hope the Giants don't overthink the HC position and just hire Daboll. This team needs a big time offensive mind. I have zero confidence that Flores can find that if he's HC. Last thing we need is a coach who goes through offensive coordinators every season.
Daboll looking pretty good so far. Let's see him keep it up
defenders have taken themselves out of plays and allowed Mahomes to just run wild. The angles they have taken have been pathetic.
Yep. They need to completely ignore the pump fake and just concentrate on putting the shoulder pads into his ribs. If he wants to run, make him pay a severe price
RE: To think the Giants could have drafted either QB
it fun to think that the HCs on the Giants wanted to draft both quarterbacks in this game, but the GM said no? Good times.
And the one who passed on Allen was allowed to retire, while the one who passed on Mahomes was fired despite being a big part of 2 Super Bowls.
It annoys me that Gettleman was allowed to retire while Reese was fired.
The Allen one wouldn't bother me nearly as much if they took a different QB, even if they were wrong, I would have been ok with it, at least they were swinging for the fences.
But taking a running back over Allen? Inexcusable.
I screwed up. Mahomes was taken way ahead of the Giants pick.
McAdoo wanted the Giants to trade up for him and the Giants absolutely could have done so, they could have traded up to the spot the Chiefs did and given up what the Chiefs gave up and got him. Giants pick was higher than the Chiefs so their offer would have been preferable to the Chiefs offer.
defenders have taken themselves out of plays and allowed Mahomes to just run wild. The angles they have taken have been pathetic.
Yep. They need to completely ignore the pump fake and just concentrate on putting the shoulder pads into his ribs. If he wants to run, make him pay a severe price
Agreed. Similar to what the Giants did to Hurts in the first Philly game every time he ran that option. Hit him hard regardless of him keeping or handing off.
had the luxury of a starter who was taking them to the playoffs and playign relatively well.
He may not have needed a year, but Reid had the luxury of letting him watch for a year because Alex Smith was playing well enough.
No one knows if he would have been just as good even if he played right from the start (obviously not immediately this good, but his development very well may have been the same)
had the luxury of a starter who was taking them to the playoffs and playign relatively well.
He may not have needed a year, but Reid had the luxury of letting him watch for a year because Alex Smith was playing well enough.
No one knows if he would have been just as good even if he played right from the start (obviously not immediately this good, but his development very well may have been the same)
Mook - there was a few articles explaining Mahomes had to learn how to read defenses instead of the one read at Tech. There were even articles that in camp of his MVP year - he was struggling with INTs.
There’s little doubt sitting and learning made him better.
have learned that while on the job. No one disputes he had a lot to learn, but it's also possible to leanr that while on the job. Im sure his first year starting wouldnt have been great if he started from day 1 but his development may have been the same, no one knows. The guy has a lot of things you can't teach and would have showed whether or not he sat for a season
for the Chiefs sitting him made sense, they were still good enough to make the playoffs and compete with him on the bench. But I dont buy he wouldn't be the player he is now if he didn't sit that 1st year.
for the Chiefs sitting him made sense, they were still good enough to make the playoffs and compete with him on the bench. But I dont buy he wouldn't be the player he is now if he didn't sit that 1st year.
I think it helped. But we will never know. But it’s a fact having reid was the best thing for him. Not sure McAdoo and a terrible roster would put him in the position he is in today.
better get this game back on the tracks quickly. If they go in down 7 they will be down 14 before they see the ball again. They need to score before half.
This isn't college, we can wait. He can essentially be hired and start forming a staff before the Bills season is over.
At this very moment, both teams are stronger than what they were last year when they met despite their records.
Giants never had the chance to draft Mahomes.
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Giants never had the chance to draft Mahomes.
Yep. They need to completely ignore the pump fake and just concentrate on putting the shoulder pads into his ribs. If he wants to run, make him pay a severe price
Would have needed to trade up. They did not pass on Mahomes.
And the one who passed on Allen was allowed to retire, while the one who passed on Mahomes was fired despite being a big part of 2 Super Bowls.
It annoys me that Gettleman was allowed to retire while Reese was fired.
The Allen one wouldn't bother me nearly as much if they took a different QB, even if they were wrong, I would have been ok with it, at least they were swinging for the fences.
But taking a running back over Allen? Inexcusable.
No Mahomes is just ridiculous
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Giants never had the chance to draft Mahomes.
Giants picked 23rd the year Mahomes went 12th in the draft.
Mahomes was never available during a Giants pick.
McAdoo wanted the Giants to trade up for him and the Giants absolutely could have done so, they could have traded up to the spot the Chiefs did and given up what the Chiefs gave up and got him. Giants pick was higher than the Chiefs so their offer would have been preferable to the Chiefs offer.
Having Reid coaching him and sitting him a year made a huge difference.
Having Reid coaching him and sitting him a year made a huge difference.
Mahomes didn't need a year.
Yup. By any means necessary.
Hard to compete without one.
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Having Reid coaching him and sitting him a year made a huge difference.
Mahomes didn't need a year.
How the fuck do you know? You know more than Andy Reid?
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defenders have taken themselves out of plays and allowed Mahomes to just run wild. The angles they have taken have been pathetic.
Yep. They need to completely ignore the pump fake and just concentrate on putting the shoulder pads into his ribs. If he wants to run, make him pay a severe price
Agreed. Similar to what the Giants did to Hurts in the first Philly game every time he ran that option. Hit him hard regardless of him keeping or handing off.
He may not have needed a year, but Reid had the luxury of letting him watch for a year because Alex Smith was playing well enough.
No one knows if he would have been just as good even if he played right from the start (obviously not immediately this good, but his development very well may have been the same)
He may not have needed a year, but Reid had the luxury of letting him watch for a year because Alex Smith was playing well enough.
No one knows if he would have been just as good even if he played right from the start (obviously not immediately this good, but his development very well may have been the same)
Mook - there was a few articles explaining Mahomes had to learn how to read defenses instead of the one read at Tech. There were even articles that in camp of his MVP year - he was struggling with INTs.
There’s little doubt sitting and learning made him better.
Mahomes - ( New Window )
I think it helped. But we will never know. But it’s a fact having reid was the best thing for him. Not sure McAdoo and a terrible roster would put him in the position he is in today.
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Was McAdoo would have inserted him before ready and had to coach him up.
Having Reid coaching him and sitting him a year made a huge difference.
Mahomes didn't need a year.
If Mahomes had come to the Giants, he would've sat a year just like he did in KC, he wasn't going to start over Eli.
The difference is, instead of Reid coaching him up that year, it would've been McAdoo.
Took the ball out Allen’s hands two plays in a row. They may hand it off 3 more times now.