RJ Barrett
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That right there is why he is the leader of the team and the best player the Knicks have. Give me that.
Thibs leash is getting much, much shorter.
Randle just needs to go. He's the same player he was his whole career. Last year was the anomaly.
Ironic, Quickleys nickname is IQ, especially when he shows little of it at times.
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
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Just checked a stat for tomorrow's newsletter and Julius Randle is now officially the least efficient high usage player in the NBA. Among 38 players w/a usage rate above 26 (min. 20 games & 20 mpg), his eFG% of 46.4 ranks dead last. Also has the 4th worst TO ratio of the group.
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That Elf comment is heresy. You gotta retract that.
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
this is sarcasm right?
It's almost like the Giants with linebackers. Why did they take Obi over Haliburton or why did they take Kevin Knox over SGA?
it's really infuriating.
this is sarcasm right?
Nope. I think Randle needs a take charge guy on the floor. He’s not the only one.
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this is sarcasm right?
Nope. I think Randle needs a take charge guy on the floor. He’s not the only one.
You think Payton was a take charge PG?
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
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That Elf comment is heresy. You gotta retract that.
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
RJ is trying but Thibs still won't put the ball in his hands enough even though with the way he is playing he is showing he deserves it.
Randle efficiency went down when the crowds came back
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
I hope your right when it comes to Burks and Fournier
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
It's not just about Thibs though. I have no insider knowledge other then what i read, but it appears just baed on their moves that there are different voices in the front office instead of 1 clear path. They have a bunch of young players who appear to have upside and are worth playing and developing while at the same time they go and sign Fournier, Burks, Kemba, Randle etc to block a good number of them.
Thibs deserves blame but at the same time so does the front office. I just dont know who in the front office to blame for this past offseason of giving Randle a huge extension off of 1 season with a terrible postseason, and then signing Fournier and Kemba 2 guys who can't play a lick of defense to play for Thibs
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In comment 15574710 ajr2456 said:
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
It's not just about Thibs though. I have no insider knowledge other then what i read, but it appears just baed on their moves that there are different voices in the front office instead of 1 clear path. They have a bunch of young players who appear to have upside and are worth playing and developing while at the same time they go and sign Fournier, Burks, Kemba, Randle etc to block a good number of them.
Thibs deserves blame but at the same time so does the front office. I just dont know who in the front office to blame for this past offseason of giving Randle a huge extension off of 1 season with a terrible postseason, and then signing Fournier and Kemba 2 guys who can't play a lick of defense to play for Thibs
Saying they should have not paid Randle is one of those criticisms that is far easier to make now than when he was playing like one of the 15 best players in the NBA for a full season.
I dont really recall anyone arguing that they shouldn't
RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.
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virtually everyone is available
RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.
I dont think he is, I think he only goes in a superstar type deal
Which team would trade for him at this point ?
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name is starting to circulate around the NBA
Which team would trade for him at this point ?
There are teams that would trade for Randle, his deal is not awful for a 3rd option type of guy
You can trade Randle
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name is starting to circulate around the NBA
Which team would trade for him at this point ?
There are teams that would trade for Randle, his deal is not awful for a 3rd option type of guy
The biggest issue with Randle is he won't accept being the 3rd option because in his head he is Lebron James. I just can't believe another Executive would see how he is playing this season and want that contract on his roster for the next 4 years but if there is then hopefully the Knicks jump at the opportunity to trade him
You can trade Randle
This. From what I've read multiple western conference teams are interested. I heard the Kings too. They have tons of guards and wings, but besides Holmes and maybe Metu they are soft up front. Bagley is probably a goner soon.
Randle for Barnes and a first. Burks for a first. Cut Kemba. Let's go.
36 points in the first half. 80 in the second half. Wow.
I’m guessing Reddish wasn’t acquired just to be flipped within a month, so he’s probably safe too.
I want to add Mitch but he can’t stay on the court.
The official NBA game highlight package is worth watching for how the Wiz blow the 35 point lead.
But then it leaves out most of the good stuff in the wild ending. Five second violation. Four point play
For that, there are a number of youtube vids of the full ending already up.
Worth a watch.
Barnes and a first for Randle. One week away... Feb 2nd LFG
The official NBA game highlight package is worth watching for how the Wiz blow the 35 point lead.
But then it leaves out most of the good stuff in the wild ending. Five second violation. Four point play
For that, there are a number of youtube vids of the full ending already up.
Worth a watch.
Thanks just caught the highlights. Listen that was one of the epic endings ever but there's no way Beal fouled him lol
Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka
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Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.
Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka
Maybe we trade them Cam. :-)
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Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.
Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka
Maybe we trade them Cam. :-)
noooooo :)
If that were the case, the Mavs would be looking for shooting in return. Obviously, Burks is not enough but I'd deal Obi, Burks and the Dallas first round pick back to Dallas, to get Brunson.
Still appears though that there is no deal without Grimes.
Of course, if the Knicks feel they can sign Brunson outright, then they shouldn't deal. But I think Bird rights are really crucial here. Deal for Brunson now, and the Knicks would have the ability to surpass the cap to sign him.
Knicks desperately need a PG. And we have kicked this can down the road for 20 years. Brunson could be exactly what the doctor has ordered.
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virtually everyone is available
RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.
Although they almost dealt him the start of last season, he’s not available in trade talks that don’t bring in a top 15 player
Although they almost dealt him the start of last season, he’s not available in trade talks that don’t bring in a top 15 player
That would have been incredibly stupid and Knicks-esque.
Whatever the case I just want to break this trend where the Knicks see many a player regress and things turn south. I'd like to think this regime won't be too quick to give up on a player like Randle. If he can be moved in the right deal I am all for it, but don't just dump him. That's stupid.
Waiting for the consolidation type trade. Too many pretty good or good young players not enough star power in the back court. Get it done.
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adding real fucking pgs to this team for the first time in 50 years wouldn't help things, since Randle is the only ball handler on the team that doesn't do god awfully stupid shit (IQ shooting from lake erie during the biggest possession) or disappear completely (Hi Alec Burks)
We have no PGs. Ever. For about 5 minutes I thought we did have them this year but then Kemba turned into a smiling matador who shoots well once a week, Rose broke in half and IG stayed IQ.
No PGs. That's why Randle is struggling. Most scoring forwards do when the PGs are garbage.
Could be wrong, but when in doubt, look at the glaring weaknesses and go from there. The best PG on this team the last 2 years was Elfrid Fucking Payton.
IQ had 6 assists to 1 TO last night. He may be shooting like shit. But he's a good point guard.
That last sentence disqualifies you from ever commenting on Knicks threads.
Trading Randle for Barnes is far more damaging to the Knicks than anything I say on here.
I wasn't even condemning IQ as much as just saying the Knicks don't have any PGs. If IQ is your best PG you're in trouble.
Oh get over it. It's true anyway. We don't even HAVE A PG right now! That in and of itself renders things true because as much as some here might not want to admit it, Payton is better than air.
Again though, that's not the point. The point is we don't have any PG! You want to argue about how bad Payton was be my guest. Don't care.
Grimes is 14-29 on *guarded* catch and shoot attempts, per Synergy. He's in the 97th percentile in the NBA and 11th out of 324 qualified players
Legitimate two-way player at a position of need now and for the future.
The New York Knicks maximized their spending power last offseason to put the strongest and deepest roster possible. In doing so, they lost a lot of flexibility over the next few seasons and their best path to improving the team is through trade. They have a handful of expendable veterans, many young players, and a surplus of first-round draft picks to facilitate a deal.
The Knicks could be on the search for another new point guard with Kemba Walker‘s knee issues flaring up again. They could pursue guards such as De’Aaron Fox, Dennis Schroder, or Jalen Brunson. According to SNY’s Ian Begley, Brunson shares many connections with the Knicks organization that could make him a strong trade target for them. A package centered on Mitchell Robinson, who is currently extension-eligible and set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, or sending back the Mavericks their 2023 first-round, could make sense.
The Knicks traded a first-round pick that may not convey for a while to take a shot on Cam Reddish. With a young core that features him, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Obi Toppin, Quentin Grimes, and Miles McBride, they have more than enough recent draft selections to develop. They could look to package some of their future draft picks and young players for the next available All-Star that becomes available. They have all their own first-round picks and a whopping 15 second-round picks over the next seven drafts to play with.
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Same here. Won't be a star but has a VERY high floor - sniper from three, elite perimeter defender, good rebounder (for a wing) and competes his ass off every second he's out there. He's my favorite Knicks player in quite some time. There's a reason teams keep asking for him.