Can the Colts count on Wentz? Thats one team that's playoffs or bust next year after that poor showing in the season finale.
Wentz is the starter but they need a quality backup. You don't want to risk a playoff run with a rookie QB or someone with no experience like Ehlinger. Enter Daniel Jones.
Colts have a young WR that due to injury has never fulfilled his promise. Parris Campbell has all world traits but has not played a full season yet. On top of that the Colts are deep at WR and he's in a walk year.
Propose trading Daniel Jones for Parris Campbell and a 4th rd selection #119.
Colts secure a quality backup and putting Jones behind that OL and skill talent? He can win games for you should Wentz implode or get hurt.
Campbell gets a shot with a new regime with no healthy bodies at WR, badly needing an X. Slayton is likely gone as is Shep.
Giants get a 4th rd pick, likely take a skill player (WR/RB/TE).
Giants select a QB on day 2 to compete with a vet backup. They will lose in 2022 regardless of who plays QB.
For a third rounder and Campbell I'd take this deal. Get Mariota or Trubisky, draft a QB Day 2, and see what happens.
Thats the team Russell Wilson should be looking to go too. But I am not sure Indy has the assets to give to Seattle.
This, and Jones has a neck injury. I would imagine the Colts will be on the lookout for someone like Aaron Rodgers. That team is built to win now.
It also can't happen this offseason because of the doubts about Jones' neck.
It also can't happen this offseason because of the doubts about Jones' neck.
A 4th round pick for a backup QB can happen. Probably not players though
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams traded their second and third round picks to Denver for Von Miller.
Because of his neck injury, I don't think Jones has any trade value. According to the article on Giants.com, the earliest he'd be cleared for contact is late spring.
Jones and Barkley will likely be here for this year and gone afterwards. Use 2022 to clear out as many bad contracts as possible, and then continue the process by letting both of them go in 2023.
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And Deal Barkley to the Rams. Barkley becomes a 1 year rental (you take a 3 for him to get him off the books). Barkley's not that expensive either this year. He's an attractive trade prospect for the right team. Compensation is a diferent story but he's pretty chak.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
Granted I haven't watched enough Rams games but based on yesterday I'd rather have Barkley than Akers, and I'm no fan of Barkley's.
If he had played better, the last GM and head coach would still be here.
That fact will not be lost on anyone taking those jobs.
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And Deal Barkley to the Rams. Barkley becomes a 1 year rental (you take a 3 for him to get him off the books). Barkley's not that expensive either this year. He's an attractive trade prospect for the right team. Compensation is a diferent story but he's pretty chak.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
Akers leaves the ball on the ground a lot, and almost singlehandedly cost the Rams the game yesterday. For his faults, Saquon is very secure with the ball.
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And Deal Barkley to the Rams. Barkley becomes a 1 year rental (you take a 3 for him to get him off the books). Barkley's not that expensive either this year. He's an attractive trade prospect for the right team. Compensation is a diferent story but he's pretty chak.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
Akers leaves the ball on the ground a lot, and almost singlehandedly cost the Rams the game yesterday. For his faults, Saquon is very secure with the ball.
Akers had 1 fumble in 150 regular season carries
Vikings, if they get out of Cousins deal
Once that bonus is paid, there’s virtually no financial advantage in trading him. Which means the next logical window to consider a trade is after the draft.
The Giants have the firepower to move up into round one and get a target who falls. I suspect that’s a real possibility.
Then you can trade Jones for a conditional pick to a team who needs a backup/lottery ticket.
Agreed. I think Jones will have a market for sure. No idea what the pricetag will be though.
It also can't happen this offseason because of the doubts about Jones' neck.
The health hurdle is the issue.
The Eagles did give up a 6th pick for Minshew, who was starting for Jacksonville until he got hurt in 2020. I'd take a 6th for Jones right now.
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And Deal Barkley to the Rams. Barkley becomes a 1 year rental (you take a 3 for him to get him off the books). Barkley's not that expensive either this year. He's an attractive trade prospect for the right team. Compensation is a diferent story but he's pretty chak.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
Akers leaves the ball on the ground a lot, and almost singlehandedly cost the Rams the game yesterday. For his faults, Saquon is very secure with the ball.
Akers isn't afraid to run inside the tackles.
But then the Giants have no quarterback.
Willis will be first quarterback taken after watching Mahomes and Allen. He is the only one in the draft who has that potential. Not saying he will reach his potential but teams will be looking for the next Allen/Mahomes.
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In comment 15571767 DavidinBMNY said:
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And Deal Barkley to the Rams. Barkley becomes a 1 year rental (you take a 3 for him to get him off the books). Barkley's not that expensive either this year. He's an attractive trade prospect for the right team. Compensation is a diferent story but he's pretty chak.
QB is the most important position in football. Giants had no one behind Jones at all. Now if the Giants could get a 1 for Jones (not happening) then I'd do it, but for a 3rd rd pick they can get that back in a comp pick for the following year.
The Rams already have Akers. Why would they give up a 3rd round pick for Barkley on a one year rental?
Akers leaves the ball on the ground a lot, and almost singlehandedly cost the Rams the game yesterday. For his faults, Saquon is very secure with the ball.
Akers isn't afraid to run inside the tackles.
This is a BBI myth. The Giants have Barkley running between the tackles 90% of the time, and he was getting yardage. The last game he ran for 5 yds per carry, and 100 yds, between the tackles.
The market is not as efficient as you are implying. It takes one HC/GM to want a QB. In the absence of someone who believes Jones can be the answer, then you will not get a 2nd for Jones.
That should be the comp if healthy. At least the starting point. But my guess is the market will think Carolina overpaid for Darnold and want less for a player of similar skills.
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Jones would only net a 4th?
That should be the comp if healthy. At least the starting point. But my guess is the market will think Carolina overpaid for Darnold and want less for a player of similar skills.
read my comment just above your comment. The market is one team. Maybe two. And if they don't have faith in Jones, we will never get a 2nd.
Don't rule out their seeing the offense as the major issue and retain Graham for another year to evaluate either. The defense played hard for him even after we were out of playoff hunt and in many games they kept the opponent to a winable score. It's hard to play lights out for 60 minutes when getting absolutely zero on the other side of the ball and lacking elite pass rusher.
That doesn't mean commitment to either guy. It's just an acknowledgment that despite what people posting on BBs believe, it is very hard to evaluate an organization top to bottom from 50k foot view and the overhaul is going to take more than one year.
I laughed while reading these comments. The haters will be miserable if Jones is here next year.
It was his first year reunited with Reich, and it makes sense they'll be better together next year.
They certainly could be in the market for drafting a QB, though.
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But here’s a list of teams we should trade him to. How does that work?
I laughed while reading these comments. The haters will be miserable if Jones is here next year.
You enjoy watching bad QB play?