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Nick Gates optimistic his Giants career will continue

Archer : 1/24/2022 1:26 pm
Nick is one of my favorite Giants and I hope that he can make it back.

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These days, Gates is optimistic his football career will continue on. The Giants are hopeful as well. On Monday, Gates updated reporters on his progress.

“I’m doing good,” Gates said. “I’m making good steps and good strides in my rehab. I can’t really tell you a specific timeline on when I’m going to be back or not. I’m just taking it day by day, just trying to get better each day and just listening to what the trainers are saying.

“My plan is to get back on the field as fast as possible. I don’t know if it’s going to be this year or whatever, but just taking it day by day.”

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He’s got the toughness of Seubert.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/24/2022 1:27 pm : link
Let’s hope he makes it back on the field like RS
RE: He’s got the toughness of Seubert.  
rnargi : 1/24/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15572008 Big Blue '56 said:
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Let’s hope he makes it back on the field like RS


Exactly how I feel. Reminds me so much of Richie
Ah... reading reports of Seubert  
ATL_Giants : 1/24/2022 1:34 pm : link
getting in scraps at camp.... freakin' hilarious.
cap space  
Hilary : 1/24/2022 1:34 pm : link
Gates I believe has 2.5 million cap space this year. If he has a chance to play again even if it is 2023 I would keep him on the team.
Archer  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/24/2022 1:36 pm : link
I posted that quote a couple of weeks ago.

IMO, that doesn't sound good. (not sure if he will be back even this year)

yeah, it's the story from  
Bill in UT : 1/24/2022 1:44 pm : link
Jan. 11
Sorry I did not see your post  
Archer : 1/24/2022 1:46 pm : link
I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.
Really prayin for Gates.  
Dnew15 : 1/24/2022 1:49 pm : link
would love to see him come back.

He seems like a hard worker and a great guy.
RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/24/2022 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15572053 Archer said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.


No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.
RE: RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
Johnny5 : 1/24/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15572064 Eric from BBI said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.

So ridiculous that they moved him the way they did.
Agreed Eric  
Four Aces : 1/24/2022 2:00 pm : link
Biggest disappointment of the season... he was turning into a very good player on the line. Huge loss.
I think we read too much into it  
Payasdaddy : 1/24/2022 2:01 pm : link
It’s still only January, have to see where he is in June mini camp
Not expecting him to be practicing at that point but the progress over next 4 months is key
I don’t expect him to play in September but possibly available for our 2022 playoffs run. :)
Or not
 
christian : 1/24/2022 2:06 pm : link
I’m pulling for him. But there is a decision to be made. He’s got 2M in new dollars coming his way, and then he’s an UFA.
Don't Let This Deter Drafting OL  
varco : 1/24/2022 2:08 pm : link
Nice that he is optimistic and I really wish him a full and speedy recovery. However, the OL remains a glaring weakness and if a stud center / guard becomes available in the draft, don't pass him by, hoping that Gates makes it back. Safer to assume Gates will not be ready and be pleasantly surprised. We never have enough OL depth.
He's got a tough road ahead of him,  
Section331 : 1/24/2022 2:09 pm : link
but we know he'll put the work in. I wish him all the luck in the world, I'd LOVE to see him back.
The OL is such a wreck...  
Dnew15 : 1/24/2022 2:14 pm : link
they have one legit NFL lineman they can count on their roster under contract right now.

That's insane.
Would be my favorite Giant ...  
Beezer : 1/24/2022 2:20 pm : link
... if he continued. Really hoping he can come back and have a career.
RE: He’s got the toughness of Seubert.  
EricJ : 1/24/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15572008 Big Blue '56 said:
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Let’s hope he makes it back on the field like RS


+1 exactly what I was thinking with the comparison to Richie
okay maybe we give DG a small win...  
EricJ : 1/24/2022 2:22 pm : link
when it comes to Gates
Really pulling for him!  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/24/2022 2:44 pm : link
.
I'd expect them to pay him  
JonC : 1/24/2022 2:47 pm : link
and also plan as if he won't be able to play.
RE: okay maybe we give DG a small win...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15572132 EricJ said:
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when it comes to Gates


Yes, that column needed something...
RE: RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
Walker Gillette : 1/24/2022 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15572064 Eric from BBI said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.

Me too. The loss of Gates and Lemieux and the retirements of their backups in training camp was doesn't get the attention it deserves. It was an absolute disaster and left us with Price, Skura, martin and Bredeson and we saw ow that turned out! If you want to dig a little deeper you can add the loss of Kyle Murphy who the staff for whatever that is worth was supposedly very high on.
Of all the horrible things that happened to the Giants in 2021  
arniefez : 1/24/2022 3:31 pm : link
IMO Gates having such a serious injury was the worst. He was developing into a good center with the kind of playing demeanor the Giants need more of.

I'm taking it on blind faith that our new GM will not count on him for 2022 but will leave the light on in case he's ready. I'm also taking it on blind faith that our new GM will prioritize and do everything in his power to upgrade the OL and the front 7 on defense.
RE: RE: RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15572236 Walker Gillette said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.


Me too. The loss of Gates and Lemieux and the retirements of their backups in training camp was doesn't get the attention it deserves. It was an absolute disaster and left us with Price, Skura, martin and Bredeson and we saw ow that turned out! If you want to dig a little deeper you can add the loss of Kyle Murphy who the staff for whatever that is worth was supposedly very high on.


Gates was a loss.

But if you really to want to point to the disaster regarding the OL, it was coming out of Free Agency and the Draft having lost Zeitler and only adding a jag in Zach Fulton.

The Front Office took a bad risk their existing OL unit would be sufficient, and it failed miserably...
Not at that  
MtDizzle : 1/24/2022 3:43 pm : link
Salary. No thanks.
I Like Gates. Good player  
noro9 : 1/24/2022 3:59 pm : link
But what is he supposed to say? I'm done?
They can;t bring him back and pay him $2M next year  
BigBlueNH : 1/24/2022 5:19 pm : link
to rehab, and then he's a FA in 2023. Only way it happens, IMO, is if they extend him into 2023 and 2024 with non-guaranteed $. If you can't do that, you have to cut him.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
Walker Gillette : 1/24/2022 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15572337 Jimmy Googs said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.


Me too. The loss of Gates and Lemieux and the retirements of their backups in training camp was doesn't get the attention it deserves. It was an absolute disaster and left us with Price, Skura, martin and Bredeson and we saw ow that turned out! If you want to dig a little deeper you can add the loss of Kyle Murphy who the staff for whatever that is worth was supposedly very high on.



Gates was a loss.

But if you really to want to point to the disaster regarding the OL, it was coming out of Free Agency and the Draft having lost Zeitler and only adding a jag in Zach Fulton.

The Front Office took a bad risk their existing OL unit would be sufficient, and it failed miserably...

They certainly placed way too much faith in Solder/Peart and Hernandez that is for sure. I think that maybe part of that was a belief that they were in decent to good shape at LT,LG & OC. When two out of three of those positions became gaping holes the whole thing was a wreck!
Gates  
stretch234 : 1/24/2022 7:21 pm : link
As much as we like to look at Seubert, he missed remainder of 03, all of 04 and 75% of 05. He missed 38 straight games

You hope Gates can make it back but you have to plan as if he is done
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Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15572684 Walker Gillette said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.


Me too. The loss of Gates and Lemieux and the retirements of their backups in training camp was doesn't get the attention it deserves. It was an absolute disaster and left us with Price, Skura, martin and Bredeson and we saw ow that turned out! If you want to dig a little deeper you can add the loss of Kyle Murphy who the staff for whatever that is worth was supposedly very high on.



Gates was a loss.

But if you really to want to point to the disaster regarding the OL, it was coming out of Free Agency and the Draft having lost Zeitler and only adding a jag in Zach Fulton.

The Front Office took a bad risk their existing OL unit would be sufficient, and it failed miserably...


They certainly placed way too much faith in Solder/Peart and Hernandez that is for sure. I think that maybe part of that was a belief that they were in decent to good shape at LT,LG & OC. When two out of three of those positions became gaping holes the whole thing was a wreck!


The OL was as much as a wreck as the morons that put it together.

If anything, they needed to be overly concerned with it and invest heavily versus a theme of I hope it works out. Their own self-evaluation on prior OL decisions should have told them that.

If they ever did a self-evaluation that is...
RE: Gates  
Jimmy Googs : 1/24/2022 7:47 pm : link
In comment 15572859 stretch234 said:
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As much as we like to look at Seubert, he missed remainder of 03, all of 04 and 75% of 05. He missed 38 straight games

You hope Gates can make it back but you have to plan as if he is done


Stretch - that's right.

A prudent triage plan on the OL suggests do not assume Gates, Peart and even Lemieux are available this season. And guys like Hernandez are Solder done as Giants, and Price, Bredeson and Skura are below average as reserves.

That leaves a whole lot to get done on the OL this offseason and next.

* Have to grab a Guard and probably a new Swing Tackle in Free Agency. This is a Must.
* Really need to add a Tackle and Center by the end of Rd 3 in this Draft. Another Must.
* Figure out whether Bredeson or Skura is worth keeping if Lemieux isn't going to be ready by Sept
* In 2023 - put another Guard and probably a developmental Tackle on roster.





RE: RE: Sorry I did not see your post  
DavidinBMNY : 1/24/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15572064 Eric from BBI said:
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I also heard Gates on a Talkin Giants PodCast. He sounded even more optimistic than the actual press release.

I don't know if it was genuine but he was ramping up his training and looking forward to coming back.



No worries, but his injury is one of the things that bugged me most about last season. He looked like a foundational piece and now his career is in doubt.
how much better would this team have been if Gates played all year? I honestly think they win more games.
Worst moment of the season: Gates getting injured  
Vanzetti : 1/24/2022 10:31 pm : link


Best moment of the season: Gates getting a standing ovation. You could see he was surprised. I think he thought the fans did not even know who he was. Never saw a guy leaving the field with that severe an injury smiling. I got a little choked up at the time.
I hope he makes it back on the field  
eli4life : 1/25/2022 1:59 am : link
But I’m hoping they come out of this draft with at least a c and rt. Enough pussyfooting around it and just fix the damn thing already
I agree that was a bad injury and a very tough loss.  
Giant John : 1/25/2022 3:35 am : link
I’d keep him on the roster though. If anybody can do this it Gates.
I wish him the best of luck ....  
short lease : 1/25/2022 7:56 am : link
but, that injury reminded me of Theismann's MNF leg break.

If he makes it back into a training camp anywhere I will be surprised.

Hoping for he best Nick Gates ... !!!
What in the world is optimistic about what Gates actually said?  
chick310 : 1/25/2022 9:44 am : link
Those comments are basically telling the NY Giants to go find another solution at Center this season.

Wish him the best on his recovery but the Giants may be looking to cut bait with Gates as part of their rebuilding efforts and whatever cap relief his deal offers.
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