Curious about Mara willing to help buy out of cap dilemma.

Can you put in the quote as I am somewhat confused after reading that Original Post.

and I watched his press conference.

It’s a throw away comment. The only possible way spending more money helps ease the cap is if there future guarantees that are accelerated and the player is cut. And that will actually hurt the cap now, to free up room later.

I am only surmising since I don't have the quote, but maybe Mara was just making it known that the Owners are willing to utilize the cap to the fullest extent to help improve the won-loss record. They typically do anyway, but maybe this was just reiterating it.

In comment 15575426 NYGgolfer said:

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Can you put in the quote as I am somewhat confused after reading that Original Post.

I don’t know where the quote is but not sure what the op means though with settlements. The way I read it was he’s willing to cut guys that shouldn’t be here on big money deals and eat the dead money. More than likely we will have a huge cap hit this year and move on from there

I believe the comment was paraphrased in a Tweet for a reporter. It was posted last week.

I’m assuming it’s a misquote and what Mara meant was he’s still willing to spend money.

I took it as meaning that he would eat some contracts thus freeing up cap for 2023. Essentially acknowledging that the team needs a total rebuild and that lots of cap space would open in 2023.

In any case, Mara has never been shy about opening checkbook

just told O'Hara this team needs to get back to better cap health. He seemed to suggest they will not pursue expensive free agents but will need to get "creative" (probably regarding second and third tier free agents).

In comment 15575444 christian said:

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I believe the comment was paraphrased in a Tweet for a reporter. It was posted last week. I’m assuming it’s a misquote and what Mara meant was he’s still willing to spend money.

Curious. If 2023 is supposed to be a cap-friendly year for us, what’s the mechanism for luring a good FA this year (though we might just go lesser tiers this year and hopefully draft well) and putting the bulk of the money off to that year?

Tweet about Mara reaching out to Flores to tell him the Giants were serious about being interested in him and saying he would help out with the cap.

My read: Mara wants Flores and would be willing to take on dead money to clear out guys Flores wouldn't want on the roster in 2022.

In comment 15575444 christian said:

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I believe the comment was paraphrased in a Tweet for a reporter. It was posted last week. I’m assuming it’s a misquote and what Mara meant was he’s still willing to spend money.

I believe that was the case. Something I read on this board during last weeks interviews. Sorry I don’t have a more specific quote, and I can’t locate the thread.
Thanks to those providing your suggestions or speculating with me.

you cannot buy your way out of cap hell that's usually how you got into cap hell.

that they are willing to give up cap in the short term (via cuts and eating dead money) to create room in the long term for more of a clean slate.

has never been unwilling to spend money.

He's been a frustratingly poor owner in a lot of ways, but he isn't Paul Brown or anything. He will invest in the team.

out of cap hell? MS? bw in DC? Eric?

and also wondered how that would actually work in practice. The only thing I could think of was cutting guys with future guarantees and taking a big cap bath in 2022 but who could that be specifically other than Williams, Golladay and Shep?

Because the cap simply kept going up every year.
I may be wrong but the only time I ever remember the cap really biting someone in the ass was when Dallas had to cut DeMarcus Ware when he still had a couple of productive years left.

that they recognize 2022 will be a lost season, so load the cap with dead money and don't hold it against a new coach.

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In comment 15575510 UConn4523 said:

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that they are willing to give up cap in the short term (via cuts and eating dead money) to create room in the long term for more of a clean slate.

+1.
Seemed to be willingness to cut, injury settlement banged up players, and whatever other things they could do to, as you said get to a clean slate ASAP.

In comment 15575479 Big Blue '56 said:

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Curious. If 2023 is supposed to be a cap-friendly year for us, what’s the mechanism for luring a good FA this year (though we might just go lesser tiers this year and hopefully draft well) and putting the bulk of the money off to that year?

Short answer is there probably isn't one in 2022.

If you listen to the good financial guys (I really like Vin Marino on the Titans) -- you're always looking at a 2-3 year team architecture.

Abrams said the Giants spent into the market last offseason (like the Patriots). There was a lot of supply because of the drop in cap and many teams didn't spend.

The Giants packed a lot of salary on 22 and 23 and employed void years for the first time to spread bonus hits.

The Gettleman hypothesis was the Giants with 3/4th year Jones, 4/5th year Barkley, 2/3rd year Thomas, peak Bradberry, Martinez, Jackson, Williams, Golladay etc. -- 21/22/23 was there go for it window.

In comment 15575491 GiantsRage2007 said:

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Tweet about Mara reaching out to Flores to tell him the Giants were serious about being interested in him and saying he would help out with the cap. My read: Mara wants Flores and would be willing to take on dead money to clear out guys Flores wouldn't want on the roster in 2022.

This was my take as well. "Spending money" is probably the wrong term, but I took it to mean he's willing to eat bad contracts either by cut or by trade.

You "spend" money and free up cap room. The bonus money is spent upfront (as opposed to regular season weekly game checks) AND some times the bonus is more than the player would have earned via salary in order to entice the player to agree.

This practice just pushes to cap hit to future years and makes it harder to cut the player. So im not sure it is the approach they want to take. But it is the only way I can think of to "buy" your way to a lower cap.

The Giants can free up a lot of money by converting salary into roster bonuses and extending present contracts. This entails paying up front and impacts cash flow.
Typically the Giants do not operate in this manner. The Giants historically have a balanced budget where the actual money spent per season was consistent with the CAP.

Martinez and Rudolph will both be cut or let go with injury settlement.

Cutting Shep saves 4.5 million on the cap but would also create almost 8 million in dead money. Dead money is a killer.

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he’d cut guys like Kenny Golladay even if they were assumed uncuttable because they just received lots of $$$$. Its not just about dead cap but the bad biz of getting small ROI. He’s saying he doesnt give a f#ck and chalking it up to a failed business venture

In comment 15576262 Snablats said:

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Because this is not about 2022. It is about 2023 and beyond. Shoen has a mulligan for 2022, take the hit if you do not foresee a player being a long term solution.

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It’s a matter of if Blake Martinez, in his 7th year in the league, coming off a torn ACL, in the final year of his contract, is worth the 8.4M gamble.

My hope is Martinez is willing to restructure his deal to provide the Giants some cap relief next year in exchange for an incentive laden extension.

In comment 15575510 UConn4523 said:

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that they are willing to give up cap in the short term (via cuts and eating dead money) to create room in the long term for more of a clean slate.

This is the exact right answer.