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Source: Giants requested an interview with Cowboys’ Joe Whitt Jr. for their defensive coordinator position. Whitt, 43, is Dallas’ defensive passing game coordinator/secondary coach. Worked under Dan Quinn in Atlanta (2020) & Dallas (2021). Quinn interviewed for NYG HC job today.
Whitt also worked with Giants DC Pat Graham (2018) — now a Giants head coaching candidate — and Giants LB Blake Martinez (2016-18) in Green Bay.
The Ravens and Seahawks already requested DC interviews with Whitt, as well.
'I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the coaching acumen on Joe Whitt Jr.'
How about William Santiago?
We don't even know if Abrams is out of the picture yet.
It also seems like Mara was looking for any excuse to keep Judge despite the fact he was melting down by season's end.
My point? The Maras are perfectly capable of screwing this up.
What from those tweets makes you assume it was Mara?
I think you should take the advice. It was a silly comment that will churn the knuckleheads into a frenzy. Beyond silly. Give us 1, just 1 reason that leads you to think Mara would be picking some guy named Whitt from Dallas to interview for DC on his own out of the clear blue sky?
After interviewing GM candidates last week, the Giants started requesting permission to interview HC candidates. Just like last week, it means a couple candidates named some people they'd like to talk to for the DC position. Don't be surprised when OC requests go out.
'I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the coaching acumen on Joe Whitt Jr.'
Mara definitely knows Whitt.
Don't ask me why though, as I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of football knowledge that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I don't trust the Maras. They aren't good at this. They literally have made the wrong decision every time there has been an important decision to make. So the more they get involved, the more I get nervous.
There is a group of people here who think Mara has changed based on a few lines in a press release issued by Pat Hanlon.
I don't trust anything right now.
Anybody know, btw, how long Schoen's contract is?
I don't trust the Maras. They aren't good at this. They literally have made the wrong decision every time there has been an important decision to make. So the more they get involved, the more I get nervous.
There is a group of people here who think Mara has changed based on a few lines in a press release issued by Pat Hanlon.
I completely agree. Ian OConnor has pretty much confirmed this. Schoen was the choice since November. They just went out of the immediate family.
I don't trust anything right now.
I don't trust the Maras. They aren't good at this. They literally have made the wrong decision every time there has been an important decision to make. So the more they get involved, the more I get nervous.
There is a group of people here who think Mara has changed based on a few lines in a press release issued by Pat Hanlon.
I don't trust anything right now.
No need for the hard ass talk. They shouldn’t be trusted. However, I feel like Schoen should be given a clean slate.
‘I hope Mara isn’t pulling the same shit’ is much different than guessing he is. Your words have weight on the board, for some.
I also don't think a simple interview request makes us "screwed as fans".
Giants fans in general tend to be negative even in the best of times, but after the last several years they are bordering on insufferable.
I also don't think a simple interview request makes us "screwed as fans".
Giants fans in general tend to be negative even in the best of times, but after the last several years they are bordering on insufferable.
Evidence? Ownership forced Garrett on Judge. That just happened. Does that mean they are still doing it? Of course not, but does a zebra change his stripes? We shall see.
Why do you think Giants fans have become really negative? Jesus.
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Sounds like Mara is picking coaches again.
Sigh.
Don’t believe it
'I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the coaching acumen on Joe Whitt Jr.'
Makes no sense. One minute the Mara's are the dumbest people on the planet, the next they know the coordinators of every team and are savvy enough to pluck away an up and coming coordinator before everyone else can.
Which is it because it can't be both.
While the good teams are trying to close the gap between themselves and teams like the Chiefs and Bills, the Giants can't even close the gap between themselves and the Eagles and WFT.
We are so far from being a serious playoff contender, it isn't funny. Ownership ran this team into the ground. I honestly think by year end, this team could not beat anyone, including Jacksonville.
'I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the coaching acumen on Joe Whitt Jr.'
Of course not.
Circling back on this since some of you asked on it + I gave some thoughts on the idea before confirming.
Now I'm told the Giants have not requested permission to interview Cowboys defensive assistant Joe Whitt for the defensive coordinator's job. So that's where that stands.
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He probably learned of him for the first time during these HC interviews so I can't imagine Mara has been scheming for awhile to get Whitt here.
'I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about the coaching acumen on Joe Whitt Jr.'
Makes no sense. One minute the Mara's are the dumbest people on the planet, the next they know the coordinators of every team and are savvy enough to pluck away an up and coming coordinator before everyone else can.
Which is it because it can't be both.
Pay no attention. It’s bullshit
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Circling back on this since some of you asked on it + I gave some thoughts on the idea before confirming.
Now I'm told the Giants have not requested permission to interview Cowboys defensive assistant Joe Whitt for the defensive coordinator's job. So that's where that stands.
😂😂
I wouldn't be shocked?
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and immediately rescinded to save face. Smart PR right there.
I wouldn't be shocked?
Its something a smart man would do, or not?
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and immediately rescinded to save face. Smart PR right there.
I wouldn't be shocked?
More likely is that Pat Leonard thought to himself: "how can I get as many Giant fans as possible to freak out" then tweeted that out
Maybe like Mara, someone may need a vacay.
Not to dismiss all the eff ups JM has had in the past six years, but it was pointed out Schoen was given free reign to sort this out. Let Schoen do his thing. I am not a fan of Daboll, but there isn't much out there that hasn't been recycled having failed before. If Daboll really did have a hand in getting Josh Allen to become what he has, he should not be dismissed out of hand.
Maybe like Mara, someone may need a vacay.
Not to dismiss all the eff ups JM has had in the past six years, but it was pointed out Schoen was given free reign to sort this out. Let Schoen do his thing. I am not a fan of Daboll, but there isn't much out there that hasn't been recycled having failed before. If Daboll really did have a hand in getting Josh Allen to become what he has, he should not be dismissed out of hand.
Yeah, I need the vacation.
10 years of you guys crying like bitches on game threads, wanting to have everyone fired and everyone cut, but when it comes to fixing the real problem, you don't want to address it.
Look at BB'56. Every year he skedaddles when the Giants are 1-6. Comes back at the end of the season to tell us it isn't that bad. Rinse. Repeat.
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Eric causes a feeding frenzy and then, poof. It is gone.
Maybe like Mara, someone may need a vacay.
Not to dismiss all the eff ups JM has had in the past six years, but it was pointed out Schoen was given free reign to sort this out. Let Schoen do his thing. I am not a fan of Daboll, but there isn't much out there that hasn't been recycled having failed before. If Daboll really did have a hand in getting Josh Allen to become what he has, he should not be dismissed out of hand.
Yeah, I need the vacation.
10 years of you guys crying like bitches on game threads, wanting to have everyone fired and everyone cut, but when it comes to fixing the real problem, you don't want to address it.
Look at BB'56. Every year he skedaddles when the Giants are 1-6. Comes back at the end of the season to tell us it isn't that bad. Rinse. Repeat.
Crying like bitches? Are you not one of the folks bitching about a hypothetical interview, which in no way can you prove is led by Mara?
They’ve been off schedule between GM/HC for a decade, which has led to an over influence of Mara, yes. But now that they’ve fired both and are in the process of hiring a new pair, shouldn’t we see how it all unfolds before jumping to conclusions? Only thing they can do, for you to back off your stance, is sell the team, which isn’t happening.
Also, it’s funny you talk about everyone bitching, yet, you’re complaining and bitching to us like we make the fucking decisions lol
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Eric causes a feeding frenzy and then, poof. It is gone.
Maybe like Mara, someone may need a vacay.
Not to dismiss all the eff ups JM has had in the past six years, but it was pointed out Schoen was given free reign to sort this out. Let Schoen do his thing. I am not a fan of Daboll, but there isn't much out there that hasn't been recycled having failed before. If Daboll really did have a hand in getting Josh Allen to become what he has, he should not be dismissed out of hand.
Yeah, I need the vacation.
10 years of you guys crying like bitches on game threads, wanting to have everyone fired and everyone cut, but when it comes to fixing the real problem, you don't want to address it.
Look at BB'56. Every year he skedaddles when the Giants are 1-6. Comes back at the end of the season to tell us it isn't that bad. Rinse. Repeat.
I would tell you what I think of you, but I really don’t want to be banned
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Eric causes a feeding frenzy and then, poof. It is gone.
Maybe like Mara, someone may need a vacay.
Not to dismiss all the eff ups JM has had in the past six years, but it was pointed out Schoen was given free reign to sort this out. Let Schoen do his thing. I am not a fan of Daboll, but there isn't much out there that hasn't been recycled having failed before. If Daboll really did have a hand in getting Josh Allen to become what he has, he should not be dismissed out of hand.
Yeah, I need the vacation.
10 years of you guys crying like bitches on game threads, wanting to have everyone fired and everyone cut, but when it comes to fixing the real problem, you don't want to address it.
Look at BB'56. Every year he skedaddles when the Giants are 1-6. Comes back at the end of the season to tell us it isn't that bad. Rinse. Repeat.
I would tell you what I think of you, but I really don’t want to be banned
Exactly. He’ll look at his donation tracking sheet and make a sweeping cut down to 53
The Giants are starting over with a new young GM who then just hired to re-do everything. You seem to really hate the Maras. They aren’t going to sell the team so I’m not sure what else you want from them.
The Giants are starting over with a new young GM who then just hired to re-do everything. You seem to really hate the Maras. They aren’t going to sell the team so I’m not sure what else you want from them.
100%. Well said. It’s obvious the losing and the fact that the end of the situation isn’t in sight, is getting to him, along with many of us
The Giants are starting over with a new young GM who then just hired to re-do everything. You seem to really hate the Maras. They aren’t going to sell the team so I’m not sure what else you want from them.
Start winning. It’s that simple.
I don't trust the Maras. They aren't good at this. They literally have made the wrong decision every time there has been an important decision to make. So the more they get involved, the more I get nervous.
There is a group of people here who think Mara has changed based on a few lines in a press release issued by Pat Hanlon.
I don't trust anything right now.
Eric, sadly, you are 100 pct correct. It would be encouraging to see actions speak louder than press releases during this coaching search. No coach is a perfect candidate, especially with this team, so we have can only hope that a new thought process is allowed to evolve.
Well now you’re the one that sounds like a jaded ex. So when will you actual trust things again? If Schoen wins a super bowl?
I don’t get it really. I mean we all want the Giants to win. Are you saying you’re not going to “trust Mara” until they start winning? What if Schoen picks the wrong players? Is that his fault? Or is that Mara’s fault?
Because Mara just hired the guy that basically everyone involved in football says was a great hire.
The Giants are starting over with a new young GM who then just hired to re-do everything. You seem to really hate the Maras. They aren’t going to sell the team so I’m not sure what else you want from them.
I have some small reservations about going Schoen (really wanted Peters), but I'm ready to see how things play out to demonstrate that Mara has indeed turned over this new lead.
But I completely understand why Eric finds ownership untrustworthy and isn't ready to give them the benefit of the doubt yet. And there are certainly plenty of reasons why that makes sense, even despite the declaration that the GM is now really in charge of all things football.
So - all I’m saying is - if he ends up missing on the first round this year - that is not John Mara’s fault.
If we hire Daboll and he flops, that is Schoen’s fault.
So - all I’m saying is - if he ends up missing on the first round this year - that is not John Mara’s fault.
Do you know if Schoen has had any link to Fangio? Or does Daboll? I can live with Graham as DC but would love Fangio
This gives them some connectivity with these candidates. Mara will have to stop himself from screwing things up, but ultimately he writes the checks and he is entitled to form an opinion regardless of how much we loathe thinking about it,
What’s the connection there? He was with the Ravens?
So - all I’m saying is - if he ends up missing on the first round this year - that is not John Mara’s fault.
I think Wednesday's press conference will be an early tell into the Schoen Era. I'm looking forward to his presentation and - hopefully - good, probing questions from the press.