs | 93 rat
Apple: 78 Tgts | 60% comp | 602 | 3TDs | 87 rat

Markedly is too strong. Slightly is probably more accurate.



How many No. 1 receivers is Eli Apple lining up against?
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outeiroj : 1/22/2022 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15568107 christian said:
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In comment 15567780 christian said:


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Apple has had an unimpressive career, but he played just fine this year.

He had a markedly better season than Bradberry.


Absolutely false



Bradberry: 115 Tgts | 61% comp | 848 YDS | 8 TDs | 93 rat
Apple: 78 Tgts | 60% comp | 602 | 3TDs | 87 rat

Markedly is too strong. Slightly is probably more accurate.



This is where simply looking at a stat sheet makes you look like a moron...

Bradberry followed every teams best receiver and often played in single coverage against them

Eli apple did not, covered inferior receivers and likely got help often. Watching a game and tape is much more relevant than looking at stats... he is no where near, nor will ever be in the same stratosphere as Bradberry
RE: Oh please  
christian : 1/22/2022 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15568113 montanagiant said:
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The guy is regularly featured getting burned all season long


Bradberry regularly was featured getting burned all season long.
Here you go.  
St. Jimmy : 1/22/2022 10:36 pm : link
Annie Apple says...
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RE: RE: RE: RE: …  
christian : 1/22/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15568136 outeiroj said:
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Bradberry followed every teams best receiver and often played in single coverage against them


The Giants played an extraordinary amount of zone coverage, with tons of help in coverage from their safeties. I’d love to see the data on single covers. I don’t think that’s true.

Is Bradberry a number one corner and drawing better assignments, yup.

Did he get beat like a bag this year, yup.

Bradberry gave up 8TDs. He sucked.
RE: Here you go.  
j_rud : 1/22/2022 11:01 pm : link
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Annie Apple says... Link - ( New Window )


KNEW it lol!
RE: RE: He still sucks  
islander1 : 1/23/2022 12:18 am : link
In comment 15567751 Blackmax00 said:
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BJ Hill is a bengal too


BJ Hill doesn't suck though.
Apple does.
RE: RE: Oh please  
montanagiant : 1/23/2022 12:24 am : link
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The guy is regularly featured getting burned all season long



Bradberry regularly was featured getting burned all season long.

LMAO if you honestly think Apple is considered at the same level of a player as Bradberry then this whole argument is laughable. You didn't even take into account how many #1 receivers Bradberry covered vs the number Apple covered
RE: His taunting penalty after a big…  
SomeFan : 1/23/2022 12:27 am : link
In comment 15567750 Chris in Philly said:
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turnover that he has nothing to do with that ruined their field position is the most Eli Apple thing ever. He’s a loser.
it was on brand
RE: you have to find a way to keep some of your average, disappointing  
monstercoo : 1/23/2022 2:45 am : link
In comment 15567884 markky said:
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players or you will always have more holes than you can fill. that was one of Gettleman's prime mistakes. in cleaning out the locker room he created more holes than he could ever fill, and we'll still be paying for that next year.


I totally agree, this sums up DG’s run here.
 
christian : 1/23/2022 9:21 am : link
In comment 15568549 montanagiant said:
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LMAO if you honestly think Apple is considered at the same level of a player as Bradberry then this whole argument is laughable. You didn't even take into account how many #1 receivers Bradberry covered vs the number Apple covered


Where did I say Apple is considered at the same level as Bradberry? I said Apple had a better season in 2021. All things equal I think that’s true.

Bradberry is on a 3/45M deal, Apple is a minimum salary player. If we want to talk levels and production let’s do it. Bradberry gave up the most TDs of any player in the league, and the 3rd most yards.

He’s the Giants no. 1 corner, so of course he draws better players. And then teams targeted the heck out him this year because he’s sucked.

He’s not Revis Island out there. He’s like a cheap all inclusive — everyone goes.

Bradberry was average in coverage and gave up a ton of TDs. The Giants help their corners a lot too. The incessant bitching about Graham’s soft some coverage through the year was as common as a morning shit. He’s not poor James Bradberry with no help. He gets a lot of help and still sucked.
Bradberry played too complacent this year and got burned  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2022 9:33 am : link
for it for a lot of TDs. I really think he thought he was covering his guy close enough and was surprised the ball kept coming his way.

Apple just stinks and it's almost shocking teams let him start. He must play better during some stretches because every time I watch him he looks like the same crappy CB that we drafted...
 
christian : 1/23/2022 9:45 am : link
You’re not missing anything with Apple. He’s a bottom tier starting CB.
Both things can be true  
eclipz928 : 1/23/2022 12:23 pm : link
That Apple was drafted too high and that he is a serviceable starting CB.

At the time and still in hindsight I thought that Gettleman was too aggressive in dispatching players in the name of cleaning up the "culture" issues with the Giants. Not enough stock was taken in how much being on an embarrassingly bad team affects the attitudes of some players.

I think you just gotta have the right coaches in place to be able to guide players like that (and to of course win some games).
 
christian : 1/23/2022 1:31 pm : link
Gettleman was so terrible. He purges the bad characters, yet keeps Jenkins and proclaims him the teacher of puppies. The same Jenkins who walked off the field during a game and was suspended for blowing off practice. The same Jenkins who of course then gets cut for being a knucklehead.

I didn’t mind trading Apple. But the character crusade was lame.
Gettleman was the biggest character there was in this franchise  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2022 1:42 pm : link
for the last four years.

I will indeed miss DG's pressers though and making fun of them afterwards. And then getting berated by his loyal BBI defenders...
RE: Both things can be true  
markky : 1/24/2022 8:41 am : link
In comment 15569094 eclipz928 said:
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That Apple was drafted too high and that he is a serviceable starting CB.

At the time and still in hindsight I thought that Gettleman was too aggressive in dispatching players in the name of cleaning up the "culture" issues with the Giants. Not enough stock was taken in how much being on an embarrassingly bad team affects the attitudes of some players.

I think you just gotta have the right coaches in place to be able to guide players like that (and to of course win some games).


Gettleman was absolutely too aggressive in jettisoning players. You have to hold your nose and hang on to some serviceable players to build a team, otherwise you create more holes than you can fill. Inevitably some of those holes are filled by much worse players AND you have no depth. That's a big part of how we ended up with the worst roster in the NFL. It will take a couple of years to dig out from under this.
Eli Apple is a bad corner...  
EricJ : 1/24/2022 8:42 am : link
he has horrible footwork and gets himself all twisted out of position which leads him to having to grab jerseys to keep from getting torched. You could see this on film before we drafted him....then again after he was playing in the NFL
Cincy beat Kansas City during regular season  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 8:52 am : link
but I didn't watch it. Wonder how well Eli Apple held up in that game if anybody knows?

I throw all day long at him next week if I am Mahomes...
RE: Cincy beat Kansas City during regular season  
EricJ : 1/24/2022 9:02 am : link
In comment 15571289 Jimmy Googs said:
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but I didn't watch it. Wonder how well Eli Apple held up in that game if anybody knows?


Every player in the league has the ability to have a good game. Even Eli Apple. What matters most is the total body of work over time.

When I saw Eli Apple's game film from Ohio State, I had that moment like from the movie "Trouble with the curve" when they had the kid in their facility and realized that he could not hit. The lower level of competition he had before getting to the big leagues masked the real issues. It was the same with Eli Apple from a football perspective.
RE: RE: Cincy beat Kansas City during regular season  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 9:07 am : link
In comment 15571318 EricJ said:
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but I didn't watch it. Wonder how well Eli Apple held up in that game if anybody knows?




Every player in the league has the ability to have a good game. Even Eli Apple. What matters most is the total body of work over time.

When I saw Eli Apple's game film from Ohio State, I had that moment like from the movie "Trouble with the curve" when they had the kid in their facility and realized that he could not hit. The lower level of competition he had before getting to the big leagues masked the real issues. It was the same with Eli Apple from a football perspective.


I agree. He had sloppy technique, suspect footwork and never knew where the ball was. Some athletic ability but it was somewhat awkward.

He often would play trail on a WR, never turn his head around or put his hands into the mix to break up the pass, often running into a WR when that guy slowed down.

And yet he continues to start...good for him actually
Lol  
GNewGiants : 1/30/2022 4:21 pm : link
Great half Eli Apple.
Eli Apple is a bad corner...  
George : 2/2/2022 10:44 am : link

EricJ : 1/24/2022 8:42 am : link : reply
he has horrible footwork and gets himself all twisted out of position which leads him to having to grab jerseys to keep from getting torched. You could see this on film before we drafted him....then again after he was playing in the NFL

+1
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