Anyone thinks Brady hangs it up?

He floated the ball quite a few times

missing Godwin and Brown and a banged up OL.

He needs that team to be full strength.

he’s still top tier when everything is going right but that was a pathetic performance from their entire offense. 2 freak turnovers gave them life, and I think Tom knows that.

Of turmoil behind the scenes this season. They also gave some tough CAP questions this year and perhaps Brady isn't feeling the continued success after this season and an upcoming season of major changes..

and he definitely sounded like he was thinking about calling it.

Brady admittedly said no decision coming soon and he needs to take some time, frustrated in how yesterday went down, didn't like the penalty called on him, etc.

Decent career, if it's really over...

but by his body. Remember that Jeff Feagles said that he retired when he started his offseason workouts and his body wouldn't recover like it used to. Inevitably, that is going to happen to Brady. It happens to everyone. He can delay that day with training and nutrition, but eventually it will arrive.

He'll start working out and won't feel right for 2-3 days afterward, then try again, and feel the same. And that will be the day he'll have to hang it up.

.....any possibility he goes to San Fran (or another destination) if he actually does continue.

I think the Bucs are going to have a ton of personnel changes which could make Brady a bit uncomfortable.

I think the Rams game probably pissed him off for a lot of reasons. I think he doesn't want to go out like that.

think the Bucs will be contenders next year.

Just like Rodgers in GB.

he’d be willing to go out on a loss.
Winning can consume the reality of the other factors: the alleged turmoil, the FAs, and bodies can break down between January and July( we see it with RBs suddenly losing the half step).
A great career, a new clothing line, $1B, nice family, a Hollywood appearance, etc. And sooner or later the OL will break down, the WRs will be covered close, and a Defensive player will be thirsty to be the guy that forces him out to the sideline, maybe permanently.

Brady won't have confidence in the offense without Gronk given the lack of highly skilled wideouts and a problematic O line.

In comment 15572789 montanagiant said:

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He floated the ball quite a few times

He had games like that here and there for the last few seasons, and then the next game he's out there throwing frozen ropes right on the money.

I think he'll come back for one more year. It will be sad to see him go, best player i've ever seen regardless of sport

won't leave until Brady does. They will retire together but Brady will decide whenever that is

Brady is the GOAT. I really do not think many people will debate this. His longevity playing at a championship level is astounding.

He was undone by his OL. If Wirfs play who knows?

That said he missed more throws this year then i remember. Nothing for a normal QB but for him, I thought he dropped off visibly this year.

I think he'll be leaning to continue playing. I think most people would consider him in the 5-10 range of QBs and towards the bottom of that tier now.

He has commented in the past about wife and family. His kids are fairly young and time marches on so I think that may outweigh his football goals. I mean really- what else does he need to prove?

As a fan of football watching him is a joy

Not sure he's done playing.

He had one of his best seasons ever
statistically this year.

But he should just retire and be thankful he’s still in one piece after 20 years in the gladiators arena

Something about his reaction yesterday when the Rams won that seemed "off" to me. More quizzical and bemused than dejected, and given his comments after the game and again today on his SXM show - seems like this might actually be it and he's okay with it.

Factor in too that he did that "Man in the Arena" doc for ESPN+ this year, given its retrospective nature it seems like something he would do if he knew this was the end of the line.

TB has alot of FAs. They wont be quite as strong next year. I can't see him starting over anywhere else - unlike 2 years ago, I don;t see an obvious team that is just a QB away from being one of the top teams. Maybe Indy. But the AFC is less atractive because you gotta go thru 2 teams with the best QBs in the game: KC and Buffalo.

Then Grand Children.

With Gray, he definitely talked more about the importance of family and that it is a family decision. I think he’s going to play out the final year of his contract next year because he is a junkie for competition and can still play at a high level and then hang it up.

So no….I think his goal is to be the first to play at 50.

it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire

beat on Sirius a while back. He felt Arians would call it quits when Brady did. Doesn’t have it him him to start over with a new QB. Tampa could be heading into some tough times.

he might try and push for a trade to SF, would be ironic they could make it happen, Brady for Jimmy G etc.

No

for another Super Bowl run with their negotiated signings. They almost pulled it off this year with a strong team but I think certain injuries like Godwin got the best of them.

Not sure how those respective contracts stack up this year, but at least their division is still pretty weak.

and he's coming off one of the best years of his career. I think he comes back to make one last run at it.

In comment 15573315 EricJ said:

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it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire

A little harsh. When you’ve had as much success and made as much money as Brady has and you have three kids you barely see for half the year, and you also want to be able to enjoy that wealth into your old age, it’s totally reasonable to question whether to continue. Look at all the former players who have major physical and cognitive problems.

He has 1 more year on his deal. He said many times he wants to play til he's 45. Next year he will be 45. PLus, I dont think he wants to go out with such a bitter taste in his mouth as that loss left. I think he will play next year and do his best to convince Gronkowski to come back as well, then both will ride off into the sunset after next season regardless of what happens

I would if i was him. Why stop playing if you can still play.

In comment 15573315 EricJ said:

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it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire

What's wrong with you? Seriously?

He's coming off a very good season, is in great shape, and has the year on his deal. I think ifntheu won this year, he calla it quits. But, he is ultra competitive and walking away now would probably eat at him.

I think that confused state he was in after the game was still she'll shock from the way it ended. From the improbable comeback to tie it to a heartbreaking loss in a flash. I would be shocked if he was comfortable enough to quit with that as his last game.

As for Gronk, he even said he wouldn't necessarily be done even if Brady is. His time off really seemed to rejuvenate him mentally.

it's just a matter of his willingness to spend another year away from his family, when he truly doesn't need to at all.

Playing football at this point is as much selfish as anything else. He doesn't need the money, he doesn't need to subject himself to any more injury. He's got a future outside of the sport.

I can't imagine how difficult it will be for him to finally stop playing, especially knowing he's got more in the tank...but at some point you want to enjoy the rest of your life, too.

In comment 15573315 EricJ said:

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it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire

How is she going to "force" him to retire? I don't know, maybe, just maybe, it's a collaborative decision? I guess Tom just isn't the man of the house like you are.

Perhaps, he will announce it is his last year to give it some finality and get the fan appreciation as he plays in various cities.

In comment 15573580 Producer said:

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In comment 15573315 EricJ said: Quote: it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire What's wrong with you? Seriously?

c'mon dude, totally unnecessary.

In comment 15573634 Matt M. said:

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He's coming off a very good season, is in great shape, and has the year on his deal. I think ifntheu won this year, he calla it quits. But, he is ultra competitive and walking away now would probably eat at him. I think that confused state he was in after the game was still she'll shock from the way it ended. From the improbable comeback to tie it to a heartbreaking loss in a flash. I would be shocked if he was comfortable enough to quit with that as his last game. As for Gronk, he even said he wouldn't necessarily be done even if Brady is. His time off really seemed to rejuvenate him mentally.

Matt - it could end worse ways.

No playoffs. Playoff blow out loss.

He would retire at 44 leading the entire NFL in several passing categories just for this season. Incredible.

That's a pretty darn good way to close it out, short of a SB.

In comment 15573869 BillKo said:

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In comment 15573580 Producer said: Quote: In comment 15573315 EricJ said: Quote: it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire What's wrong with you? Seriously? c'mon dude, totally unnecessary.

So the problem isn't the poster calling a woman he's never met the "c-word", but the poster calling him out on it? Interesting.

In comment 15573315 EricJ said:

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it is his "c-word" wife who is the problem trying to force him to retire

God forbid if his wife and family want him to stop playing…

the Colts should look into.

In comment 15573960 GNewGiants said:

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the Colts should look into.

Another player*

Wilson or Brady on the Colts could be really interesting.

He said the magic number is 45 he’s a year away from that. He had his best statistical season this past year and he’s one year away from the number he set almost a decade ago. He will return for one more shot. In his interview he said he needs to decompress and relax. Come June he’ll be itching to get back on the field

he looks like a 25 year old kid. that took balls