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The Giants are the most injured team in the league since ‘09

eric2425ny : 1/24/2022 11:36 am
Crazy. I guarantee a lot of it is the shit field we play on. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence MetLife opened in 2010.
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I read an article yesterday that talked about  
montanagiant : 1/24/2022 11:37 am : link
How the Bills do not do any squat exercises and that they were the least injured team in the NFL since starting that
Just bad luck huh?  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/24/2022 11:46 am : link
lol.
I go back and forth  
Biteymax22 : 1/24/2022 11:57 am : link
on whether the injuries are something with the training staff, turf, weather in NJ or bad luck. I was watching one of Bobby Skinner's OLine reports one week and couldn't get over how many times a pulling guard, TE or fullback ran right into the back of Andrew Thomas's legs.

I'm really starting to get on the boat that bad players find ways to get themselves and their teammates injured.
Stopped getting pushed around so often  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 11:59 am : link
and do some pushing...
If it's the turf  
uther99 : 1/24/2022 12:00 pm : link
the Jets would also be highly injured, and they're not.
Jets ranking  
bluepepper : 1/24/2022 12:00 pm : link
would be an interesting data point.
It's not the field  
Bryanjints : 1/24/2022 12:01 pm : link
It's the practice facility. If it were the field the Jets would be right with the Giants.

Training camp is at the practice facility too. It seems we have injuries every single preseason that just railroad us in the first half of the season.

If Schoen really has carte Blanche then there should be a change to either facilities or medical staff cause those things need to shoulder some blame.
Time for Ronnie Barnes  
Maryland Blows : 1/24/2022 12:07 pm : link
and the rest of his staff to go. Time for new blood.
RE: It's not the field  
BillT : 1/24/2022 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15571806 Bryanjints said:
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It's the practice facility. If it were the field the Jets would be right with the Giants.

I believe the practice facility fields are grass.
RE: If it's the turf  
eric2425ny : 1/24/2022 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15571801 uther99 said:
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the Jets would also be highly injured, and they're not.


The Jets numbers aren’t stellar either according to the diagram. They are somewhere in the 15th range for missed games. Still top half of the league.
atlanta is the least and they also have fieldturf  
Eric on Li : 1/24/2022 12:30 pm : link
both their new stadium and the old georgia dome had field turf - which is what metlife installed in 2020.

minnesota is 2nd least and they had UBU speed turf in both of their stadiums - which is what metlife had installed pre-2020.

obviously there are probably some more detailed analysis that would be required - like specifically which field surface leg injuries specifically occurred on - but im sure that's been done by both the league and the NFLPA. injuries are in nobodies business interest.
RE: Time for Ronnie Barnes  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/24/2022 12:32 pm : link
In comment 15571822 Maryland Blows said:
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and the rest of his staff to go. Time for new blood.
Maybe, but Barnes only deals with players after they are injured. It is a different group (strength and conditioning) that works on preventing injuries.
also just a few of the meaningful ones off the top of my head  
Eric on Li : 1/24/2022 12:42 pm : link
barkley tore his knee in chicago on grass.
cruz tore his knee in philly on grass.
beckham broke his leg (so probably not field surface related).
jpp was obviously not field surface related.
nicks got a jones fracture in OTAs in may after the super bowl (presumably on a grass practice field).

i mention those guys just because there were probably 1-2 pro bowl seasons per year missed between them due to injury every year of the decade. sometimes there's just bad luck.
I don't think it's necessarily . . . .  
TC : 1/24/2022 12:59 pm : link
one thing or another, but rather a number of things, and often those things in combination.

I've watched too many Giants players pull up lame at Metlife (The ugliest newer stadium in the league?) while untouched, then to be hobbled or IR'ed for the rest of the season not to think the surface on which they play is a factor.

But I also think training and diet likely play roles in the problem too. Enough calories and the right amino acids play vital roles in the body being able to regenerate itself. Toxins impair the body's ability to do so. How much party-heartying does proximity to the Big Apple encourage?

Both rest and sleep are essential for the body to heal itself. This means both getting enough sleep, and not over-exercising. I.e., working out too much with inadequate rest for regeneration between workouts is a virtually guaranteed route to injury.

This past season when the Giants took the field I was struck by many players looking both very lean, but not particularly muscular compared to their opponents. This suggests to me that some of the above is in play. And, yes, maybe our opponents are better at sneaking in PED's which decrease the time needed for the body to regenerate.
Carter & Martinez  
Professor Falken : 1/24/2022 1:02 pm : link
both non-contact on turf.
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