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Sean Payton not committing to Saints yet for 2022

Sean : 1/23/2022 7:19 am
I’d love Payton to coach here, unfortunately I think he eventually winds up in Dallas.
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This would be my  
SomeFan : 1/23/2022 7:24 am : link
number 1 choice as HC if available.
He’d better not  
mattlawson : 1/23/2022 7:36 am : link
Wind up in dallas
I would trade one of our first rounders...  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 7:39 am : link
for Payton. Without hesitation.
Maybe we could get  
Jersey Heel : 1/23/2022 7:42 am : link
Kevin James instead.
Yep, he has no QB  
Chris684 : 1/23/2022 7:45 am : link
This isn’t surprising at all.
This is exactly who Jerry Jones wants to coach Cowboys  
Rick in Dallas : 1/23/2022 7:46 am : link
I would hate for him to go to Dallas
Doesn't he want personnel control?  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 1/23/2022 7:48 am : link
He wouldn't get that here or Dallas right?
RE: This is exactly who Jerry Jones wants to coach Cowboys  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 7:52 am : link
In comment 15568670 Rick in Dallas said:
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I would hate for him to go to Dallas


Jerry loves him.
RE: I would trade one of our first rounders...  
Eli owns all : 1/23/2022 7:54 am : link
In comment 15568662 bw in dc said:
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for Payton. Without hesitation.


Wut?
Agree  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/23/2022 7:56 am : link
Jerry would want this. He is under contract so it would take big compensation. Over 25 years and counting since Dallas even played in a NFCCG has to kill him.
Will Schoen  
giantBCP : 1/23/2022 7:58 am : link
go with his crony regardless of the talent available? It will be concerning if he does.
RE: Will Schoen  
Sean : 1/23/2022 8:02 am : link
In comment 15568683 giantBCP said:
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go with his crony regardless of the talent available? It will be concerning if he does.

I think Payton would want to influence the GM. That’s why Dallas makes sense, him and Jerry are close.
RE: RE: I would trade one of our first rounders...  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 8:05 am : link
In comment 15568678 Eli owns all said:
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for Payton. Without hesitation.



Wut?


Guy is a Hall of Fame HC who is an offensive genius. And only 58. Of course you give up a pick for that...
Lombardi had this on his podcast  
trueblueinpw : 1/23/2022 8:07 am : link
The speculation at least. Thought that Jerah would woo him over to the Pokes where’s a mutual love fest.
Doesn’t NO get compensation for him  
Essex : 1/23/2022 8:11 am : link
He is under contract
The report is  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/23/2022 8:11 am : link
He would retire from coaching. Not leave the Saints for another team. Mike Garafolo said he has TV producers looking to get him in the studio.
Interesting that he has gone dark. Payton would be a good get  
NYGgolfer : 1/23/2022 8:13 am : link
but not through using a 1st round pick to solve for it.

Maybe a middle round pick this and next, or a 2023 second round pick at most.
I think he has one year left on his contract  
Ira : 1/23/2022 8:14 am : link
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Three years on his contract.  
PakistanPete : 1/23/2022 8:20 am : link
I doubt it would take a first to get him.
RE: I think he has one year left on his contract  
Beer Man : 1/23/2022 8:20 am : link
In comment 15568703 Ira said:
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He does. There have been recent articles discussing this, which speculate that the Saints would want a 1st rounder as compensation to let him go to another team.
Payton is very close to Parcells  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/23/2022 8:22 am : link
who also had to navigate a way out.
Speculative  
Sammo85 : 1/23/2022 8:33 am : link
But Payton might be a bit burned out by coaching grind after long tenure with Saints. Also had COVID twice.

Don't forget...  
Milton : 1/23/2022 8:45 am : link
The Giants were outplayed by the Saints this year but one because of Sean Payton's boneheaded coaching decisions. Just saying. And it was his pigheaded arrogance that lost the NFC Championship to the Bears in 2006 (refusing to accept that the weather conditions meant not throwing the ball as much as he'd like). Boneheaded and pigheaded are not good looks!
RE: Don't forget...  
SleepyOwl : 1/23/2022 8:51 am : link
In comment 15568736 Milton said:
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The Giants were outplayed by the Saints this year but one because of Sean Payton's boneheaded coaching decisions. Just saying. And it was his pigheaded arrogance that lost the NFC Championship to the Bears in 2006 (refusing to accept that the weather conditions meant not throwing the ball as much as he'd like). Boneheaded and pigheaded are not good looks!


How about big headed?
Sean Payton at Dallas would be a nightmare  
JohnB : 1/23/2022 8:57 am : link
the NFC East.
If Payton Wants Out of New Orleans  
Bernie : 1/23/2022 9:20 am : link
Then Jerry will dump McCarthy and trade his 1st round pick this yr in 2 seconds flat. Payton has roots in Dallas and would love to come back to this city.
We've heard this talk around Payton before  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/23/2022 9:35 am : link
Strong rumors that Payton wanted the Rams job a few years ago. If this is real, Jerruh would back up the truck.
RE: Maybe we could get  
eric2425ny : 1/23/2022 9:41 am : link
In comment 15568665 Jersey Heel said:
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Kevin James instead.


Lol, that’s such a terrible casting job. He looks nothing line Sean Payton in that movie.

Wait  
JINTin Adirondacks : 1/23/2022 10:33 am : link
Payton one Bowl with Brees all those years = genius and gets a pass but McCarthy is roasted for just his one Bowl with Rodgers? how's that work?
Get him in to interview whatever it takes...  
Festina Lente : 1/23/2022 10:36 am : link
I am not thrilled with the coaches linked so far
RE: The report is  
Hammer : 1/23/2022 10:39 am : link
In comment 15568700 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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He would retire from coaching. Not leave the Saints for another team. Mike Garafolo said he has TV producers looking to get him in the studio.


The life of a TV commentator is vastly superior to the life of an NFL head coach.

I would not be surprised if he takes the TV gig.
RE: Get him in to interview whatever it takes...  
Festina Lente : 1/23/2022 10:40 am : link
In comment 15568903 Festina Lente said:
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I am not thrilled with the coaches linked so far


And i can't buy chuckle at anyone who doesn't think a legendary HC isn't easily worth a 1st rounder. Some of you confuse me
RE: RE: Maybe we could get  
Matt M. : 1/23/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15568825 eric2425ny said:
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Kevin James instead.



Lol, that’s such a terrible casting job. He looks nothing line Sean Payton in that movie.
Who cares if he looks like him? The real travesty is they made a feel good movie about bounty-gate.
That said, I would like him here  
Matt M. : 1/23/2022 10:47 am : link
Him or Harbaugh would be my top choices. Harbaugh is actually available, though, and it appears we haven't even contacted him.
Turmoil and Turf Wars,  
clatterbuck : 1/23/2022 10:48 am : link
that's what I think Payton would bring. Look, we just hired a young, up-and-coming GM to build a modern front office-scouting-personnel operation. Let him get to work. Also, don't think Schoen wants to invite an ego-centric, potential source of head-butting over personnel into the process.
RE: Wait  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/23/2022 10:50 am : link
In comment 15568898 JINTin Adirondacks said:
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Payton one Bowl with Brees all those years = genius and gets a pass but McCarthy is roasted for just his one Bowl with Rodgers? how's that work?


Actually a pretty fair point.
RE: I would trade one of our first rounders...  
Beef Wellington : 1/23/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15568662 bw in dc said:
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for Payton. Without hesitation.



That man's nuts. Grab em!
What better be the Giants thought process  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/23/2022 11:25 am : link
sean payton shouldve been..  
nyfootballfan : 1/23/2022 12:58 pm : link
..brought in before any GM or HC candidates.
sean payton shouldve been..  
nyfootballfan : 1/23/2022 1:00 pm : link
..brought in before any GM or HC candidates as pres football ops.
best use of a R1.
sorry edit issues  
nyfootballfan : 1/23/2022 1:01 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/23/2022 1:03 pm : link
Him going to Dallas would be an absolute nightmare.
I hate that  
MtDizzle : 1/23/2022 1:07 pm : link
Instead of wanting the giants to pursue him people are worried about him going to Dallas.
RE: I hate that  
GiantGrit : 1/23/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15569169 MtDizzle said:
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Instead of wanting the giants to pursue him people are worried about him going to Dallas.


Payton is on the short list of coaches who will want their own GM or to have majority say on personnel decisions. If you want Payton we were better off hiring him and then letting him decide which GM works best. Thats not how the Giants operate.

As much as I like Schoen i would have done that. As I mentioned like 400 times here, the Saints had 4 quarterbacks play this year and he still pulled out a 9-8 record. Very impressive.
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Festina Lente : 1/23/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15569214 GiantGrit said:
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Instead of wanting the giants to pursue him people are worried about him going to Dallas.



Payton is on the short list of coaches who will want their own GM or to have majority say on personnel decisions. If you want Payton we were better off hiring him and then letting him decide which GM works best. Thats not how the Giants operate.

As much as I like Schoen i would have done that. As I mentioned like 400 times here, the Saints had 4 quarterbacks play this year and he still pulled out a 9-8 record. Very impressive.


Maybe he wasn't sure (and still isn't) what he's doing to do next.
Omfg any these Dallas rumors though. Would be a dagger to the heart.
RE: RE: I hate that  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15569214 GiantGrit said:
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Payton is on the short list of coaches who will want their own GM or to have majority say on personnel decisions. If you want Payton we were better off hiring him and then letting him decide which GM works best. Thats not how the Giants operate.

As much as I like Schoen i would have done that. As I mentioned like 400 times here, the Saints had 4 quarterbacks play this year and he still pulled out a 9-8 record. Very impressive.


Agreed on the work Payton did this year in NO. That is a tremendous coaching job.

You raise a very good point about what Payton might want in structure. He may want his GM versus the other way around.

Regardless, if this situation is even remotely possible, Mara/Schoen should make some calls. This guy is one of the five best HCs in the NFL.

And I really don't like Payton since the Bounty-Gate issue. He looked like a real jerk-off. But the guy can flat out coach and develop.

RE: Payton is very close to Parcells  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/23/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15568713 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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who also had to navigate a way out.


His wife calls him Little Bill (or something similar) because he took on a lot of the mannerisms of Parcells, as did Belichek.
BW  
GiantGrit : 1/23/2022 4:32 pm : link
Agreed on Payton, seems like a total douche. If he is available, he’s the best HC out there imo including Harbaugh. I’m tired of watching the Giants lose and look like a pee wee football offense, that would not happen under Payton.
If Schoen truly has the final say, we're not hiring Payton  
BlackLight : 1/23/2022 4:46 pm : link
The last thing Schoen wants is an 800lb gorilla HC who believes (perhaps justifiably) that he knows better than our new GM how to build a winning football team.
Bountygate and a drug problem…  
Chris in Philly : 1/23/2022 4:57 pm : link
Pass.
RE: Bountygate and a drug problem…  
adamg : 1/23/2022 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15569663 Chris in Philly said:
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Pass.


Agreed. He seems like a real scumbag.
RE: Bountygate and a drug problem…  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/23/2022 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15569663 Chris in Philly said:
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Pass.


Wasn't too different than Fassel with the ladies either.
Couldn’t root for Payton  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2022 6:25 pm : link
no interest, would actually turn me off if we hired him
Sean Payton isn't leaving New Orleans for a rebuild (NYG)  
dpinzow : 1/23/2022 6:39 pm : link
if he leaves he'll go for a situation where he can win a SB right away
As for the age thing, Payton is 58  
dpinzow : 1/23/2022 6:55 pm : link
that's not exactly young. Some coaches like Belichick might want to coach forever. Payton might want to enjoy an early retirement, say at 60. Being an NFL head coach is a taxing job and he's done it for 15 years
RE: Sean Payton isn't leaving New Orleans for a rebuild (NYG)  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15570032 dpinzow said:
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if he leaves he'll go for a situation where he can win a SB right away


That's probably spot on.

But I would still make the call.
Didnt anyone learn from the same comments  
USAF NYG Fan : 1/23/2022 7:39 pm : link
about the GM job?

Do ya'll just take the easy jobs?

I don't want anyone that wouldnt come here because it's too big a challenge anyway. I want the person who knows they can turn it around. Turn this team around and win a SB, your name gets etched into stone.
RE: This would be my  
GMen72 : 1/23/2022 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15568654 SomeFan said:
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number 1 choice as HC if available.


If he doesn't coach the Saints, he'll be coaching the Cowgirls. Pray he stays in NO.
RE: As for the age thing, Payton is 58  
AcesUp : 1/23/2022 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15570088 dpinzow said:
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that's not exactly young. Some coaches like Belichick might want to coach forever. Payton might want to enjoy an early retirement, say at 60. Being an NFL head coach is a taxing job and he's done it for 15 years


His liver is probably 88.
RE: Wait  
Dr. D : 1/23/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15568898 JINTin Adirondacks said:
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Payton one Bowl with Brees all those years = genius and gets a pass but McCarthy is roasted for just his one Bowl with Rodgers? how's that work?

Fatassism?
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