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The 42-year-old Bills offensive coordinator is “clearly the favorite” to become the next Giants head coach, according to someone familiar with the process. He has been the favorite to many all along, given his relationship with new Giants GM Joe Schoen and the fact that Daboll has other supporters inside the organization, too. ... That doesn’t mean Daboll is a lock to get the job, though. There is still strong support for former Miami Dolphins coach Brian Flores, who many believe is the top choice of co-owner John Mara. Flores and Schoen don’t have a history together, though they have spoken in the last few weeks, according to sources. So Flores still has his chance to stake his claim to the job. |
That John Mara, Esquire, is a real pisser.
Because if Daboll is Schoen's guy AND has other supporters already in the building and they choose Flores, it will have been because Mara pushed for it.
It's possible that Flores just crushes his interview and Daboll flubs his. But having seen both men speak, I don't think there will be a dramatic swing within either of their interviews that would shift the intentions the way that an owner's preference would.
It doesn’t supersede Schoen making the call
Conspiracy theories aside, this was literally my first thought.
I think Mara lied.
Let's dig up some of your posts on Dolan.
This really is a great point.
Seems that this phrase is being overlooked?
I think if Mara likes Flores he is saying interview him and then the GM gets to decide who they go with.
That said, you'd hate to have a situation where the owner didn't have an opportunity to weigh in, and you'd also hate it if the GM was afraid to disagree with the owner. Neither situation is ideal, but I trus Shoen to have the people skills to address this directly with Mara "I know you like him, we don't know each other very well, but can you give me your word that if I don't take him it won't poison our relationship?" Two grownups should be able to work this out
Click bait...until it is not.
I think if Mara likes Flores he is saying interview him and then the GM gets to decide who they go with.
Let's at least be accurate: Flores brings a 24-25 record as HC. So he doesn't have a winning record overall, but does have one over the past two seasons.
He also brings a lot of the same issues that presumably led to Judge's ouster.
Click bait...until it is not.
You think reporters don't have access to sources that give them some insight into Mara's preferences? I know you're not that naive.
I don't understand. The Rooney Rule states an in-person interview is required to meet the requirements.
Saying you like someone in the media means nothing in relation to the Rooney Rule.
That said, you'd hate to have a situation where the owner didn't have an opportunity to weigh in, and you'd also hate it if the GM was afraid to disagree with the owner. Neither situation is ideal, but I trus Shoen to have the people skills to address this directly with Mara "I know you like him, we don't know each other very well, but can you give me your word that if I don't take him it won't poison our relationship?" Two grownups should be able to work this out
Have you ever taken a new job with the promises of getting carte blanche to hire your staff (other than standard background check stuff) and then within a week having not only your boss, but the owner of the company suggesting to you which candidate he likes best?
Do you think that's a situation where the new hire is likely to feel completely comfortable with their supposed carte blanche?
I think that's the issue. It's not that Mara (or Tisch) is not entitled to an opinion. It's that maybe their opinion should come in the form of weighing in on the candidates the new GM chooses, rather than suggesting candidates to the new GM. The latter puts a very favorable weight on their suggestions.
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to protect against any perception of flouting the Rooney rule?
I don't understand. The Rooney Rule states an in-person interview is required to meet the requirements.
Saying you like someone in the media means nothing in relation to the Rooney Rule.
There’s the letter of the law and then there’s perception. If it were to leak the Giants are locked in on Daboll and any minority interviews were pure window dressing, that’s not a good look for an owner who prides himself on carrying on his family’s legacy of being among the good guys in the league
Not sure if any truth to this, just spitballing here, but not beyond the realm. The Giants leaking stuff to influence public perception isn’t new
If Schoen comes away from this and hires Flores 100% on his own, I'll be on board. Flores wouldn't be my choice, but I am trusting the new GM. However, if Flores is hired because that is who Mara likes on any level, then this is more of the same shit.
Yeah Mara is not going to want this to look like a sham search. He's sensitive to outside perception, and doesn't want his franchise or the league to look bad RE: Rooney Rule. Its named after his niece after all!
And this will be yet another good litmus test for all the resident conspiracy theorists if indeed Daboll is ultimately chosen...
If he really gave Schoen Carte Blanche what difference does it make? And yeah, Schoen needs to "cast a wide net". They should be interviewing every candidate out there.
It doesn’t supersede Schoen making the call
It is, but unfortunately Mara has the instincts of George Costanza
That's a fair and valid concern.
At the same time, the Giants must have known that when they hired Schoen? You would think.
I'm more concerned with what Peppers posted about Schoen being more a of a yes-man.
To be clear, everyone on this thread is guessing based on limited information. Absolutely nobody is "backing themselves into a corner."
I dont think Mara has brought himself any credibility to use the "the media" excuse.
this is such a bulllshit false narrative. mara kept trying to hire people he was familiar with who sucked at their jobs and were part of a losing organization. he wanted input and everything to stay within the giants family. but that family was incompetent and broken
schoen is coming from outside of that. he has someone he's worked with, who is successful and one of the top coaching candidates around the league right now. this isn't the same as trying to promote abrams or bring in EA for a sham process to hire his friend. nobody was going to fucking hire abrams or gettleman except john.
the situations are nothing alike
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that Schoen is locked on Dabol
That's a fair and valid concern.
At the same time, the Giants must have known that when they hired Schoen? You would think.
I'm more concerned with what Peppers posted about Schoen being more a of a yes-man.
what did peppers post?
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that Schoen is locked on Dabol
That's a fair and valid concern.
At the same time, the Giants must have known that when they hired Schoen? You would think.
I'm more concerned with what Peppers posted about Schoen being more a of a yes-man.
Really? I hadn’t heard that
Maybe they can get jobs up in Buffalo or for the Jets...