You're dreaming if you think Daboll will survive more than 2 years if the winning doesn't start well within that timeframe.
The PLAN right now should be how do we bring instant credibility to this franchise to avoid that scenario. No offense, Daboll doesn't bring that.
Sean Payton would. Jim Harbaugh would.
disagree this year is a complete wash. Anyone with any expectations this year are crazy. Schoen is going to have to purge a lot of the roster just to be cap compliant. You just want to see some young players develop as we might have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL.
The following year there is likely to be a rookie QB in the fold. You can't expect much there so he will mostly be judged on the QB's rookie progression.
Year 3 is when he will fully get judged on W/L IMO...same was going to happen to judge until he started to self implode.
We've seen people saying that this isn't an impressive group of coaching candidates - I don't agree. There's no Belichick or Saban, but that's a long way from unimpressive.
Same thing with the QBs in this draft. Andrew Luck isn't going to be in every draft. It doesn't mean the draft sucks.
Exactly. You want a guarantee? Call the Saints and offer a first for Sean Payton, but those same fans will lose their shit over that too.
Sean, that's exactly what I think they should be doing. That, and talking to Jim Harbaugh to see what it would take for him to leave Michigan.
I guess Daboll can work out here, but if you look across the league, it's a real long shot. There are a lot more Adam Gase situations than there are McVays. And regarding the latter and his coaching tree. Every single one of those guys has a big time QB now. Staley, Taylor, McVay himself to a slightly lesser extent.
The NFL is a QB driven league, not a "scientific offensive mind" league. It's the QBs that make the coordinators into head coaches, not the other way around.
Daboll will be walking in here a first time head coach going from Josh Allen to Daniel Jones at the QB position while an angry fanbase with pitchforks being sharpened awaits success. And it had better come quickly.
Daboll being a successful HC is not a given….in fact, at best it might be 50-50. He is not a proven HC….he may a proven OC, but you have to add, a proven OC with Josh Allen as your QB.
There is absolutely no way Daniel Jones can be a Josh Allen….no way. And I’ve asked this question many times with no answer I’ve seen….would we even be interested in Daboll if Daniel Jones was the starting qb in Buffalo?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT…NO IN FACT I KNOW WE WOULDNT BE. Well guess what, for now, Daniel Jones would be his qb….what makes me think he could be successful as a HC or even an OC without Josh Allen?
Oh well….if Schoen wants his buddy from Buffalo to be our HC, it can’t be any worse than Judge, so let it play out.
Daboll is the leading candidate for every open HC job
and he will have his pick of where he wants to work next year. This is one of those times where the Giants brain trust should not over think it and pick the hottest girl at the dance.
this guy doesn't even look like he knows how to read
nope, 100% false. Judge tried to preach patience with teaching and his plan to rebuild everything and he was gone in 2 years. Now, obviously a lot of that had to do with Gettleman and Judge really regressing as a coach in year 2, but he was laughed out of the building.
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
we saw the same thing with Judge. Most everyone thought it was an inspiring out of the box choice and were willing to be patient.
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
nope, 100% false. Judge tried to preach patience with teaching and his plan to rebuild everything and he was gone in 2 years. Now, obviously a lot of that had to do with Gettleman and Judge really regressing as a coach in year 2, but he was laughed out of the building.
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
We've seen people saying that this isn't an impressive group of coaching candidates - I don't agree. There's no Belichick or Saban, but that's a long way from unimpressive.
Same thing with the QBs in this draft. Andrew Luck isn't going to be in every draft. It doesn't mean the draft sucks.
I agree on coaches. Don't agree on QB prospects from the sole perspective of there are none that were looked at as even top candidates period, let alone all-time QB prospects.
Daboll being a successful HC is not a given….in fact, at best it might be 50-50. He is not a proven HC….he may a proven OC, but you have to add, a proven OC with Josh Allen as your QB.
There is absolutely no way Daniel Jones can be a Josh Allen….no way. And I’ve asked this question many times with no answer I’ve seen….would we even be interested in Daboll if Daniel Jones was the starting qb in Buffalo?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT…NO IN FACT I KNOW WE WOULDNT BE. Well guess what, for now, Daniel Jones would be his qb….what makes me think he could be successful as a HC or even an OC without Josh Allen?
Oh well….if Schoen wants his buddy from Buffalo to be our HC, it can’t be any worse than Judge, so let it play out.
This is such a ridiculous notion. It's like people don't know that last year was not Josh Allen's rookie year and the player he is today is who he's always been.
nope, 100% false. Judge tried to preach patience with teaching and his plan to rebuild everything and he was gone in 2 years. Now, obviously a lot of that had to do with Gettleman and Judge really regressing as a coach in year 2, but he was laughed out of the building.
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
Fans will tolerate losing if there's progress and hope on the horizon. The Giants haven't made any strides in a long time and there's nothing right now in the short term to be hopeful about aside from a regime change.
we saw the same thing with Judge. Most everyone thought it was an inspiring out of the box choice and were willing to be patient.
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
we saw the same thing with Judge. Most everyone thought it was an inspiring out of the box choice and were willing to be patient.
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
Not all. Some of us were really unhappy with the process/suddenness and as it came out later, Giants were inordinately sloppy with their evaluation. Judge was not qualified and it showed.
I think if the new coach comports himself at the end of year 2 the same way Judge did, he will indeed be fired.
But for 2022 anyway, the new coach and GM will get some rope considering that they're taking over maybe the worst roster in the NFL, with no cap space, and with no quarterback.
Schoen and Daboll (or whomever) would be better served to start with an expansion draft than they would with this current situation. It is that bad.
Exactly. You want a guarantee? Call the Saints and offer a first for Sean Payton, but those same fans will lose their shit over that too.
I proposed this very idea yesterday on the Payton thread.
I would support this move in a heartbeat.
It's certainly worth calling Payton's agent to test the waters. Despite things I can't stand about him personally, he's a great HC, play-caller, strategist and developer of talent.
If we’re competitive and the team is showing progress. Daboll appears to have a good offensive mind and so I think we should see improvement from that side of the ball. Hopefully a bit more excitement and scoring. The offense was historically bad last year and it can’t get worse. That said, Daboll like any other coach will need the produce in order to cook. That’s where Schoen comes in. The Oline needs to be improved first and foremost and then we might actually see some improvement.
even when their teams don't win a ton of games. Look at the BBI reactions to the coach firings in Houston and Denver. People knew those coaches did a decent job with the rosters that they had. Same with Campbell in Detroit this year. Or in Miami. Rivera in Washinton is respected despite not winning.
Conversely, people recognize that McCarthy should be fired even though he won a lot of games.
Of course, you have to win at some point, but most people can see what's happening a judge a coach based on more factors than just the record.
I think if the new coach comports himself at the end of year 2 the same way Judge did, he will indeed be fired.
But for 2022 anyway, the new coach and GM will get some rope considering that they're taking over maybe the worst roster in the NFL, with no cap space, and with no quarterback.
Schoen and Daboll (or whomever) would be better served to start with an expansion draft than they would with this current situation. It is that bad.
Saying the roster is worse than an expansion team is ridiculous, even for you. The defense only needs a couple of players and the offense has skill players and needs a good OC and a rebuilt line, which is clearly going to happen
So defining what "an expansion team" is a bit of a futile exercise. We are probably worse than the Jags/Panthers and better than the Browns/Texans.
I think his point is that as an expansion team you have a clean cap sheet, not that the roster next season would be better than it will be if they were an expansion team.
It seems odd to me that this guy was coaching in one of the craziest games of all time until 10:00 eastern time last night, and less than 24 hours later, he's interviewing for one of the most important roles in a billion dollar organization.
If it were me, I would want ONE DAY to maybe get a little rest and prepare myself for the interview. The team charter probably landed early this morning in Buffalo
Patience has to be key but everyone is different in their reaction to it. We’ve been awful for 5 seasons in a row.
I was patient for 3-4 years with Gettleman until it was clear it was never going to improve. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long this time.
Actually patience isn't the key. Hiring competent professionals that have strong evaluation skills and think through how a roster should be built for long term success is the key.
Gettleman displayed none of that in year 1 and desperately tried to reverse course in year 2, and deserved no patience. It's okay, a lot of people missed it...
Actually patience isn't the key. Hiring competent professionals that have strong evaluation skills and think through how a roster should be built for long term success is the key.
Gettleman displayed none of that in year 1 and desperately tried to reverse course in year 2, and deserved no patience. It's okay, a lot of people missed it...
Whoever is hired as HC, he and the GM will have the same task: find and develop a franchise QB. And, hopefully, quickly. It's really that straightforward to me.
Unless you solve that problem, we really don't have the right team.
Every great coach was a coordinator or assistant at some point in his career. If the internet had existed in 1959-60 I'm sure some Packers and Cowboys fans would be screaming about "Why are we hiring this Lombardi/Landry guy when we can try to lure Paddy Driscoll away from the Bears?"
Of course, it doesn't meant that Daboll is going to work out and we really have no way of knowing that but good Lord, find better reasons to knock him other than "he's not a sure thing."
I don't want any fat head coaches. Pass on Daboll.
BBI sure is a treasure. Where else can you find a bunch of pathetic losers that couldn’t get laid in a brothel, yet are constantly ridiculing other peoples appearance?
I don't want any fat head coaches. Pass on Daboll.
BBI sure is a treasure. Where else can you find a bunch of pathetic losers that couldn’t get laid in a brothel, yet are constantly ridiculing other peoples appearance?
H'es no doubt the "hot candidate" after the way the Bills offense performed in the playoffs..nearly flawless.
But, the Bills have Josh Allen. His playmaking ability keeps drives alive. He can also make any throw which makes the offense that much harder to defend. Daniel Jones does not have that same ability.
Jones has similar size (not quite as big) and might even be a bit faster than Allen in a straight line. But, Allens movement skills and ability to buy time is 100x better. eJones is below average at evading pressure.
Allen can also throw very well on the run/off platform, something Jones is below average at. Something very subtle, but most of the great young QB's can throw on the run without slowing down (Allen, Mahomes, Herbert). Jones has to gear it down to about half speed and even then, he's not very accurate and can't get much behind it.
I'm not optimistic about Dabolls offense if Jones is the guy running it. Jones skillset is not even comparable. Josh Allen makes that Bills offense go (he is the 2021 MVP IMO). I do give Daboll credit for putting together a scheme that magnifies Allen's talents and allowed him to develop into a top 2 QB. I'm sure he can get more out of DJ, but the ceiling is MUCH lower.
for this franchise. Defense in the playoffs and a big play QB with a running game.
For those who say what about the 2011 team. Point totals for the playoffs the D let up. 3, 20. 21, 21. QB's faced. Ryan, Smith, Rodgers, Brady.
Whoever is the HC I hope they know the blueprint.
I really hope we are not hiring anyone who is trying to figure out how to win a championship by looking backwards several decades to a game that was much different than today's game.
Several decades? There was commonality in all four that are still applicable today. Physicality is the kryptonite to a high flying offense. I'll take that over relying on the hope of landing a generational QB and that they can stay healthy. Simple principles still will win today.
I think it is a different NFL from 2012. A strong defense is important and we will get to see what happens when LA or SF end up playing KC in the Super Bowl. FWIW, I see only a small chance the Bengals beat KC. But it will fun to see either NFC defense vs KC's offense.
RE: Call me football ignorant, call me superficial, but --
Before finishing the first round. I know the playoffs and competition for the coaching pool makes the process less than perfect, but this opens the door for hiring the last voice they hear.
Isn’t that how they found Judge? And maybe Shurmur?
right now since he’s getting the second interview, however they’re not over yet and we still might see another candidate get a second interview, as well.
My question about Daboll is not so much about his ability to improve the offense, but can he lead a team? How organized is he? Can he motivate players? Is he able to put together a solid staff? What style of leadership does he possess, Passive or boisterous ? There’s a lot of more intangibles that we need to know before we call him a decent candidate. Yea, I believe he can put together a decent offense, but is he Head Coach material?
RE: Call me football ignorant, call me superficial, but --
I sure hope he brings Mitch Trubiskey with him. I’d like to see he and DJ battle for the job. Also have no problem drafting another qb, maybe in round 2.
I sure hope he brings Mitch Trubiskey with him. I’d like to see he and DJ battle for the job. Also have no problem drafting another qb, maybe in round 2.
Yea, I think that would be a good idea, however I don’t see us drafting anQB in round 2 then. It’d be a wasted pick IMO. If neither QB works out next year, which is highly likely, then go QB in 2023.
I sure hope he brings Mitch Trubiskey with him. I’d like to see he and DJ battle for the job. Also have no problem drafting another qb, maybe in round 2.
Yea, I think that would be a good idea, however I don’t see us drafting anQB in round 2 then. It’d be a wasted pick IMO. If neither QB works out next year, which is highly likely, then go QB in 2023.
How about drafting a qb to groom for possibly 2023…and trade the loser of the qb battle for a draft choice?
You're dreaming if you think Daboll will survive more than 2 years if the winning doesn't start well within that timeframe.
The PLAN right now should be how do we bring instant credibility to this franchise to avoid that scenario. No offense, Daboll doesn't bring that.
Sean Payton would. Jim Harbaugh would.
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There has been no plan here for years.
You're dreaming if you think Daboll will survive more than 2 years if the winning doesn't start well within that timeframe.
The PLAN right now should be how do we bring instant credibility to this franchise to avoid that scenario. No offense, Daboll doesn't bring that.
Sean Payton would. Jim Harbaugh would.
disagree this year is a complete wash. Anyone with any expectations this year are crazy. Schoen is going to have to purge a lot of the roster just to be cap compliant. You just want to see some young players develop as we might have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL.
The following year there is likely to be a rookie QB in the fold. You can't expect much there so he will mostly be judged on the QB's rookie progression.
Year 3 is when he will fully get judged on W/L IMO...same was going to happen to judge until he started to self implode.
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People want guarantees where none exist.
We've seen people saying that this isn't an impressive group of coaching candidates - I don't agree. There's no Belichick or Saban, but that's a long way from unimpressive.
Same thing with the QBs in this draft. Andrew Luck isn't going to be in every draft. It doesn't mean the draft sucks.
Exactly. You want a guarantee? Call the Saints and offer a first for Sean Payton, but those same fans will lose their shit over that too.
Sean, that's exactly what I think they should be doing. That, and talking to Jim Harbaugh to see what it would take for him to leave Michigan.
I guess Daboll can work out here, but if you look across the league, it's a real long shot. There are a lot more Adam Gase situations than there are McVays. And regarding the latter and his coaching tree. Every single one of those guys has a big time QB now. Staley, Taylor, McVay himself to a slightly lesser extent.
The NFL is a QB driven league, not a "scientific offensive mind" league. It's the QBs that make the coordinators into head coaches, not the other way around.
Daboll will be walking in here a first time head coach going from Josh Allen to Daniel Jones at the QB position while an angry fanbase with pitchforks being sharpened awaits success. And it had better come quickly.
Daboll being a successful HC is not a given….in fact, at best it might be 50-50. He is not a proven HC….he may a proven OC, but you have to add, a proven OC with Josh Allen as your QB.
There is absolutely no way Daniel Jones can be a Josh Allen….no way. And I’ve asked this question many times with no answer I’ve seen….would we even be interested in Daboll if Daniel Jones was the starting qb in Buffalo?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT…NO IN FACT I KNOW WE WOULDNT BE. Well guess what, for now, Daniel Jones would be his qb….what makes me think he could be successful as a HC or even an OC without Josh Allen?
Oh well….if Schoen wants his buddy from Buffalo to be our HC, it can’t be any worse than Judge, so let it play out.
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
Exactly.
We've seen people saying that this isn't an impressive group of coaching candidates - I don't agree. There's no Belichick or Saban, but that's a long way from unimpressive.
Same thing with the QBs in this draft. Andrew Luck isn't going to be in every draft. It doesn't mean the draft sucks.
I agree on coaches. Don't agree on QB prospects from the sole perspective of there are none that were looked at as even top candidates period, let alone all-time QB prospects.
Daboll being a successful HC is not a given….in fact, at best it might be 50-50. He is not a proven HC….he may a proven OC, but you have to add, a proven OC with Josh Allen as your QB.
There is absolutely no way Daniel Jones can be a Josh Allen….no way. And I’ve asked this question many times with no answer I’ve seen….would we even be interested in Daboll if Daniel Jones was the starting qb in Buffalo?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT…NO IN FACT I KNOW WE WOULDNT BE. Well guess what, for now, Daniel Jones would be his qb….what makes me think he could be successful as a HC or even an OC without Josh Allen?
Oh well….if Schoen wants his buddy from Buffalo to be our HC, it can’t be any worse than Judge, so let it play out.
This is such a ridiculous notion. It's like people don't know that last year was not Josh Allen's rookie year and the player he is today is who he's always been.
Anyone who thinks Daboll can come in here and go 5-12 both years and not be immediately want gone by the majority of the fans is kidding themselves.
Fans will tolerate losing if there's progress and hope on the horizon. The Giants haven't made any strides in a long time and there's nothing right now in the short term to be hopeful about aside from a regime change.
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
let's just wait and see...
Now, we are hiring a guy who is supposedly way better than Gettleman and a coach who is supposedly way better than Judge, how are fans going to react if we still suck for 2 more years?
Not all. Some of us were really unhappy with the process/suddenness and as it came out later, Giants were inordinately sloppy with their evaluation. Judge was not qualified and it showed.
But for 2022 anyway, the new coach and GM will get some rope considering that they're taking over maybe the worst roster in the NFL, with no cap space, and with no quarterback.
Schoen and Daboll (or whomever) would be better served to start with an expansion draft than they would with this current situation. It is that bad.
Exactly. You want a guarantee? Call the Saints and offer a first for Sean Payton, but those same fans will lose their shit over that too.
I proposed this very idea yesterday on the Payton thread.
I would support this move in a heartbeat.
It's certainly worth calling Payton's agent to test the waters. Despite things I can't stand about him personally, he's a great HC, play-caller, strategist and developer of talent.
Conversely, people recognize that McCarthy should be fired even though he won a lot of games.
Of course, you have to win at some point, but most people can see what's happening a judge a coach based on more factors than just the record.
But for 2022 anyway, the new coach and GM will get some rope considering that they're taking over maybe the worst roster in the NFL, with no cap space, and with no quarterback.
Schoen and Daboll (or whomever) would be better served to start with an expansion draft than they would with this current situation. It is that bad.
Saying the roster is worse than an expansion team is ridiculous, even for you. The defense only needs a couple of players and the offense has skill players and needs a good OC and a rebuilt line, which is clearly going to happen
Reading comprehension horrendous around here lately.
Reading comprehension horrendous around here lately.
Again you think an expansion roster would be better than this one. You're an idiot, but we all know that already
I think his point is that as an expansion team you have a clean cap sheet, not that the roster next season would be better than it will be if they were an expansion team.
Reading comprehension horrendous around here lately.
You hyperbolize constantly and then snap at people for misunderstanding you lol. Foolish.
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I said it's maybe the worst in the league, and with the cap situation they'd be better starting as an expansion team (i.e. from scratch).
Reading comprehension horrendous around here lately.
You hyperbolize constantly and then snap at people for misunderstanding you lol. Foolish.
Dreadful and capped out is the worst condition a roster can be in. Zero hyperbole there.
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I said it's maybe the worst in the league, and with the cap situation they'd be better starting as an expansion team (i.e. from scratch).
Reading comprehension horrendous around here lately.
You hyperbolize constantly and then snap at people for misunderstanding you lol. Foolish.
Seems like you understand hyperbole but then pretend not to?
You serious or spoofing.
You re passing on him because of that picture? What do you find so off putting, curious?
If it were me, I would want ONE DAY to maybe get a little rest and prepare myself for the interview. The team charter probably landed early this morning in Buffalo
I was patient for 3-4 years with Gettleman until it was clear it was never going to improve. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long this time.
I was patient for 3-4 years with Gettleman until it was clear it was never going to improve. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long this time.
Actually patience isn't the key. Hiring competent professionals that have strong evaluation skills and think through how a roster should be built for long term success is the key.
Gettleman displayed none of that in year 1 and desperately tried to reverse course in year 2, and deserved no patience. It's okay, a lot of people missed it...
Actually patience isn't the key. Hiring competent professionals that have strong evaluation skills and think through how a roster should be built for long term success is the key.
Gettleman displayed none of that in year 1 and desperately tried to reverse course in year 2, and deserved no patience. It's okay, a lot of people missed it...
Whoever is hired as HC, he and the GM will have the same task: find and develop a franchise QB. And, hopefully, quickly. It's really that straightforward to me.
Unless you solve that problem, we really don't have the right team.
Of course, it doesn't meant that Daboll is going to work out and we really have no way of knowing that but good Lord, find better reasons to knock him other than "he's not a sure thing."
The fans will take losing if there's a plan they agree with.
That happens a lot here, as you'd expect being a discussion board.
Plus, if the team loses some on here will continue to use "ownership" as an excuse.
I was patient for 3-4 years with Gettleman until it was clear it was never going to improve. Hopefully it doesn’t take that long this time.
Issue with a new GM is, he's not really going to care what suffering we've gone thru as fans.
He's going to try to build the team per his plan, and that might take satm three years, with some losing.
Patience is essential.
Does BBI have it in them? LOL
BBI sure is a treasure. Where else can you find a bunch of pathetic losers that couldn’t get laid in a brothel, yet are constantly ridiculing other peoples appearance?
Classic.
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feels like our previous GM hiring. Does not feel like a real process. I hope Daboll turns out to be a great Head coach.
I'm getting these vibes as well.
In addition, the only sort of wildcard or totally unexpected name we've heard is the Bengals DC who used to be here on Shurmur's staff?
When are the Quinn and Flores interviews happening? If Daboll comes on are we expecting Graham back?
Feels like a fait accompli
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I don't want any fat head coaches. Pass on Daboll.
BBI sure is a treasure. Where else can you find a bunch of pathetic losers that couldn’t get laid in a brothel, yet are constantly ridiculing other peoples appearance?
Classic.
lol nice
But, the Bills have Josh Allen. His playmaking ability keeps drives alive. He can also make any throw which makes the offense that much harder to defend. Daniel Jones does not have that same ability.
Jones has similar size (not quite as big) and might even be a bit faster than Allen in a straight line. But, Allens movement skills and ability to buy time is 100x better. eJones is below average at evading pressure.
Allen can also throw very well on the run/off platform, something Jones is below average at. Something very subtle, but most of the great young QB's can throw on the run without slowing down (Allen, Mahomes, Herbert). Jones has to gear it down to about half speed and even then, he's not very accurate and can't get much behind it.
I'm not optimistic about Dabolls offense if Jones is the guy running it. Jones skillset is not even comparable. Josh Allen makes that Bills offense go (he is the 2021 MVP IMO). I do give Daboll credit for putting together a scheme that magnifies Allen's talents and allowed him to develop into a top 2 QB. I'm sure he can get more out of DJ, but the ceiling is MUCH lower.
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for this franchise. Defense in the playoffs and a big play QB with a running game.
For those who say what about the 2011 team. Point totals for the playoffs the D let up. 3, 20. 21, 21. QB's faced. Ryan, Smith, Rodgers, Brady.
Whoever is the HC I hope they know the blueprint.
I really hope we are not hiring anyone who is trying to figure out how to win a championship by looking backwards several decades to a game that was much different than today's game.
Several decades? There was commonality in all four that are still applicable today. Physicality is the kryptonite to a high flying offense. I'll take that over relying on the hope of landing a generational QB and that they can stay healthy. Simple principles still will win today.
I think it is a different NFL from 2012. A strong defense is important and we will get to see what happens when LA or SF end up playing KC in the Super Bowl. FWIW, I see only a small chance the Bengals beat KC. But it will fun to see either NFC defense vs KC's offense.
How do you feel about Bill Parcells? Andy Reid?
Isn’t that how they found Judge? And maybe Shurmur?
My question about Daboll is not so much about his ability to improve the offense, but can he lead a team? How organized is he? Can he motivate players? Is he able to put together a solid staff? What style of leadership does he possess, Passive or boisterous ? There’s a lot of more intangibles that we need to know before we call him a decent candidate. Yea, I believe he can put together a decent offense, but is he Head Coach material?
So you'd pass on a young Parcells or John Madden bc they're fat?
You're a fatist!
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I don't want any fat head coaches. Pass on Daboll.
So you'd pass on a young Parcells or John Madden bc they're fat?
You're a fatist!
How could I forget the walrus, Andy Reid!
Yea, I think that would be a good idea, however I don’t see us drafting anQB in round 2 then. It’d be a wasted pick IMO. If neither QB works out next year, which is highly likely, then go QB in 2023.
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I sure hope he brings Mitch Trubiskey with him. I’d like to see he and DJ battle for the job. Also have no problem drafting another qb, maybe in round 2.
Yea, I think that would be a good idea, however I don’t see us drafting anQB in round 2 then. It’d be a wasted pick IMO. If neither QB works out next year, which is highly likely, then go QB in 2023.
How about drafting a qb to groom for possibly 2023…and trade the loser of the qb battle for a draft choice?