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JohninSC : 1/25/2022 8:01 am
RJ Barrett

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RJ Barrett shot 5-for-10 from the free-throw line tonight. “That’s 10 points,” he tells reporters in Cleveland. “We lose by two…I can’t be out there letting the team down missing that many free throws…I’m gonna fix that."


That right there is why he is the leader of the team and the best player the Knicks have. Give me that.

Thibs leash is getting much, much shorter.

Randle just needs to go. He's the same player he was his whole career. Last year was the anomaly.

Ironic, Quickleys nickname is IQ, especially when he shows little of it at times.

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Kings would be a team definitely interested  
nygiants16 : 1/25/2022 8:46 pm : link
Hornets, AJ mentioned before the Trailblazers..

You can trade Randle
RE: RE: RE: Gut feeling Randle gets traded  
Giantfan21 : 1/25/2022 8:50 pm : link
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name is starting to circulate around the NBA



Which team would trade for him at this point ?



There are teams that would trade for Randle, his deal is not awful for a 3rd option type of guy


The biggest issue with Randle is he won't accept being the 3rd option because in his head he is Lebron James. I just can't believe another Executive would see how he is playing this season and want that contract on his roster for the next 4 years but if there is then hopefully the Knicks jump at the opportunity to trade him
RE: Kings would be a team definitely interested  
Stu11 : 1/25/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15575018 nygiants16 said:
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Hornets, AJ mentioned before the Trailblazers..

You can trade Randle

This. From what I've read multiple western conference teams are interested. I heard the Kings too. They have tons of guards and wings, but besides Holmes and maybe Metu they are soft up front. Bagley is probably a goner soon.
Thibs may not show up to work if that happens, but I sincerely hope  
Jim in Hoboken : 1/25/2022 9:01 pm : link
Kemba, Burks, Randle and Fournier are not on the team after the deadline. Noel too, after the contract he's now hurt every other game.
If RJ can shoot like he did last year, and add his dribble drive game  
Jim in Hoboken : 1/25/2022 9:03 pm : link
from this year, he's gonna be an All-Star. Maybe not a top 5 player, but a top 25 player for sure. Like we've all thought, he shouldn't be trying to hurry up shots in the paint or going over people. Looks like he's figured it out.
The Broadway Bully  
adamg : 1/25/2022 9:19 pm : link
He's built for NY. It'd be treasonous to trade him.

Randle for Barnes and a first. Burks for a first. Cut Kemba. Let's go.
Wizards just blew a 35 point lead to clippers  
nygiants16 : 1/25/2022 9:45 pm : link
at home, up 6 with 9 seconds left
RE: Wizards just blew a 35 point lead to clippers  
adamg : 1/25/2022 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15575084 nygiants16 said:
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at home, up 6 with 9 seconds left


36 points in the first half. 80 in the second half. Wow.
I’d hang onto RJ/Grimes/Obi right now.  
bceagle05 : 1/25/2022 10:11 pm : link
I wouldn’t say they’re untouchable, but…I’m intrigued.

I’m guessing Reddish wasn’t acquired just to be flipped within a month, so he’s probably safe too.

I want to add Mitch but he can’t stay on the court.

Clips Wiz blown lead and ending  
shyster : 1/25/2022 10:24 pm : link

The official NBA game highlight package is worth watching for how the Wiz blow the 35 point lead.

But then it leaves out most of the good stuff in the wild ending. Five second violation. Four point play

For that, there are a number of youtube vids of the full ending already up.

Worth a watch.
Kings lost to the Celtics 128-75.  
bceagle05 : 1/25/2022 10:47 pm : link
Might be time for a shakeup out there.
RE: Kings lost to the Celtics 128-75.  
adamg : 1/25/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15575172 bceagle05 said:
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Might be time for a shakeup out there.


Barnes and a first for Randle. One week away... Feb 2nd LFG
RE: Clips Wiz blown lead and ending  
Stu11 : 1/25/2022 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15575142 shyster said:
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The official NBA game highlight package is worth watching for how the Wiz blow the 35 point lead.

But then it leaves out most of the good stuff in the wild ending. Five second violation. Four point play

For that, there are a number of youtube vids of the full ending already up.

Worth a watch.

Thanks just caught the highlights. Listen that was one of the epic endings ever but there's no way Beal fouled him lol
Hardaway breaks foot  
GNewGiants : 1/26/2022 1:50 am : link
Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.
RE: Hardaway breaks foot  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2022 7:28 am : link
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Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.


Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka
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Del Shofner : 1/26/2022 8:36 am : link
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Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.



Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka


Maybe we trade them Cam. :-)
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nygiants16 : 1/26/2022 8:38 am : link
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Brunson this will make it harder for mavs to trade Brunson.



Depends how you look at it, they are in desperate need of a wing, Brunson doesnt play PG for them, Luka is their point, so they would trade Brunson to get a wing to help Luka



Maybe we trade them Cam. :-)


noooooo :)
Brunson deal probably off the table now  
PhilSimms15 : 1/26/2022 8:47 am : link
unless Dallas feels backfilling THJ is of a higher cause.

If that were the case, the Mavs would be looking for shooting in return. Obviously, Burks is not enough but I'd deal Obi, Burks and the Dallas first round pick back to Dallas, to get Brunson.

Still appears though that there is no deal without Grimes.

Of course, if the Knicks feel they can sign Brunson outright, then they shouldn't deal. But I think Bird rights are really crucial here. Deal for Brunson now, and the Knicks would have the ability to surpass the cap to sign him.

Knicks desperately need a PG. And we have kicked this can down the road for 20 years. Brunson could be exactly what the doctor has ordered.
RE: RE: Jake Fischer says Knicks are very active in trade talks  
ajr2456 : 1/26/2022 10:20 am : link
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virtually everyone is available



RJ better not be available. He’s the only guy I’ll be pissed about them moving.


Although they almost dealt him the start of last season, he’s not available in trade talks that don’t bring in a top 15 player
RE: RE: RE: Jake Fischer says Knicks are very active in trade talks  
JohninSC : 1/26/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15575517 ajr2456 said:
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Although they almost dealt him the start of last season, he’s not available in trade talks that don’t bring in a top 15 player


That would have been incredibly stupid and Knicks-esque.
I shouldn't say (from earlier in this thread)  
djm : 1/26/2022 10:26 am : link
that RJB likely won't be as good as Randle I was just worked up. I love RJB's potential even if the growth has been somewhat choppy. To me he looks like a better player this season even if the stats don't necessarily show it yet.

Whatever the case I just want to break this trend where the Knicks see many a player regress and things turn south. I'd like to think this regime won't be too quick to give up on a player like Randle. If he can be moved in the right deal I am all for it, but don't just dump him. That's stupid.

Waiting for the consolidation type trade. Too many pretty good or good young players not enough star power in the back court. Get it done.
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djm : 1/26/2022 10:43 am : link
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adding real fucking pgs to this team for the first time in 50 years wouldn't help things, since Randle is the only ball handler on the team that doesn't do god awfully stupid shit (IQ shooting from lake erie during the biggest possession) or disappear completely (Hi Alec Burks)

We have no PGs. Ever. For about 5 minutes I thought we did have them this year but then Kemba turned into a smiling matador who shoots well once a week, Rose broke in half and IG stayed IQ.

No PGs. That's why Randle is struggling. Most scoring forwards do when the PGs are garbage.

Could be wrong, but when in doubt, look at the glaring weaknesses and go from there. The best PG on this team the last 2 years was Elfrid Fucking Payton.



IQ had 6 assists to 1 TO last night. He may be shooting like shit. But he's a good point guard.

That last sentence disqualifies you from ever commenting on Knicks threads.


Trading Randle for Barnes is far more damaging to the Knicks than anything I say on here.

I wasn't even condemning IQ as much as just saying the Knicks don't have any PGs. If IQ is your best PG you're in trouble.
RE: DJM  
djm : 1/26/2022 10:46 am : link
In comment 15574347 Mike from SI said:
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That Elf comment is heresy. You gotta retract that.


Oh get over it. It's true anyway. We don't even HAVE A PG right now! That in and of itself renders things true because as much as some here might not want to admit it, Payton is better than air.

Again though, that's not the point. The point is we don't have any PG! You want to argue about how bad Payton was be my guest. Don't care.
IQ is not a point guard.  
Del Shofner : 1/26/2022 11:07 am : link
His ideal role is as an instant-offense backup 2.
I do not want to trade Grimes. Nonstarter for me.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/26/2022 2:11 pm : link
I would move IQ before Grimes.

Grimes is 14-29 on *guarded* catch and shoot attempts, per Synergy. He's in the 97th percentile in the NBA and 11th out of 324 qualified players

Legitimate two-way player at a position of need now and for the future.
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DanMetroMan : 1/26/2022 2:13 pm : link
Could go either way

The New York Knicks maximized their spending power last offseason to put the strongest and deepest roster possible. In doing so, they lost a lot of flexibility over the next few seasons and their best path to improving the team is through trade. They have a handful of expendable veterans, many young players, and a surplus of first-round draft picks to facilitate a deal.

The Knicks could be on the search for another new point guard with Kemba Walker‘s knee issues flaring up again. They could pursue guards such as De’Aaron Fox, Dennis Schroder, or Jalen Brunson. According to SNY’s Ian Begley, Brunson shares many connections with the Knicks organization that could make him a strong trade target for them. A package centered on Mitchell Robinson, who is currently extension-eligible and set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, or sending back the Mavericks their 2023 first-round, could make sense.

The Knicks traded a first-round pick that may not convey for a while to take a shot on Cam Reddish. With a young core that features him, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Obi Toppin, Quentin Grimes, and Miles McBride, they have more than enough recent draft selections to develop. They could look to package some of their future draft picks and young players for the next available All-Star that becomes available. They have all their own first-round picks and a whopping 15 second-round picks over the next seven drafts to play with.
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just saw on twitter  
Enzo : 1/26/2022 3:52 pm : link
that today is the 9 year annivesary of "you trying to get the pipe?". Damn I miss JR.
RE: I do not want to trade Grimes. Nonstarter for me.  
bceagle05 : 1/26/2022 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15576169 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I would move IQ before Grimes.

Same here. Won't be a star but has a VERY high floor - sniper from three, elite perimeter defender, good rebounder (for a wing) and competes his ass off every second he's out there. He's my favorite Knicks player in quite some time. There's a reason teams keep asking for him.
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