RJ Barrett
RJ Barrett shot 5-for-10 from the free-throw line tonight. “That’s 10 points,” he tells reporters in Cleveland. “We lose by two…I can’t be out there letting the team down missing that many free throws…I’m gonna fix that." |
That right there is why he is the leader of the team and the best player the Knicks have. Give me that.
Thibs leash is getting much, much shorter.
Randle just needs to go. He's the same player he was his whole career. Last year was the anomaly.
Ironic, Quickleys nickname is IQ, especially when he shows little of it at times.
I said this in the offseason. Kemba is washed goods. I dont even think teams want him as a filler.
I can easily see the Knicks and Kemba parting ways - which means GM Lebron will be knocking down on the door for another aging veteran.
Simons has been playing amazing for them
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To Portland for CJ could be a possibility. Simons is going to get paid so they need to make room in the backcourt.
I said this in the offseason. Kemba is washed goods. I dont even think teams want him as a filler.
I can easily see the Knicks and Kemba parting ways - which means GM Lebron will be knocking down on the door for another aging veteran.
Portland would probably be able to get out of most of year 2 of Kembas deal based on the exhibit 3 of his deal. Portland desperately needs the front court help.
Portland would probably be able to get out of most of year 2 of Kembas deal based on the exhibit 3 of his deal. Portland desperately needs the front court help.
Lillard quote from the other day kind of interested me. HE said if Portland was gonna tank, he would sit out the year. I kind of read that he wants them to tank to get a high pick. Which then would obviously be traded to help him get another player.
If a team was interested in trading for randle, the Kings still seem to be the team to go after. Maybe not Barnes, but what about Bagley and Mitchell? I think Sac holds onto Fox which makes Mitchell's role limited.
Knicks owe him 4yr/29M beginning next season.
As mentioned at the end of the thread last night, Randle's deal has a 15% trade kicker that applies to the balance remaining on his contract.
Which means a deal now would cost the Knicks an $18M going away present and a 15% premium would be added to the cap hit of the acquiring team. Translating to a 4yr/33.6M cap consequence for his new team.
I doubt Randle's contract can be moved without attaching a pick. And the Knicks are down one after the Reddish trade.
Buyout Kemba..
Trade Burks to a contender for a pick and filler..
Tell Fournier he is going to come off the bench
Quick/rose
grimes/fournier
Rj/reddish
Barnes/obi
Mitch/Noel
Fournier only plays around 25 minutes a night, Reddish, Grimes and Rj get the bulk of the wkng minutes
Do it Rose!
I probably like Randle more than most but I would still do this deal. Is this really a possibility being discussed?
I don't know, lately he's been pretty horrible. High volume, inefficient scorer, turnover machine, high usage rate, lazy on D. I'm sure he has value based off of last year, but the longer this shit goes on the faster that value is going to drop.
2) He had extra time to prepare for the 2020-21 season. Maybe he needs that extra time. I don't know what he can do about that. The goal is to be playing in June.
3) As others have noted, it may not be a coincidence that he had his best season without fans in the building. He may be too sensitive to the crowd. I don't know what he can do about that, either.
if he doesnt make a move he will be killed
RJB is not as good as Randle. He may never be. And why do we have to praise one while condemning the other? Why can't these two guys co-exist? They play two different positions and play a different style but now every other post seems to go out of its way to vault RJB while killing Randle? What's that all about?
Randle has had an off year, but I find it disturbing we are going to run this guy out of town because of some back-round noise.
He will be an all star elsewhere. We better get a lot back for Randle that's all I know.
You gotta be kidding me. RJB should have attacked the basket but we're gonna blame Randle ?
This has spiraled. Been there done that.
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is a tanking move. I'm ok with tanking, but that's what it is. If the Knicks can't get better at the deadline, I'd be ok with them getting worse to play young guys.
its not a tanking move
Well, I guess we disagree then on whether that would improve the starting lineup.
RJB is not as good as Randle. He may never be. And why do we have to praise one while condemning the other? Why can't these two guys co-exist? They play two different positions and play a different style but now every other post seems to go out of its way to vault RJB while killing Randle? What's that all about?
Randle has had an off year, but I find it disturbing we are going to run this guy out of town because of some back-round noise.
He will be an all star elsewhere. We better get a lot back for Randle that's all I know.
Randle is who he is, last year was the outlier. He is playing the same way he did his first year here, the way he did in New Orleans, and the way he did in Los Angeles before that. It isn't like his performance this season is some shock, it's him coming back down to Earth.
We have no PGs. Ever. For about 5 minutes I thought we did have them this year but then Kemba turned into a smiling matador who shoots well once a week, Rose broke in half and IG stayed IQ.
No PGs. That's why Randle is struggling. Most scoring forwards do when the PGs are garbage.
Could be wrong, but when in doubt, look at the glaring weaknesses and go from there. The best PG on this team the last 2 years was Elfrid Fucking Payton.
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push another good player out of MSG. Whatever works. We've been down this road many times before.
RJB is not as good as Randle. He may never be. And why do we have to praise one while condemning the other? Why can't these two guys co-exist? They play two different positions and play a different style but now every other post seems to go out of its way to vault RJB while killing Randle? What's that all about?
Randle has had an off year, but I find it disturbing we are going to run this guy out of town because of some back-round noise.
He will be an all star elsewhere. We better get a lot back for Randle that's all I know.
Randle is who he is, last year was the outlier. He is playing the same way he did his first year here, the way he did in New Orleans, and the way he did in Los Angeles before that. It isn't like his performance this season is some shock, it's him coming back down to Earth.
OK, I guess...he's still the best player on the team by virtually every single metric known to man and again, check those PGs.
Randle is the problem and isn't the problem. He played insanely well last season and has come back to earth. Maybe we should try and figure out why instead of dumping him in a ridiculously short sighted and bad trade like Barnes. Cmon already.
RJB is not as good as Randle. He may never be. And why do we have to praise one while condemning the other? Why can't these two guys co-exist? They play two different positions and play a different style but now every other post seems to go out of its way to vault RJB while killing Randle? What's that all about?
Randle has had an off year, but I find it disturbing we are going to run this guy out of town because of some back-round noise.
He will be an all star elsewhere. We better get a lot back for Randle that's all I know.
I've been off the Randle train as early as game 2 of this year. He isn't as good as you think he is. I don't know if you're watching the games or not. But RJB is surpassing Randle.
To put those all-around numbers in context, consider this: Only two players have tallied more than 300 points, 75 rebounds, 50 made free throws and 25 made three-pointers since the end of December. One is LeBron James. The other is RJ Barrett.
The key to unlocking Barrett's success since his return from Covid protocols last month has been his relentless attacks at the tin. Barrett is averaging more than 15 drives per game during this recent stretch, and 73.9% of all the points he's scored inside the arc resulted from drives to the basket. Not only is that highest among all Knicks, but it's also nearly double every other player on the team (Randle ranks second at 8.5 drives per game).
RJ has scored a total of 147 points off drives in 2022, which ranks fifth in the entire league, behind only Ja Morant, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Luka Doncic and De'Aaron Fox (and ahead of stars such as Giannis Antetokounmpo and Trae Young).
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We have no PGs. Ever. For about 5 minutes I thought we did have them this year but then Kemba turned into a smiling matador who shoots well once a week, Rose broke in half and IG stayed IQ.
No PGs. That's why Randle is struggling. Most scoring forwards do when the PGs are garbage.
Could be wrong, but when in doubt, look at the glaring weaknesses and go from there. The best PG on this team the last 2 years was Elfrid Fucking Payton.
IQ had 6 assists to 1 TO last night. He may be shooting like shit. But he's a good point guard.
That last sentence disqualifies you from ever commenting on Knicks threads.
If you dont think Randle is the reason they lost last night i dont know what to tell you..
On the play Rj took the 3, there was no reason the ball should of been in Randles hands, zero, ball should of been given to Rj right away and let him attack the basket
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
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Just checked a stat for tomorrow's newsletter and Julius Randle is now officially the least efficient high usage player in the NBA. Among 38 players w/a usage rate above 26 (min. 20 games & 20 mpg), his eFG% of 46.4 ranks dead last. Also has the 4th worst TO ratio of the group.
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That Elf comment is heresy. You gotta retract that.
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
this is sarcasm right?
It's almost like the Giants with linebackers. Why did they take Obi over Haliburton or why did they take Kevin Knox over SGA?
it's really infuriating.
this is sarcasm right?
Nope. I think Randle needs a take charge guy on the floor. He’s not the only one.
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this is sarcasm right?
Nope. I think Randle needs a take charge guy on the floor. He’s not the only one.
You think Payton was a take charge PG?
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
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That Elf comment is heresy. You gotta retract that.
Nobody wants Payton back. But it’s not heresy. Beyond his PG skills he was a floor leader. No one has filled that role on the team since his benching and departure.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Randle’s playing efficiency declined when Payton lost his playing time late last year.
RJ is trying but Thibs still won't put the ball in his hands enough even though with the way he is playing he is showing he deserves it.
Randle efficiency went down when the crowds came back
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
I hope your right when it comes to Burks and Fournier
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
It's not just about Thibs though. I have no insider knowledge other then what i read, but it appears just baed on their moves that there are different voices in the front office instead of 1 clear path. They have a bunch of young players who appear to have upside and are worth playing and developing while at the same time they go and sign Fournier, Burks, Kemba, Randle etc to block a good number of them.
Thibs deserves blame but at the same time so does the front office. I just dont know who in the front office to blame for this past offseason of giving Randle a huge extension off of 1 season with a terrible postseason, and then signing Fournier and Kemba 2 guys who can't play a lick of defense to play for Thibs
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They’ve rebuffed every team so far that’s called about Obi.
I’d say better than 50% chance Burks or Fournier aren’t here after the deadline
Why are they trying so hard to keep Obi when Thibs plays him 10 minutes a game ? If they believe him in so much then trade Randle and let Obi flourish. Otherwise, they are just wasting an asset
Thibs will be gone soon. End of next year at the latest
It's not just about Thibs though. I have no insider knowledge other then what i read, but it appears just baed on their moves that there are different voices in the front office instead of 1 clear path. They have a bunch of young players who appear to have upside and are worth playing and developing while at the same time they go and sign Fournier, Burks, Kemba, Randle etc to block a good number of them.
Thibs deserves blame but at the same time so does the front office. I just dont know who in the front office to blame for this past offseason of giving Randle a huge extension off of 1 season with a terrible postseason, and then signing Fournier and Kemba 2 guys who can't play a lick of defense to play for Thibs
Saying they should have not paid Randle is one of those criticisms that is far easier to make now than when he was playing like one of the 15 best players in the NBA for a full season.
I dont really recall anyone arguing that they shouldn't
RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.
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virtually everyone is available
RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.
I dont think he is, I think he only goes in a superstar type deal
Which team would trade for him at this point ?
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name is starting to circulate around the NBA
Which team would trade for him at this point ?
There are teams that would trade for Randle, his deal is not awful for a 3rd option type of guy