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Unimpressed with HC Candidates so far

Festina Lente : 1/23/2022 12:16 pm
Really wonder if they might look into Doug Pederson or McDaniels or another respected offensive mind. It also seems like almost every one of them either has some tie to the new GM. Same old song. I hope we get some out of the box candidates.

So two  
BigBlueJ : 1/23/2022 12:18 pm : link
former OC's and a special teams coordinator no one ever heard of was not out of the box enough? How about we settle for some good ole competency and known quantity.
You’re unimpressed by the candidates so far  
aimrocky : 1/23/2022 12:18 pm : link
Because they’re not known names like Pederson or McDaniels, yet you want an outside the box candidate?

Sure sounds like you don’t know what you want.
Seems to be a very  
Breeze_94 : 1/23/2022 12:19 pm : link
Defensive minded search, aside from Daboll.

Graham
Anaromo (sp?)
Frazier
Quinn
Flores

Don’t think that’s by mistake.
 
ryanmkeane : 1/23/2022 12:19 pm : link
we hired an “out of the box” candidate 2 years ago and everyone loved it. How’d that turn out?
RE: Seems to be a very  
Breeze_94 : 1/23/2022 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15569085 Breeze_94 said:
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Defensive minded search, aside from Daboll.

Graham
Anaromo (sp?)
Frazier
Quinn
Flores

Don’t think that’s by mistake.


And I guess this makes sense. Buffalo is built around a defensive minded coach.
Very underwhelming list.  
MtDizzle : 1/23/2022 12:20 pm : link
Anyone who says different is fooling themselves.
I want Flores, but I change my mind  
Big Blue '56 : 1/23/2022 12:21 pm : link
every 5 minutes like many fans-depends on which article I read..😂
RE: …  
broadbandz : 1/23/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15569086 ryanmkeane said:
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we hired an “out of the box” candidate 2 years ago and everyone loved it. How’d that turn out?


not a single coach in history could win with what Judge was given especially this yr. He saw the writing on the wall and got himself fired. Anyone hired in 2020 was set up to fail.
Interview Demeco Ryans  
Sean : 1/23/2022 12:27 pm : link
.
Flores scares me.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 1/23/2022 12:29 pm : link
If reports are true that he "Does not get along well with others", that would be a recipe for disaster here. No matter the coach, we still have several years of rebuild /adversity here. Dealing with disenchanted players and media is a real concern IF these reports are true. Plus, we need an offensive minded HC at this point. Not 100% in on Daboll as I really don't want another 1st time HC, but there are red flags with Flores. I would prefer Quinn over Flores.
GMs often hire coaches  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/23/2022 12:31 pm : link
that they have experience with or connections to. Can we stop pretending that the Giants are the only ones that do this?

Any GM in the league would have interviewed coaches they know.

Coaches also hire assistants that they are familiar with.

I feel exactly the opposite  
cosmicj : 1/23/2022 12:35 pm : link
The coaches being interviewed are very qualified and often impressive. A good pool to be hiring from.
FL  
JohnG in Albany : 1/23/2022 12:37 pm : link
Do you really expect the new GM to hire someone he's not familiar with?
Pederson , McDaniels  
lono801 : 1/23/2022 12:42 pm : link
And I’ll add Harbaugh...are the last three guys I would want to see ass HC
I keep going back to “lockstep”  
Sean : 1/23/2022 12:42 pm : link
I think it is Daboll, and all these defensive interviews are about gathering info on personnel/scheme for eventual DC.
RE: I keep going back to “lockstep”  
blueblood : 1/23/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15569124 Sean said:
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I think it is Daboll, and all these defensive interviews are about gathering info on personnel/scheme for eventual DC.


This guy gets it
Supposedly we are interviewing Flores just  
Chris684 : 1/23/2022 12:48 pm : link
haven’t seen it reported when as of yet.

Also, if we are interviewing the Cincy DC, I’d love to talk to DeMeco Ryan’s as well.

And not that I expect it but it goes without saying I would hope they at least did due diligence on guys like Harbaugh and Payton.
Coughlin was the stars aligned perfect candidate  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/23/2022 12:50 pm : link
I thought Rhule and Rodriguez were a tier below, fwiw.

The coaches we are looking at are another meh-ish uninspiring tier below.

And then there is Mcadoo/Shurmer/Judge.
I would really dislike either Pederson or McDaniels  
PatersonPlank : 1/23/2022 12:52 pm : link
Both are primadonnas
RE: Pederson , McDaniels  
JohnG in Albany : 1/23/2022 12:54 pm : link
In comment 15569123 lono801 said:
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And I’ll add Harbaugh...are the last three guys I would want to see ass HC


While I understand the interest in these guys, I can't forgive McDaniels' drafting of Tebow in the first round, I'm too immature to get past Pederson's Philadelphia-ness, and Harbaugh is a bit on the kooky side for me.

Have you talked to Schoen?  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2022 12:55 pm : link
I'm sure if you reach out he'll run the candidates by you before scheduling interviews to make sure you approve, you know with all your NFL head coach selection experience.
The Giants aren't big on kicking down the door  
ghost718 : 1/23/2022 12:57 pm : link
when it comes to finding a head coach.

It's more like they throw a rock at a window
They are a bit unimpressive but that's what we got.  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2022 12:59 pm : link
So pick the dog with the least fleas...
Put  
Jerry from Maine : 1/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
The bottle down. 😀
They literally just started.  
CV36 : 1/23/2022 1:08 pm : link
They will interview a bunch of guys before deciding. I don’t care if it’s an offensive guy or a defensive guy. Make a great hire and surround yourself with a great staff. We are seeing that great defenses can win big games. Hoping that trend continues today.
Considering the shit McDaniels has pulled,  
an_idol_mind : 1/23/2022 1:13 pm : link
I find it amazing that folks still want him.
Has Josh McDaniels even been scheduled?  
cosmicj : 1/23/2022 1:22 pm : link
I can’t imagine Mara would approve that hire.
McDaniels would be impressive?  
RCPhoenix : 1/23/2022 1:32 pm : link
What exactly has he done without Tom Brady that makes him an impressive candidate?

And no thanks to a candidate who pulled the crap he pulled with the Colts.
I will be impressed with the coach  
Giantimistic : 1/23/2022 1:45 pm : link
Once I see wins in the win column. I have no real preferences because I have no idea who will be good and who will fail.
HC is the MOST important hire on a football team  
Festina Lente : 1/23/2022 1:50 pm : link
We have got to make sure we get this right. Unlike the GM search we do have some actual info/ body of work to make some educated guesses on potential candidates. All of these guys just don't seem inspiring to me.

And the arguments for why an OC for hc have been discussed many times (won't lose him every year, etc, etc).
RE: Seems to be a very  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/23/2022 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15569085 Breeze_94 said:
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Defensive minded search, aside from Daboll.

Graham
Anaromo (sp?)
Frazier
Quinn
Flores

Don’t think that’s by mistake.

My read on it is that Daboll is already the leader in the clubhouse and now they're compiling notes for where they want to go on defense.

But that's potentially my own preference for Daboll (out of that list) informing my POV.
Douglas Ervin Pederson is the  
LoveFootball : 1/23/2022 2:14 pm : link
Barney Octavius Rubble of the National Football League.

Hard pass on the block headed moron.
The optimal coaches for the Giants...  
EricJ : 1/23/2022 2:19 pm : link
already have head coaching jobs in the league. So, we are left with guys with little to no success as a HQ in this league, or guys who have not proven themselves yet as an NFL HQ. So, how can anyone truly be impressed?
We need a guy who has experience building a team from nothing  
PatersonPlank : 1/23/2022 2:22 pm : link
Not a coordinator on a team that was already in place and just tweaked things. This was one of the issues with Judge.
RE: The optimal coaches for the Giants...  
cosmicj : 1/23/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15569290 EricJ said:
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already have head coaching jobs in the league. So, we are left with guys with little to no success as a HQ in this league, or guys who have not proven themselves yet as an NFL HQ. So, how can anyone truly be impressed?


The list includes coaches who have won a championship, who have almost won a championship (2), who have overperformed in a lousy franchise (Flores) and several coordinators with clear qualifications and promise.

That’s not impressive? Do we need to resuscitate Vince Lombardi to get people to like the slate?
RE: RE: The optimal coaches for the Giants...  
Big Blue '56 : 1/23/2022 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15569346 cosmicj said:
Quote:
In comment 15569290 EricJ said:


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already have head coaching jobs in the league. So, we are left with guys with little to no success as a HQ in this league, or guys who have not proven themselves yet as an NFL HQ. So, how can anyone truly be impressed?



The list includes coaches who have won a championship, who have almost won a championship (2), who have overperformed in a lousy franchise (Flores) and several coordinators with clear qualifications and promise.

That’s not impressive? Do we need to resuscitate Vince Lombardi to get people to like the slate?


Lombardi doesn’t need to be resuscitated. He can handle the load where he is
Lombardi isn't walking thru the door  
JonC : 1/23/2022 3:34 pm : link
nor is Parcells, or Coughlin, etc.

Got to hope NYG (Schoen, in particular) is able to identify a coach with what it takes to win a SB.
i think Daboll is the guy  
Platos : 1/23/2022 3:44 pm : link
and these other guys are just the dog and pony show to make it look like these NFL guys don't just hire their buddies

I’m quite sure the guys on the list would be equally  
Spider56 : 1/23/2022 3:45 pm : link
unimpressed with most of what is posted on BBI.
RE: Douglas Ervin Pederson is the  
MOOPS : 1/23/2022 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15569284 LoveFootball said:
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Barney Octavius Rubble of the National Football League.

Hard pass on the block headed moron.


Son, I like the cut of your jib.
.  
Banks : 1/23/2022 4:00 pm : link
McDaniels would be the most disheartening hire ever. I cant believe this clown is always brought up
Maybe  
Joe Beckwith : 1/23/2022 4:46 pm : link
Mike McDaniels.
I agree with OP  
Vanzetti : 1/23/2022 5:37 pm : link
All coordinators are a shot in the dark and most of them wind up not being very good.

Giants just hired three in a row, all of whom were terrible. Daboll seems like a completely "meh" hire. Much rather go with a guy who proven himself as a HC. I would even take McDaniels over Daboll or another coordinator.
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