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Leslie Frazier - For That Reason, I’m Out

Saos1n : 1/23/2022 9:55 pm
Nah, bruh. You’re done here
Needs to apologize to Josh Allen  
GNewGiants : 1/23/2022 9:57 pm : link
McDermott too.

I’m sorry but that’s inexcusable. If I’m Allen, I’m pissed.
Josh Allen was fucking great.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/23/2022 9:57 pm : link
Frazier was never going to be our HC imo
The defense played that 13 seconds  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2022 9:58 pm : link
like they were up 4 and rushing 4 was inexcusable, you should of rushed 2 and given Mahomes nothing to throw to
And not the fact he had a terrible record as a head coach???  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/23/2022 9:58 pm : link
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Please Don't Hire This Guy  
mvftw : 1/23/2022 9:58 pm : link
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RE: Josh Allen was fucking great.  
GNewGiants : 1/23/2022 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15570706 Big Blue '56 said:
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Frazier was never going to be our HC imo


Frazier should never be a HC after this. He may not even be a DC. That was as bad of coaching you will ever see.
All they had to to was contain them for 13 seconds  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/23/2022 9:59 pm : link
please don't hire this man
RE: And not the fact he had a terrible record as a head coach???  
Saos1n : 1/23/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15570713 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I didn’t say that. However, they interviewed him, didn’t they?
Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/23/2022 9:59 pm : link
Whatcha gonna do?
It  
jtfuoco : 1/23/2022 10:00 pm : link
Does not get much worse then that
RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
mvftw : 1/23/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:
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Whatcha gonna do?

You want him as your HC...
What a horrible defensive game plan  
eric2425ny : 1/23/2022 10:01 pm : link
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RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 1/23/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:
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Whatcha gonna do?


The coin toss wasn't the game. The Buffalo defensive calls with 13 seconds left was the game.
RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
DonnieD89 : 1/23/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:
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Whatcha gonna do?


I agree. If Buffalo won the coin toss, Buffalo would’ve won. Both defenses were like tissue paper at this stage of the game.
RE: RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
RCPhoenix : 1/23/2022 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15570743 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:


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Whatcha gonna do?



The coin toss wasn't the game. The Buffalo defensive calls with 13 seconds left was the game.


And not covering Hill
RE: RE: RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
DonnieD89 : 1/23/2022 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15570756 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 15570743 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:


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In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:


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Whatcha gonna do?



The coin toss wasn't the game. The Buffalo defensive calls with 13 seconds left was the game.



And not covering Hill


I’m talking about relative to the time during the game, my friend. 36 to 36. What happened before was passé.
A LB  
Joe Beckwith : 1/23/2022 10:15 pm : link
covering Kelce.🤣
And the middle open.
He’d keep the tradition of our DCs.
I just don’t see how  
GNewGiants : 1/23/2022 10:16 pm : link
McDermott and Frazier can ever be trusted by Allen. Firings are extremes. But man those 2 fucked him.
On that game tying drive, how would you defend that pass to Hill?  
DCGMan : 1/23/2022 10:19 pm : link
They had trips with Kelce in front of Hill. You would have a hard time holding Hill at the line, but how do you play 15 yards off the line of scrimmage with someone like Hill?
RE: On that game tying drive, how would you defend that pass to Hill?  
DonnieD89 : 1/23/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15570855 DCGMan said:
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They had trips with Kelce in front of Hill. You would have a hard time holding Hill at the line, but how do you play 15 yards off the line of scrimmage with someone like Hill?


I kept thinking watching Tyreke Hill. Can Toney be that guy?
15 seconds?  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2022 10:26 pm : link
Just grab them after they run 5 yards and take the penalty...
#1 defense  
AcesUp : 1/23/2022 10:41 pm : link
Said it in the other thread but if that isn’t a clue into where the league is and how much further it’s heading then I don’t know what is. Dominant defenses are a thing of the past. Maybe you get one for a season, realistically you really only get one for a stretch within a season, but if you are building from scratch you build with offense.
Let's be honest here...  
bw in dc : 1/23/2022 10:43 pm : link
Frazier was very likely a courtesy interview by Schoen.

But the way he coached this game in the 4th quarter should reduce any chance to 0%.
I would want  
Mook80 : 1/23/2022 11:00 pm : link
both Frazier and McDermott fired right now if I were a Bills fan.

Bills were awful in close games this year. By awful i mean they lost every single one score game.

That's a direct indictment of the head coach.

The loss in Jacksonville cost them home field advantage and in my opinion a Super Bowl title.
No defense was stopping Mahomes there  
EmpireWF : 1/23/2022 11:02 pm : link
Frazier won't be the HC, but it has nothing to do with the Bills D in this game.
in a way  
Mook80 : 1/23/2022 11:04 pm : link
the Bills situation reminds me of the Bucs situation in the early 2000's.

Dungy got them as far as he personally could and they fired him and took Gruden from the Raiders and gave up a big package to get him.

That paid off quickly when the Bucs won a Super Bowl.

I'd try to make Tomlin the present day Gruden and get him to Buffalo if the Steelers were willing to listen. Who knows maybe in a rebuild like the Steelers are likely to go through they may be willing to listen if the Bills offer multiple picks.

RE: No defense was stopping Mahomes there  
Mook80 : 1/23/2022 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15570993 EmpireWF said:
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Frazier won't be the HC, but it has nothing to do with the Bills D in this game.


No defense was stopping the chiefs from getting in field goal range with 13 seconds left?

If the Bills didn't play the last 2 plays the way they did, it would have taken a minor miracle for the Chiefs to get in field goal range.

Instead they made getting to the 30 as easy as they possible could. Hill wide open, Kelce wide open, both catching in stride heading up field to get big chunks
I do like the Shark Tank reference  
MetsAreBack : 1/23/2022 11:09 pm : link
Well done
Frazier wasnt going to be the coach here anyway  
Snablats : 1/23/2022 11:14 pm : link
so who cares
I don’t want anyone from that coaching staff  
trueblueinpw : 1/23/2022 11:45 pm : link
Didn’t like the game plan on either side.
Yes don't hire him for the Giants.  
St. Jimmy : 1/24/2022 12:04 am : link
Flores is their if you want the defensive route.

As far as that game, that is at McDermott feet. Guy is a former DC. Hold a lead with 13 seconds to go.
You didn't like a game plan that scored 36 points?  
Snablats : 1/24/2022 12:05 am : link
What else did you want him to do?
Josh Allen  
David B. : 1/24/2022 12:34 am : link
Torched Spags' defense just as badly. And the Giants won a SB with his defense.

Someone tell the Giants we have him down for a "NO" on Frazier.
And what about the call to kick the ball into the end zone?  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/24/2022 6:11 am : link
Make them catch the ball and run some seconds off the clock!
RE: RE: Both defenses were exhausted. The coin toss was the game.  
Bones : 1/24/2022 10:35 am : link
In comment 15570735 mvftw said:
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In comment 15570724 81_Great_Dane said:

That’s right. Allen lost the game when he called tails.







You want him as your HC...
I don't want Frazier as a HC,  
Section331 : 1/24/2022 10:38 am : link
but I don't think Buffalo's defense even played that badly. They pressured Mahomes regularly, and had enough coverage to force him to improvise. Sometimes you just have to say "what can we do"? Mahomes ability to escape the pocket and keep his eyes downfield is uncanny.
RE: #1 defense  
stoneman : 1/24/2022 10:43 am : link
In comment 15570942 AcesUp said:
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Said it in the other thread but if that isn’t a clue into where the league is and how much further it’s heading then I don’t know what is. Dominant defenses are a thing of the past. Maybe you get one for a season, realistically you really only get one for a stretch within a season, but if you are building from scratch you build with offense.


Not so in SF - all defense into the title game
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