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NGT: Ryan Poles To Bears As New GM

Saos1n : 1/25/2022 1:03 pm
Per multiple sources on twitter
Good for  
section125 : 1/25/2022 1:05 pm : link
him. Big step up.
Looks like a solid hire,  
Section331 : 1/25/2022 1:06 pm : link
I wonder who he (they) bring in as HC? Bienemy?
RE: Looks like a solid hire,  
Saos1n : 1/25/2022 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15574067 Section331 said:
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I wonder who he (they) bring in as HC? Bienemy?


Jim Caldwell is interviewing today
Seems like Caldwell the favorite for HC  
Sean : 1/25/2022 1:11 pm : link
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I thought Poles seemed like an impressive guy  
Heisenberg : 1/25/2022 1:18 pm : link
But seemed a bit more green to me than Schoen or Peters. I hope they bring in someone good for Fields as OC. Maybe if not Bienemy for HC, maybe he makes a lateral move where he's out from under Andy's shadow.
Will be interesting to compare him vs Schoen  
Metnut : 1/25/2022 1:25 pm : link
over the upcoming years to see how got the better hire.
That's actually  
Sammo85 : 1/25/2022 1:27 pm : link
a good tandem.

No doubt in my mind Polian is pushing Caldwell hard from Colts connections.

Polian pushed him hard to Lions when he consulted there too on searches.
His  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2022 1:28 pm : link
age scared me. 36 is very young to run a team.
I thought he was going to Minny  
Producer : 1/25/2022 1:29 pm : link
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RE: His  
Saos1n : 1/25/2022 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15574142 Eric from BBI said:
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age scared me. 36 is very young to run a team.


Other side to that, is if you nail it, it’s a long end game
Chiefs  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 1/25/2022 1:41 pm : link
get a comp 3rd round pick in each of the next 2 drafts for this hiring
RE: Chiefs  
Producer : 1/25/2022 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15574179 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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get a comp 3rd round pick in each of the next 2 drafts for this hiring


That ain't nothing.
RE: Chiefs  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/25/2022 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15574179 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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get a comp 3rd round pick in each of the next 2 drafts for this hiring

Good, I was worried a depleted team like the Chiefs wouldn't get more picks, good for them, very cool. Lets hope a team hires Graham away from us.
RE: I thought Poles seemed like an impressive guy  
shadow_spinner0 : 1/25/2022 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15574105 Heisenberg said:
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But seemed a bit more green to me than Schoen or Peters. I hope they bring in someone good for Fields as OC. Maybe if not Bienemy for HC, maybe he makes a lateral move where he's out from under Andy's shadow.

Would Bienemy in Chicago give the Chiefs more draft picks?
 
christian : 1/25/2022 1:51 pm : link
Poles is an incredibly impressive guy with the pelts for such a young man.

I also like that he played at a high level.
so the Bears got their Yes Man  
UConn4523 : 1/25/2022 1:52 pm : link
sucks for them.
RE: so the Bears got their Yes Man  
UberAlias : 1/25/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15574210 UConn4523 said:
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sucks for them.
LOL, you beat me to it :)
Looking forward  
an_idol_mind : 1/25/2022 1:58 pm : link
to the constant evaluation of Giants vs Bear when it comes to draft picks and free agent signings.
Good for him and I think his timing is good  
arniefez : 1/25/2022 1:58 pm : link
there is no stand out in that division if/when Aaron Rodgers retires. He was my 3rd choice for the Giants based on the current landscape at 1925 Giants Way. I thought having someone his age without a multi team resume would have no idea what he was walking into with the Giants who have people in their front office that have been employees since almost before he was a teenager.

Adam Peters was my 1st choice (I believe he's been responsible for the 49ers drafts and I had hoped the Giants would be interested in some of the their staff as potential HCs) but I'm happy to be rooting for Schoen (more experience rebuilding a front office than Peters, in the room for the upgrade in Buffalo's talent although not in charge, promoted by Bill Parcells who has always had a good eye for good people. From the outside he seems ready for the job.

I'm not a fan of Daboll, no HC experience at any level (the Giants just did that), no history of any kind of innovative offensive schemes, and Josh Allen isn't coming with him. But I wanted Charlie Weis not Tom Coughlin. Let's hope my eye for HCs has not improved since 2004 and Daboll is great. If he's the guy I'll 100% support him and hope he can recruit a great staff and develop players. Joe Judge did neither of those things.
RE: RE: His  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/25/2022 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15574167 Saos1n said:
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In comment 15574142 Eric from BBI said:


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age scared me. 36 is very young to run a team.



Other side to that, is if you nail it, it’s a long end game


Theo Epstein did pretty well for the Red Sox when he was like 29. A little different situation, but....
RE: RE: Looks like a solid hire,  
upnyg : 1/25/2022 2:19 pm : link
In comment 15574084 Saos1n said:
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In comment 15574067 Section331 said:


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I wonder who he (they) bring in as HC? Bienemy?



Jim Caldwell is interviewing today
That would be a solid team.
That's awesome. Congrats to him.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/25/2022 2:20 pm : link
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RE: RE: I thought Poles seemed like an impressive guy  
Saos1n : 1/25/2022 2:35 pm : link
In comment 15574206 shadow_spinner0 said:
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In comment 15574105 Heisenberg said:


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But seemed a bit more green to me than Schoen or Peters. I hope they bring in someone good for Fields as OC. Maybe if not Bienemy for HC, maybe he makes a lateral move where he's out from under Andy's shadow.


Would Bienemy in Chicago give the Chiefs more draft picks?


Yep
RE: Good for him and I think his timing is good  
Festina Lente : 1/25/2022 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15574237 arniefez said:
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there is no stand out in that division if/when Aaron Rodgers retires. He was my 3rd choice for the Giants based on the current landscape at 1925 Giants Way. I thought having someone his age without a multi team resume would have no idea what he was walking into with the Giants who have people in their front office that have been employees since almost before he was a teenager.

Adam Peters was my 1st choice (I believe he's been responsible for the 49ers drafts and I had hoped the Giants would be interested in some of the their staff as potential HCs) but I'm happy to be rooting for Schoen (more experience rebuilding a front office than Peters, in the room for the upgrade in Buffalo's talent although not in charge, promoted by Bill Parcells who has always had a good eye for good people. From the outside he seems ready for the job.

I'm not a fan of Daboll, no HC experience at any level (the Giants just did that), no history of any kind of innovative offensive schemes, and Josh Allen isn't coming with him. But I wanted Charlie Weis not Tom Coughlin. Let's hope my eye for HCs has not improved since 2004 and Daboll is great. If he's the guy I'll 100% support him and hope he can recruit a great staff and develop players. Joe Judge did neither of those things.


I find myself agreeing with almost everything you write
That's awesome for Poles and should be taken as sign  
kdog77 : 1/25/2022 3:00 pm : link
that Giants nailed the GM hiring process this time. How many of the guys the Giants interviewed in 2017 even got an offer to apply to an open GM position? We know Louis Riddick has gotten shut out so far.
God bless Poles...  
bw in dc : 1/25/2022 3:04 pm : link
for getting the opportunity, and best of luck trying to manage McCaskey. If he can pull that off, he's an exemplary hire.
RE: God bless Poles...  
Dave in PA : 1/25/2022 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15574396 bw in dc said:
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for getting the opportunity, and best of luck trying to manage McCaskey. If he can pull that off, he's an exemplary hire.
McCaskey seems like a total train wreck. People think the Mara’s are a problem? Good lord Chicago has it worse IMO
RE: so the Bears got their Yes Man  
Go Terps : 1/25/2022 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15574210 UConn4523 said:
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sucks for them.


Bill Polian informed their search. Bill Polian was the GM for Caldwell in Indy.

If Caldwell is the head coach, I doubt Poles did the hiring.
The odds of any of these new hires being successful has to be less  
Tom in NY : 1/25/2022 3:36 pm : link
than 20%....and I define successful as either winning a Super Bowl andor getting a 2nd multi-year contract.
It's not quite the NBA, but there are currently 9 HC positions and 4 GM spots open, with a likelihood of a 5th (Jax) right after the draft.
The odds are dramatically stacked against Poles (and Schoenfeld for that matter) working out long term. At 36, it can't be higher than 10% chance of success.
RE: RE: Chiefs  
Jimmy Googs : 1/25/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15574192 Producer said:
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In comment 15574179 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:


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get a comp 3rd round pick in each of the next 2 drafts for this hiring



That ain't nothing.


Yep, nice bonus just for making a valid quality hire...
RE: RE: so the Bears got their Yes Man  
Peppers : 1/25/2022 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15574228 UberAlias said:
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sucks for them.

LOL, you beat me to it :)


Yes, they did.

Chicago has been interviewing head coaching candidates and they've had their finalist before hiring Poles. Polian has had more of a role in picking the next head coach than Poles. From what's going around it's down to Quinn or Caldwell. Also, McCaskey is known to be difficult to work for.
That's a shame  
Rico : 1/25/2022 10:21 pm : link
We almost had him.
RE: That's a shame  
Snablats : 1/25/2022 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15575135 Rico said:
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We almost had him.

A Rico sighting!! You have been very quiet during these GM and HC searches
I hope this isn't taken the wrong way  
BestFeature : 1/25/2022 11:45 pm : link
But Bieniemy has become the poster boy for whenever someone wants to bring up the NFL as an old boys' club that doesn't give black HC candidates opportunities. If a black GM whose team Bieniemy coached for doesn't get the job will we perhaps think he may not be a great candidate, rather than something being wrong with the NFL
RE: I hope this isn't taken the wrong way  
Bear vs Shark : 1/25/2022 11:46 pm : link
In comment 15575205 BestFeature said:
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But Bieniemy has become the poster boy for whenever someone wants to bring up the NFL as an old boys' club that doesn't give black HC candidates opportunities. If a black GM whose team Bieniemy coached for doesn't get the job will we perhaps think he may not be a great candidate, rather than something being wrong with the NFL
From my understanding the consensus is more about his troubles with the law previously and drinking problems.
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