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Schwartz: Daboll has plenty of proven DC options if named HC

GFAN52 : 1/24/2022 7:59 pm
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How does a Daboll-Vic Fangio pairing sound? Or how about a Daboll-Don “Wink’’ Martindale duo? Or a Daboll-Mike Zimmer tandem? Keeping things closer to home, why not a Daboll-Patrick Graham tag team?

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Pat Graham would be the least favorite choice..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/24/2022 8:01 pm : link
Off that list.
I get that Graham is well liked by the players  
BlackLight : 1/24/2022 8:06 pm : link
and that counts for something, but the defense wasn't THAT good. You can call it a bright spot, but when everything else was so terrible, just being merely below average can qualify as a bright spot.

The defense was like a star in the night sky that you can only see when you keep it in your periphery. If you look directly at it, it disappears.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/24/2022 8:07 pm : link
I'd be cool with Fangio, Wink, or Zimmer. Graham? Hard pass. & if Graham is our DC, that's evidence to me that John is weighing in &...(banging head on desk).
Martindale makes the most sense to me....  
GFAN52 : 1/24/2022 8:08 pm : link
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RE: ...  
section125 : 1/24/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15572936 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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....if Graham is our DC, that's evidence to me that John is weighing in &...(banging head on desk).


Why?
Graham’s defense last year did not inspire  
Simms11 : 1/24/2022 8:11 pm : link
any confidence. They couldn’t stop ANY team, I mean ANY, within two minutes of half, I mean historically bad. Couldn’t stop the run and couldn’t come up with any schemes to get blitzes to the QB when needed. They also could not get teams off the field when they absolutely needed to. I’d so we don’t need to keep the status quo on Defense either!
section125.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/24/2022 8:12 pm : link
From all accounts, Mara loves Graham. Why? I don't know.

& I know there's a Patriots connection, but we can do much better than Graham IMO.
Please pass on Patrick Graham  
RELICDOA : 1/24/2022 8:17 pm : link
Start with a complete reboot. I don’t want to be here a year from now talking about a DC
Unless Graham's defensive scheme was based on  
Bill in UT : 1/24/2022 8:24 pm : link
the Giants' defensive personnel absolutely sucking, I hated it. And if they do absolutely suck, we're in worse shape than even I thought.
Fangio 100%  
Dankbeerman : 1/24/2022 9:13 pm : link
others are no big loss
No to Graham  
kelly : 1/24/2022 10:20 pm : link
Terrible bend but don't break defense. Horrible.

Talent in the secondary wasted by playing the prevent a win defense. No aggression.

I want a return to Giant football. No to the west coast offense. No to the Rod Rust bend but don't break defense.

No to Graham as DC.
Why can't the Mara's ever make a clean break  
arniefez : 1/24/2022 10:26 pm : link
Let Graham go somewhere else.
If you can get Fangio, you get Fangio  
Greg from LI : 1/24/2022 10:46 pm : link
He's head and shoulders above the other names listed.
RE: I get that Graham is well liked by the players  
mattyblue : 1/24/2022 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15572933 BlackLight said:
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and that counts for something, but the defense wasn't THAT good. You can call it a bright spot, but when everything else was so terrible, just being merely below average can qualify as a bright spot.

The defense was like a star in the night sky that you can only see when you keep it in your periphery. If you look directly at it, it disappears.


Agreed and some of the early games (as best I can remember) in the season were losses mainly due to the defense. They certainly improved as the year went on but not enough to justify bringing him back in my mind anyways.
RE: If you can get Fangio, you get Fangio  
Snablats : 1/25/2022 1:01 am : link
In comment 15573236 Greg from LI said:
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He's head and shoulders above the other names listed.

Fangio can wait for Quinn to get his head coaching gig and then go to Dallas. Or wait to see if Harbaugh goes to Vegas and go there. He could also end up in Baltimore. Lots of better options for Fangio than the Giants
No to Graham  
5BowlsSoon : 1/25/2022 6:28 am : link
Anyone else looks okay to me.
RE: section125.  
TroyArchersGhost : 1/25/2022 6:40 am : link
In comment 15572949 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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From all accounts, Mara loves Graham. Why? I don't know.

& I know there's a Patriots connection, but we can do much better than Graham IMO.

Mara knows nothing about football. Let's hope Schoen has the authority to make all the hires himself without input from the Chief Clown.
Is anybody impressed by Graham?  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/25/2022 7:48 am : link
I mean besides Mara?

Nothing against Graham, he got decent performance  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/25/2022 7:49 am : link
out of an idiot's idea of roster construction.

What DC is saving the world with no linebackers and no pass rushers? Don't make this about Graham's ability.
Ten Ton that is fair but only to a point.  
chick310 : 1/25/2022 8:56 am : link
The NY Giant defense still had plenty high priced talent on it, and it made several extremely average QBs look pretty good too many times last season. Further, they simply could not get stops when needed to keep games within the margin. Lastly, too many guys underperformed on his defense in comparison to the very few that played at/over expectations.

Graham has to take ownership on much of this.
Maybe give Graham some pass rushers  
Southern Man : 1/25/2022 9:42 am : link
and pursuit at the 2nd level and his defensive strategy might look a whole lot different.
Ooops  
Southern Man : 1/25/2022 9:43 am : link
Kind of just what Ten Ton said
No thanks to Graham  
cjac : 1/25/2022 9:50 am : link
we need to hit the reset button here
Whoever gets chosen as DC,  
Angel Eyes : 1/25/2022 10:13 am : link
can they teach our players how to shed blocks?
Have an offense that can score a little  
Aaroninma : 1/25/2022 10:14 am : link
and Grahams D would look a whole lot better.

But its not my favorite style, and im in favor of a completeltt new set of eyes. I love Martindales approach.
RE: Martindale makes the most sense to me....  
Adirondack GMen : 1/25/2022 10:35 am : link
In comment 15572940 GFAN52 said:
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+1 !
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