and had plenty of characters on this team, but I don't recall a key guy just dogging it like this over an extended period of time - and not facing any repercussions.
He is playing like he is throwing games
The distance traveled and average speed are pretty damning
but even more so compared to Obi Toppin. You could have said maybe it had something to do with the position he plays and how he's asked to play defensively, but Toppin being on the total opposite end of the spectrum says otherwise.
i talked to my guy, he said it was the Kings, they want Randle, Knicks said Randle for Fox...Kings prefer something like Barnes and a pick for randle..
NY media is jumping on it, at this point I feel it's addition by subtraction.
Also Thibs is under fire which hopefully pushes him to change the lineups.
but even more so compared to Obi Toppin. You could have said maybe it had something to do with the position he plays and how he's asked to play defensively, but Toppin being on the total opposite end of the spectrum says otherwise.
Toppin aside, he's getting out-worked by Old Man River Taj Gibson.
That think if a Randle trade happens it’s a three way deal that sends Brunson to the Knicks.
I think a fourth team would have to get involved, like Cleveland. Only real path to that I can see is:
To NY: Rubio, Barnes, Brunson, Kings Top Prot
To Sac: Randle
To Dal: Quickly and Cavs Protected First, Dallas Pick Knicks own
To Cle: Fournier
This would be something i would do in a second, i just dont see cavs taking Fournker
Could probably figure out it and make it Burks with Knicks sending Dallas their 1st back and Cavs sending a 2nd to Dallas. More cash would need to move around I think
the fan called wfan and explained what happened, he claims no cursing and all hr said was that Randle was a waste of 113 million and them in the 4th said he was a -34...
Alao Windhorst claims Knicks are trying to trade Kemba, Fournier and Burka to open up playing time for young players
They’ve just kept tabs on him so not sure, but would have to be one of them. I wonder if an Embid/Randle pairing could work and can work out something like Cj to Knicks, randle to Philly, Tobias to blazers
the fan called wfan and explained what happened, he claims no cursing and all hr said was that Randle was a waste of 113 million and them in the 4th said he was a -34...
Alao Windhorst claims Knicks are trying to trade Kemba, Fournier and Burka to open up playing time for young players
Randle is not long for NY @ this rate. LAL vs. 76ers tonight...should be a good one on TNT.
but even more so compared to Obi Toppin. You could have said maybe it had something to do with the position he plays and how he's asked to play defensively, but Toppin being on the total opposite end of the spectrum says otherwise.
I hate to slightly defend Randle, but it's not fair to compare a bench guy to a starter on a lot of these metrics. If you know you're only gonna play 10-15 minutes every night, you can give much more energy than if you know it's going to be 35 minutes. Think of it like running different length races. The people in the longer races can't go as close to 100% (until the very end).
We have an all (second team) nba player that we can’t wait to run out of town. A guy we basically discovered and developed and were this close to scorched earth. It is a big deal, we’re just used to the shit show that is the Knicks.
We may get fair value in return but something tells me the player we get back won’t approach nba all second team.
Whatever works. I’m used to it. At least we have our picks!
I'd rather have Sabonis than Randle. He's a few years younger, isn't the headcase JR is, & similar talent. I think Sabonis would be a fan favorite in NY.
We may get fair value in return but something tells me the player we get back won’t approach nba all second team.
But do you think Randle will be a second team All-NBA player at any point going forward? I think it's safe to say we've already gotten the only great basketball we're going to get out of the guy, unfortunately.
We have an all (second team) nba player that we can’t wait to run out of town. A guy we basically discovered and developed and were this close to scorched earth. It is a big deal, we’re just used to the shit show that is the Knicks.
We may get fair value in return but something tells me the player we get back won’t approach nba all second team.
Whatever works. I’m used to it. At least we have our picks!
Knicks have young players and a bunch of picks, the Knicks are not in the worst position in the world..
Fans are not running Randle out of town, he is doing it to himself..
I don't know what's going on with him. He pens the article in the Players Tribune waxing about he loves being a Knick & now he's giving the thumbs down-a FU to the fans-& having fans ejected? Is the $ & thus pressure getting to him? Perhaps. I am just ready to move on. I think it is best for all parties.
Maybe Randle wants another Most Improved Player Award
I don't know what's going on with him. He pens the article in the Players Tribune waxing about he loves being a Knick & now he's giving the thumbs down-a FU to the fans-& having fans ejected? Is the $ & thus pressure getting to him? Perhaps. I am just ready to move on. I think it is best for all parties.
I expected the shooting numbers to come down, i expected the ppg to go down but this is more than that, this is just a lack of focus, lack of everything..
Something happened in that locker room where Randle basically said i dont care anymore and part of me thinka he has asked to be traded..
Its gotten so bad that i dont think he can be on the team post deadline..
You can see it is the young guys team, whether the vets or Thibs likes it, the young guys are taking over and they are the best players on this team..
Now the vets can support them and take a backseat to them or they can go the f away
I really don't want to include IQ in any deals either
If Lakers would take Randle Fournier, Burks and Kemba for westbrook and THT..i would do it..
Knicks could play the Kids with Rose and Gibson with westbrook..
Westbrook and Rj could bw your scorers with the pieces around them, Westbrook is best out in transition same with the young kids and westbrook can attack the paint that Thibs likes..
I don't even watch the games any more so you guys have
every right to tell me to shut the F up. But the Knicks did it again. They signed a guy to a huge long term contract after a good regular season with no fans (so not real NBA basketball) who got exposed in playoffs for what he really is before he got the contract and now they're screwed again. What a shock.
RE: I don't even watch the games any more so you guys have
every right to tell me to shut the F up. But the Knicks did it again. They signed a guy to a huge long term contract after a good regular season with no fans (so not real NBA basketball) who got exposed in playoffs for what he really is before he got the contract and now they're screwed again. What a shock.
How are they screwed? First off any team would of signed Randle to that contract, it was an absolute steal even if he regressed a little bit, bo one saw this coming.
Second Kbicks have probably 6 or 7 young guys that they can either build for the future with or use in a trade for a star, Knicks have drafted really well..
Third they arent in cap hell, they have plenty of flexibility.
fourth they have something like 15 picks in 4 years, they have a ton of draft capitol..
I wouldnt say they are screwed at all, are they going to make the playoffs? probably not but their future isnt effected by this year..
and no i am not telling you to f off because you admit you dont watch
RE: I really don't want to include IQ in any deals either
saying one of his sources - he calls him “the plug” - told him two weeks ago the Knicks started putting Randle’s name out there in trade talks, and don’t be surprised if he’s dealt at the deadline or this summer.
CP also reminded everyone this front office was shopping Julius that first off-season prior to his breakout year.
saying one of his sources - he calls him “the plug” - told him two weeks ago the Knicks started putting Randle’s name out there in trade talks, and don’t be surprised if he’s dealt at the deadline or this summer.
CP also reminded everyone this front office was shopping Julius that first off-season prior to his breakout year.
I would be more surprised if he gets traded.
Also Thibs is not the right coach for the kids on this team, I don't think he has the patience or wants to coach a bunch of younger players.
They have a bunch of decisions to be made over the next 6 months that will determine the direction of the franchise.
He is playing like he is throwing games
See where it goes
Can confirm this.
I think a fourth team would have to get involved, like Cleveland. Only real path to that I can see is:
To NY: Rubio, Barnes, Brunson, Kings Top Prot
To Sac: Randle
To Dal: Quickly and Cavs Protected First, Dallas Pick Knicks own
To Cle: Fournier
Kind of Like how Derozan and Lavine works, they are the 2 scorers and surrounded by shooters and defenders and 1 is on court at all times
Also Thibs is under fire which hopefully pushes him to change the lineups.
I think a fourth team would have to get involved, like Cleveland. Only real path to that I can see is:
To NY: Rubio, Barnes, Brunson, Kings Top Prot
To Sac: Randle
To Dal: Quickly and Cavs Protected First, Dallas Pick Knicks own
To Cle: Fournier
This would be something i would do in a second, i just dont see cavs taking Fournker
Toppin aside, he's getting out-worked by Old Man River Taj Gibson.
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That think if a Randle trade happens it’s a three way deal that sends Brunson to the Knicks.
I think a fourth team would have to get involved, like Cleveland. Only real path to that I can see is:
To NY: Rubio, Barnes, Brunson, Kings Top Prot
To Sac: Randle
To Dal: Quickly and Cavs Protected First, Dallas Pick Knicks own
To Cle: Fournier
This would be something i would do in a second, i just dont see cavs taking Fournker
Could probably figure out it and make it Burks with Knicks sending Dallas their 1st back and Cavs sending a 2nd to Dallas. More cash would need to move around I think
Alao Windhorst claims Knicks are trying to trade Kemba, Fournier and Burka to open up playing time for young players
Packers are one.
For Sabonis or Turner?
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For Sabonis or Turner?
They’ve just kept tabs on him so not sure, but would have to be one of them. I wonder if an Embid/Randle pairing could work and can work out something like Cj to Knicks, randle to Philly, Tobias to blazers
Alao Windhorst claims Knicks are trying to trade Kemba, Fournier and Burka to open up playing time for young players
Randle is not long for NY @ this rate. LAL vs. 76ers tonight...should be a good one on TNT.
It wouldnt be Randle for Sabonis straight up...
Relax its not that big of a deal
I hate to slightly defend Randle, but it's not fair to compare a bench guy to a starter on a lot of these metrics. If you know you're only gonna play 10-15 minutes every night, you can give much more energy than if you know it's going to be 35 minutes. Think of it like running different length races. The people in the longer races can't go as close to 100% (until the very end).
The Cavs-the FUCKING Cavs-are 1.5 or something back of the #1 seed. Insane NBA season.
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Relax its not that big of a deal
We have an all (second team) nba player that we can’t wait to run out of town. A guy we basically discovered and developed and were this close to scorched earth. It is a big deal, we’re just used to the shit show that is the Knicks.
We may get fair value in return but something tells me the player we get back won’t approach nba all second team.
Whatever works. I’m used to it. At least we have our picks!
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but if the playoffs started today the 4/5 matchup in the East would be Brooklyn/Milwaukee. I would absolutely love that.
The Cavs-the FUCKING Cavs-are 1.5 or something back of the #1 seed. Insane NBA season.
I mean Wiggins is an all star starter lol
But do you think Randle will be a second team All-NBA player at any point going forward? I think it's safe to say we've already gotten the only great basketball we're going to get out of the guy, unfortunately.
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Only the Knicks.... never ends.
Relax its not that big of a deal
We have an all (second team) nba player that we can’t wait to run out of town. A guy we basically discovered and developed and were this close to scorched earth. It is a big deal, we’re just used to the shit show that is the Knicks.
We may get fair value in return but something tells me the player we get back won’t approach nba all second team.
Whatever works. I’m used to it. At least we have our picks!
Knicks have young players and a bunch of picks, the Knicks are not in the worst position in the world..
Fans are not running Randle out of town, he is doing it to himself..
I don't know what's going on with him. He pens the article in the Players Tribune waxing about he loves being a Knick & now he's giving the thumbs down-a FU to the fans-& having fans ejected? Is the $ & thus pressure getting to him? Perhaps. I am just ready to move on. I think it is best for all parties.
I don't know what's going on with him. He pens the article in the Players Tribune waxing about he loves being a Knick & now he's giving the thumbs down-a FU to the fans-& having fans ejected? Is the $ & thus pressure getting to him? Perhaps. I am just ready to move on. I think it is best for all parties.
I expected the shooting numbers to come down, i expected the ppg to go down but this is more than that, this is just a lack of focus, lack of everything..
Something happened in that locker room where Randle basically said i dont care anymore and part of me thinka he has asked to be traded..
Its gotten so bad that i dont think he can be on the team post deadline..
You can see it is the young guys team, whether the vets or Thibs likes it, the young guys are taking over and they are the best players on this team..
Now the vets can support them and take a backseat to them or they can go the f away
I'd really rather include extra future picks than any of those guys.
Knicks could play the Kids with Rose and Gibson with westbrook..
Westbrook and Rj could bw your scorers with the pieces around them, Westbrook is best out in transition same with the young kids and westbrook can attack the paint that Thibs likes..
How are they screwed? First off any team would of signed Randle to that contract, it was an absolute steal even if he regressed a little bit, bo one saw this coming.
Second Kbicks have probably 6 or 7 young guys that they can either build for the future with or use in a trade for a star, Knicks have drafted really well..
Third they arent in cap hell, they have plenty of flexibility.
fourth they have something like 15 picks in 4 years, they have a ton of draft capitol..
I wouldnt say they are screwed at all, are they going to make the playoffs? probably not but their future isnt effected by this year..
and no i am not telling you to f off because you admit you dont watch
I'd really rather include extra future picks than any of those guys.
They’ve hung up the phone so far on any IQ involved deals
Also said teams are trying to get IQ thibking Knicks are desperate for a quick fix
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IQ/RJ/Obi/Grimes/Mitch/Deuce/Cam those are the core. No reason to get rid of any of them particularly for older players.
I'd really rather include extra future picks than any of those guys.
They’ve hung up the phone so far on any IQ involved deals
Good. He and Grimes are probably attractive to other teams, but they should building blocks here.
CP also reminded everyone this front office was shopping Julius that first off-season prior to his breakout year.
CP also reminded everyone this front office was shopping Julius that first off-season prior to his breakout year.
Also said all the vets are up for sale
I would be more surprised if he gets traded.
Also Thibs is not the right coach for the kids on this team, I don't think he has the patience or wants to coach a bunch of younger players.
They have a bunch of decisions to be made over the next 6 months that will determine the direction of the franchise.