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Kevin Abrams has not been involved in the HC interviews

Sean : 1/23/2022 3:05 pm
I think this is worth noting considering he was part of the Shurmur & Judge interview cycles.

Abrams has to realize his time here is done, or at the least he should be looking elsewhere. Good news imo.
Great news.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/23/2022 3:07 pm : link
.
Why should he be?  
blueblood : 1/23/2022 3:12 pm : link
He is isnt a personnel guy.
Given the cap mess  
Crazed Dogs : 1/23/2022 3:13 pm : link
I tend to agree
I’ve said this a lot here, but I bet Mara is working  
Ben in Tampa : 1/23/2022 3:16 pm : link
the phones trying to find him a landing spot

Could see him moving to the league office
Mara and Tisch are involved  
Archer : 1/23/2022 3:17 pm : link
Why would the owners be involved in the interview process for the head Coach ?

If the choice is Schoen's what value do the owner's bring to the table ?

I hope that they will not interfere in the selection
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Anarumo, 55, spoke this afternoon via video conferencing with team president John Mara, chairman Steve Tisch and Joe Schoen, who was hired last week as the Giants' new general manager.
What about the harbinger  
cjac : 1/23/2022 3:19 pm : link
Of all that is evil?

(Chris Mara)
RE: Given the cap mess  
j_rud : 1/23/2022 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15569394 Crazed Dogs said:
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I tend to agree

While I didn't want him as GM I do think the last 2 years are a result of Abrams bending over backwards to accommodate Gettleman's awful decisions. Over the past decade they've been in good shape with the cap.
RE: Mara and Tisch are involved  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/23/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15569407 Archer said:
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Why would the owners be involved in the interview process for the head Coach ?

If the choice is Schoen's what value do the owner's bring to the table ?

I hope that they will not interfere in the selection


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Anarumo, 55, spoke this afternoon via video conferencing with team president John Mara, chairman Steve Tisch and Joe Schoen, who was hired last week as the Giants' new general manager.

For a $20M contract do they have right to be involved? I think so. It's their money


RE: Why should he be?  
Sean : 1/23/2022 3:39 pm : link
In comment 15569391 blueblood said:
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He is isnt a personnel guy.

Of course he shouldn’t, but he was for the last two HC hires. That’s the point.
More good news  
ZogZerg : 1/23/2022 3:41 pm : link
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So  
widmerseyebrow : 1/23/2022 3:41 pm : link
That's a shame  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/23/2022 3:41 pm : link
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RE: Why should he be?  
section125 : 1/23/2022 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15569391 blueblood said:
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He is isnt a personnel guy.


exactly, why would he?
RE: Mara and Tisch are involved  
Essex : 1/23/2022 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15569407 Archer said:
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Why would the owners be involved in the interview process for the head Coach ?

If the choice is Schoen's what value do the owner's bring to the table ?

I hope that they will not interfere in the selection


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Anarumo, 55, spoke this afternoon via video conferencing with team president John Mara, chairman Steve Tisch and Joe Schoen, who was hired last week as the Giants' new general manager.




Ownership is always going to want to be in the room when seeing who is going to run their multi billion dollar franchise
Notice as well  
johnnyb : 1/23/2022 3:44 pm : link
Chris Mara has not been mentioned as being present for the HC interviews.
RE: RE: Why should he be?  
Sean : 1/23/2022 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15569477 section125 said:
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In comment 15569391 blueblood said:


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He is isnt a personnel guy.



exactly, why would he?

Again, he was before.
RE: Mara and Tisch are involved  
Johnny5 : 1/23/2022 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15569407 Archer said:
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Why would the owners be involved in the interview process for the head Coach ?

If the choice is Schoen's what value do the owner's bring to the table ?

I hope that they will not interfere in the selection


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Anarumo, 55, spoke this afternoon via video conferencing with team president John Mara, chairman Steve Tisch and Joe Schoen, who was hired last week as the Giants' new general manager.



Is this a real question? You think the owners of any other billion $$$ businesses don't meet with CEO level hires?
Johnny5  
Sean : 1/23/2022 4:10 pm : link
It’s amazing isn’t it? What owner wouldn’t sit in during an interview?
 
christian : 1/23/2022 5:00 pm : link
It signals a marked change in the front office.

Abrams had increasing exposure and responsibilities. Anyone who has ever worked near a C suite knows Abrams was being groomed for a peaceful transition of power.

That didn’t happen, and now his seat at the big kids table was taken away.
RE: …  
Sean : 1/23/2022 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15569671 christian said:
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It signals a marked change in the front office.

Abrams had increasing exposure and responsibilities. Anyone who has ever worked near a C suite knows Abrams was being groomed for a peaceful transition of power.

That didn’t happen, and now his seat at the big kids table was taken away.

If you’re Abrams, you have to be looking elsewhere with another franchise. It’s gotta hurt for him, he’s been a good soldier. But there is no future with NYG.
Better News Would Be  
Trainmaster : 1/23/2022 5:12 pm : link
Chris Mara has not been involved in the GM or HC interviews.

I don't think you guys understand  
Dave on the UWS : 1/23/2022 5:59 pm : link
what "leading the search" means. Schoen will bring the candidates HE wants interviewed, to a meeting with him and the owners. Schoen will tell them who HE wants, the three will discuss it and make a decision.
Frankly, ownership would be irresponsible if they weren't directly involved.
Trainmaster  
arniefez : 1/23/2022 6:06 pm : link
100% WRONG. Chris Mara was involved in every GM interview.
I doubt any NFL team hires a GM or HC without an interview with the  
arniefez : 1/23/2022 6:18 pm : link
owner. What is clearly different about this search is Steve Tisch. This is by far the most involved he's been with the on the field football program since the day he became co-owner.

When Judge was hired Tisch was a rubber stamp and was not in the original interviews.


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Co-owner Steve Tisch apparently pleaded with his partner, John Mara, to ‘blow up’ the model two years ago and start from the ground up. Mara balked and stayed the course, giving general manager Dave Gentleman a vote of confidence and Joe Judge was hired as the head coach.

You know the rest. The Giants have been going downhill with no brakes ever since. They finally crashed last week when they were embarrassed by a marginal Washington team at home in a game that saw the coaching staff basically circle the wagons and surrender.

Giants’ Steve Tisch pushed John Mara to fire Joe Judge - ( New Window )
Has Schoen arrived  
Bill in UT : 1/23/2022 7:48 pm : link
in NJ yet?
RE: RE: Given the cap mess  
k2tampa : 1/23/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15569419 j_rud said:
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In comment 15569394 Crazed Dogs said:


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I tend to agree


While I didn't want him as GM I do think the last 2 years are a result of Abrams bending over backwards to accommodate Gettleman's awful decisions. Over the past decade they've been in good shape with the cap.


You left out a key phrase ... 'having to bend over backwards.' Abrams couldn't say no. Gettleman was his boss.
Agreed. I don't know how anyone can say with certainty  
robbieballs2003 : 1/24/2022 7:21 am : link
That our cap situation is on Abrams. When your boss tells you to do something at your job does that mean you always agree with your boss by default? When your boss tells you to do something that you don't agree with, do you say no and don't do it or do you do what he/she asks?

It ridiculous to put this at the hands of Abrams. Unless someone can tell me something egregious he has done with the contracts then I can't blame him. Does that mean he stays? No. But it will be Schoen's decision and if he wants Abrams then nobody should have a problem with that either.
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