I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
I'm not. Were you impressed with how the Bills coaching staffing managed the end of the game?
Explain the Bucs then. Bad coaching today too, same coaches that won the SB last year.
McDermott recovers from this loss if they score here.
This is the type of loss that a head coach eventually gets fired for.
I feel so bad for Bills fans. Football Gods owe the Bills, this is just cruel. And a Kansas City team who has been full of scumbags for a while with employees on the team who are scumbags and players like Hill who are scumbags wins? That makes me sick.
If there is a God the Chiefs will be stopped. I'm so fucking sick of the horse shoe being stuck firmly up theri ass since they got Mahomes.
Bills fans have suffered enough.
You need to step away. Far to invested in a team that isn't even yours.
I feel sick for a lot of people who I know who are Bills fans. Some close friends, and many work friends. We have a store in Buffalo and they all are die hard bills fans, im sick for them.
I know how much it hurts to lose a game like this and those fans have suffered long enough. I'm hurting for them.
These may be the 2 best teams in the NFL right now with the 2 best QBs. People criticizing the D is way off. Both QBs went up and down the field. I know its tough to recognize great QB play from where we have been the last few years but this is what happens in games like this.
Both QBs are GREAT, but Gabriel Davis was left wide open on 3 of his 4 TDs with absolutely zero help for the primary defender. That’s just plan bad defense. Travis Kelce is WIDE open on a critical third down in OT. That’s just bad defense.
I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
I'm not. Were you impressed with how the Bills coaching staffing managed the end of the game?
Explain the Bucs then. Bad coaching today too, same coaches that won the SB last year.
Agreed. Your point?
I came away from this game more impressed with Allen than
These may be the 2 best teams in the NFL right now with the 2 best QBs. People criticizing the D is way off. Both QBs went up and down the field. I know its tough to recognize great QB play from where we have been the last few years but this is what happens in games like this.
Both QBs are GREAT, but Gabriel Davis was left wide open on 3 of his 4 TDs with absolutely zero help for the primary defender. That’s just plan bad defense. Travis Kelce is WIDE open on a critical third down in OT. That’s just bad defense.
Pick your poison. They both have so many weapons just not one. Heck we don't have any. 4 penalties the whole game that is usually what we get in the first quarter. This was 2 elite teams period
is the Bills called timeouts before both plays by the Chiefs in regulation. They had plenty of time to come up with a good defense and get everyone on the same page. And the defense they came up with was to let Hill and Kelce have free releases right down the middle for the easiest completions of Mahomes career.
Defending the sidelines there was so fucking dumb. The chiefs were never using the sidelines. They had 3 timeouts. No point in throwing to the sidelines because tops they are going to get 3 plays off so they can throw in the middle of the field every single time.
This is a game that would automatically disqualify Frazier as a candidate for me.
I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
at what point did "contrarian" become synonymous with "trolling"?
Can you be less boring? Were you impressed with the way the Bills managed he end of the game?
Or are you too daft to understand the game?
Probably the latter...
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
it doesn’t mean the entire franchise is stupid. You are trying so hard all the time to be smarter than anyone that you forget, or purposely ignore, that people make mistakes. The Bills aren’t a stupid organization, you are only saying that in case Schoen doesn’t work out you could have predicted it.
Like I said, long con with no end in sight. Boring enough for you?
I feel sick for a lot of people who I know who are Bills fans. Some close friends, and many work friends. We have a store in Buffalo and they all are die hard bills fans, im sick for them.
I know how much it hurts to lose a game like this and those fans have suffered long enough. I'm hurting for them.
I believe you. I was truly on the fence this game. Seems like I was rooting for the team with the ball more than either team.
And yes, they need to guarantee each team a chance with the ball in the playoffs. They do it for FGs, but not TDs which is wrong.
fair to criticize the D when in critical moments the Chiefs and Bills were letting guys run wide open. There were not jaw dropping throws into tight windows deciding this game. Literally guys wide open
The Bills had a bad night coaching, no doubt. Especially Frazier & kicking it into the end zone. But right now, the Bills are one of the better franchises. Which franchise do you suggest Allen “deserves” right now?
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
McDermott and his defensive coordinator cost the Bills a shot at a title. I'd have zero faith in either one if I was the bills organization ever again. It won't happen, but I would fire him now. I know it seems crazy, but he wont ever recover from this loss and get them to a Super Bowl. You dont recover from losses that bad.
Big difference between trying to recover from a devastating loss with mid 20s Josh Allen as opposed to a 30+ year old recovering alcoholic like Fassel had to. The Bills will be fine. They need more talent on the d line though. They’ll have their best defensive player back next season too.
The Bills should not have kicked into the end zone
McDermott and his defensive coordinator cost the Bills a shot at a title. I'd have zero faith in either one if I was the bills organization ever again. It won't happen, but I would fire him now. I know it seems crazy, but he wont ever recover from this loss and get them to a Super Bowl. You dont recover from losses that bad.
Big difference between trying to recover from a devastating loss with mid 20s Josh Allen as opposed to a 30+ year old recovering alcoholic like Fassel had to. The Bills will be fine. They need more talent on the d line though. They’ll have their best defensive player back next season too.
Why does Kerry Collins have to catch strays here? Squib kick the ball and none of this happens.
Watched some excellent QB play other than Rodgers and Jimmy G.
Man I wish we had Josh Allen. Just love his game.
It was great seeing the passion and desire to win.
Burrow, Hill,Samuel, Allen, Mahomes, Kelce, etc…. Putting it all on the line.
I have not enjoyed watching football games like these four games in awhile.
Not kicking the ball down the middle is inexcusable. And then the defense that they played AFTER calling timeouts before each play is just as bad.
McDermott is going to be haunted by the kickoff until he actually wins a super bowl, if it ever happens.
The Bills would have had this game at home if they didn't lose 9-6 in Jacksonville. Next year they need to make sure thye have home field advantage, I think the crowd gets them over the finish line if that game was in Buffalo.
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
Perhaps 1 less play - 13 seconds equaled 3 plays including the FG.
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
You do realize that:
1) the clock does not start until the ball is touched
2) the clock does not start on a fair catch and it goes to the 25 yard line anyway.
So even if squibbed down the middle and someone falls on it, maybe one second comes off the clock and more than likely they start at better than the 25 yard line.
I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
It’s a long con, painfully obvious at this point.
You mean like intimating at this being a draft to pick a QB and never naming the QB we should take at 5?
Offenses - Equal
Defenses - KC (Bills' ran out of gas at the end)
Coaching - No contest, KC better
As a Giants fan, who is still agonizing over the loss to the Baltimore Colts in the NFL Championship game in '58, I'm not shedding any tears for the Bills.
I'm Old School - Sudden death, who ever scores first (no "do-overs)
The Bills had a bad night coaching, no doubt. Especially Frazier & kicking it into the end zone. But right now, the Bills are one of the better franchises. Which franchise do you suggest Allen “deserves” right now?
Allen was the Bills tonight. He kept them in the game and put them on the precipice of winning. But a horrible decision by his coaches cost him an opportunity to host the AFC Championship against the Bengals. And then a chance for the SB.
Because you know how fleeting these opportunities are...there are no guarantees.
RE: The Bills should not have kicked into the end zone
The Bills had a bad night coaching, no doubt. Especially Frazier & kicking it into the end zone. But right now, the Bills are one of the better franchises. Which franchise do you suggest Allen “deserves” right now?
Allen was the Bills tonight. He kept them in the game and put them on the precipice of winning. But a horrible decision by his coaches cost him an opportunity to host the AFC Championship against the Bengals. And then a chance for the SB.
Because you know how fleeting these opportunities are...there are no guarantees.
it still would have been a better option than what they did. In moments like these sometimes guys fuck up and dont do what they should do. The took it out of the players hands to make the right play and kicked it right through the endzone.
There were 2 options as far as im concerned. Squibbing it down the middle or kicking it to the 5-10 yard line. Kicking it to the 5-10 was definitely the ideal one but the one thing that should not have been a consideration was what they actually did.
McDermott made clock management mistakes too. He lost 20 seconds by not calling his 2nd timeout 2 plays before they scored. It didnt matter because Allen got the touchdown anyways but it was still poor clock management that was only bailed out by Allen throwing a rocket to Davis for TD.
RE: RE: Or they could have kicked it to the 5 yd line
So even if squibbed down the middle and someone falls on it, maybe one second comes off the clock and more than likely they start at better than the 25 yard line.
A good squib kick should eat 3 seconds off the clock - because it is hard to field them cleanly - and very likely be fielded inside the 15. So you are taking 10 yards away and 3 seconds.
Look, I also give credit where credit is due. The Chiefs were masterful with the execution - from the two throws to the FG.
I bet a lot of Ram fans have smashed tv's but the games have been
And the early game was great, too.
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I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
I'm not. Were you impressed with how the Bills coaching staffing managed the end of the game?
Explain the Bucs then. Bad coaching today too, same coaches that won the SB last year.
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McDermott recovers from this loss if they score here.
This is the type of loss that a head coach eventually gets fired for.
I feel so bad for Bills fans. Football Gods owe the Bills, this is just cruel. And a Kansas City team who has been full of scumbags for a while with employees on the team who are scumbags and players like Hill who are scumbags wins? That makes me sick.
If there is a God the Chiefs will be stopped. I'm so fucking sick of the horse shoe being stuck firmly up theri ass since they got Mahomes.
Bills fans have suffered enough.
You need to step away. Far to invested in a team that isn't even yours.
I feel sick for a lot of people who I know who are Bills fans. Some close friends, and many work friends. We have a store in Buffalo and they all are die hard bills fans, im sick for them.
I know how much it hurts to lose a game like this and those fans have suffered long enough. I'm hurting for them.
Both QBs are GREAT, but Gabriel Davis was left wide open on 3 of his 4 TDs with absolutely zero help for the primary defender. That’s just plan bad defense. Travis Kelce is WIDE open on a critical third down in OT. That’s just bad defense.
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I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
It’s a long con, painfully obvious at this point.
And Mr. Sanctimonious with his usual insight.
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I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
I'm not. Were you impressed with how the Bills coaching staffing managed the end of the game?
Explain the Bucs then. Bad coaching today too, same coaches that won the SB last year.
Agreed. Your point?
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These may be the 2 best teams in the NFL right now with the 2 best QBs. People criticizing the D is way off. Both QBs went up and down the field. I know its tough to recognize great QB play from where we have been the last few years but this is what happens in games like this.
Both QBs are GREAT, but Gabriel Davis was left wide open on 3 of his 4 TDs with absolutely zero help for the primary defender. That’s just plan bad defense. Travis Kelce is WIDE open on a critical third down in OT. That’s just bad defense.
Pick your poison. They both have so many weapons just not one. Heck we don't have any. 4 penalties the whole game that is usually what we get in the first quarter. This was 2 elite teams period
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Defending the sidelines there was so fucking dumb. The chiefs were never using the sidelines. They had 3 timeouts. No point in throwing to the sidelines because tops they are going to get 3 plays off so they can throw in the middle of the field every single time.
This is a game that would automatically disqualify Frazier as a candidate for me.
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I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
at what point did "contrarian" become synonymous with "trolling"?
Can you be less boring? Were you impressed with the way the Bills managed he end of the game?
Or are you too daft to understand the game?
Probably the latter...
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
This is why some teams never win Super Bowls. Have to capitalize on opportunities . Teams change fast, injuries. Tough to stay on top.
Of course, you can't address the point, which is a legitimate about the Bills coaching staff.
Instead, your Tourette's Syndrome kicks and the name calling begins.
Like I said, long con with no end in sight. Boring enough for you?
I feel sick for a lot of people who I know who are Bills fans. Some close friends, and many work friends. We have a store in Buffalo and they all are die hard bills fans, im sick for them.
I know how much it hurts to lose a game like this and those fans have suffered long enough. I'm hurting for them.
I believe you. I was truly on the fence this game. Seems like I was rooting for the team with the ball more than either team.
And yes, they need to guarantee each team a chance with the ball in the playoffs. They do it for FGs, but not TDs which is wrong.
This is why some teams never win Super Bowls. Have to capitalize on opportunities . Teams change fast, injuries. Tough to stay on top.
Yep, 13 seconds...
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your go to phrase when anyone calls you out on your bullshit. Lol, like clockwork.
Of course, you can't address the point, which is a legitimate about the Bills coaching staff.
Instead, your Tourette's Syndrome kicks and the name calling begins.
I didn’t call you a name, I said your spouting bullshit. You are a joke man.
Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
Fassel never recovered from the 49ers debacle.
McDermott and his defensive coordinator cost the Bills a shot at a title. I'd have zero faith in either one if I was the bills organization ever again. It won't happen, but I would fire him now. I know it seems crazy, but he wont ever recover from this loss and get them to a Super Bowl. You dont recover from losses that bad.
Big difference between trying to recover from a devastating loss with mid 20s Josh Allen as opposed to a 30+ year old recovering alcoholic like Fassel had to. The Bills will be fine. They need more talent on the d line though. They’ll have their best defensive player back next season too.
A high short kick to the goal line may have been the best option.
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never recovered from the Super Bowl.
Fassel never recovered from the 49ers debacle.
McDermott and his defensive coordinator cost the Bills a shot at a title. I'd have zero faith in either one if I was the bills organization ever again. It won't happen, but I would fire him now. I know it seems crazy, but he wont ever recover from this loss and get them to a Super Bowl. You dont recover from losses that bad.
Big difference between trying to recover from a devastating loss with mid 20s Josh Allen as opposed to a 30+ year old recovering alcoholic like Fassel had to. The Bills will be fine. They need more talent on the d line though. They’ll have their best defensive player back next season too.
Why does Kerry Collins have to catch strays here? Squib kick the ball and none of this happens.
I didn’t call you a name, I said your spouting bullshit. You are a joke man.
My mistake. I confused you with Eric.
Regardless, the more we avoid each other, the better.
A high short kick to the goal line may have been the best option.
A Gano special
Watched some excellent QB play other than Rodgers and Jimmy G.
Man I wish we had Josh Allen. Just love his game.
It was great seeing the passion and desire to win.
Burrow, Hill,Samuel, Allen, Mahomes, Kelce, etc…. Putting it all on the line.
I have not enjoyed watching football games like these four games in awhile.
Not kicking the ball down the middle is inexcusable. And then the defense that they played AFTER calling timeouts before each play is just as bad.
McDermott is going to be haunted by the kickoff until he actually wins a super bowl, if it ever happens.
The Bills would have had this game at home if they didn't lose 9-6 in Jacksonville. Next year they need to make sure thye have home field advantage, I think the crowd gets them over the finish line if that game was in Buffalo.
Tyreek Hill is scum. Fuck him.
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Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
Perhaps 1 less play - 13 seconds equaled 3 plays including the FG.
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Seems like the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball made some good decisions in the last few minutes to take the lead multiple times. The real issue is with the defensive coordinator who made every wrong call towards the end of the game. That was more of the issue vs the kickoff.. but hey, a simple minded person like yourself cannot make that distinction.
You are a beauty. If the Chiefs are forced to field the kickoff critical time is erased.
The Chiefs would have likely lost at least 5 seconds. So they start with 8 second. Do you think that would have made a difference?
You do realize that:
1) the clock does not start until the ball is touched
2) the clock does not start on a fair catch and it goes to the 25 yard line anyway.
So even if squibbed down the middle and someone falls on it, maybe one second comes off the clock and more than likely they start at better than the 25 yard line.
When I saw hardman back there instead of hill- that’s what I would have done.
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I know you are trying to be contrarian here, but the Bills fucking picked him (who Schoen was apart of btw). A lot of others weren’t smart enough to even do that.
It’s a long con, painfully obvious at this point.
You mean like intimating at this being a draft to pick a QB and never naming the QB we should take at 5?
Offenses - Equal
Defenses - KC (Bills' ran out of gas at the end)
Coaching - No contest, KC better
As a Giants fan, who is still agonizing over the loss to the Baltimore Colts in the NFL Championship game in '58, I'm not shedding any tears for the Bills.
I'm Old School - Sudden death, who ever scores first (no "do-overs)
Allen was the Bills tonight. He kept them in the game and put them on the precipice of winning. But a horrible decision by his coaches cost him an opportunity to host the AFC Championship against the Bengals. And then a chance for the SB.
Because you know how fleeting these opportunities are...there are no guarantees.
Ding ding. Coach should be fired. Awful awful awful.
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The Bills had a bad night coaching, no doubt. Especially Frazier & kicking it into the end zone. But right now, the Bills are one of the better franchises. Which franchise do you suggest Allen “deserves” right now?
Allen was the Bills tonight. He kept them in the game and put them on the precipice of winning. But a horrible decision by his coaches cost him an opportunity to host the AFC Championship against the Bengals. And then a chance for the SB.
Because you know how fleeting these opportunities are...there are no guarantees.
Bullshit. Football is a team sport.
There were 2 options as far as im concerned. Squibbing it down the middle or kicking it to the 5-10 yard line. Kicking it to the 5-10 was definitely the ideal one but the one thing that should not have been a consideration was what they actually did.
McDermott made clock management mistakes too. He lost 20 seconds by not calling his 2nd timeout 2 plays before they scored. It didnt matter because Allen got the touchdown anyways but it was still poor clock management that was only bailed out by Allen throwing a rocket to Davis for TD.
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that would be ideal. Force a return.
When I saw hardman back there instead of hill- that’s what I would have done.
So you fair catch it at the 5 and the ball still goes to the 25
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that would be ideal. Force a return.
When I saw hardman back there instead of hill- that’s what I would have done.
So you fair catch it at the 5 and the ball still goes to the 25
Lol, this ain’t college buddy. You fair catch it- it stays at the 5.
Bryant kicks a long squib that goes out of bounds at the one yard line.
Cowboys start at the 40, get in tying FG range with one throw, win in OT.
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Why his kicker kicked the ball in the endzone with 13 seconds left to play.
Just wow.
So even if squibbed down the middle and someone falls on it, maybe one second comes off the clock and more than likely they start at better than the 25 yard line.
A good squib kick should eat 3 seconds off the clock - because it is hard to field them cleanly - and very likely be fielded inside the 15. So you are taking 10 yards away and 3 seconds.
Look, I also give credit where credit is due. The Chiefs were masterful with the execution - from the two throws to the FG.
Insane QB play on both sides. The Giants don’t play in this same league...
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