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Dan Duggan clarifies # of draft picks

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 1:54 pm
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen has referenced having 11 draft picks this year a few times. I confirmed that the Giants only have nine picks.

They lost two seventh-rounders with the Billy Price trade and the conditions not being met in the Ryan Santoso trade.
The idiot who told  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2022 1:56 pm : link
Schoen that should be fired.
Are there no 7th round  
barens : 1/26/2022 1:56 pm : link
picks?
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 1:56 pm : link
as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.
He'll get at least two  
Scooter185 : 1/26/2022 1:56 pm : link
more when he trades Barkley and Jones before the draft

;-P
RE: Are there no 7th round  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15576126 barens said:
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picks?


No. We do not have a 7th rounder.
I'm assuming he mistakenly leaked  
UberAlias : 1/26/2022 1:57 pm : link
That they're planning to trade back.
these  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 1:57 pm : link
are the Giants picks
https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/giants - ( New Window )
RE: Are there no 7th round  
adamg : 1/26/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15576126 barens said:
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picks?


No 7s.

Two 1s, two 3s, two 5s though.
RE: I'm assuming he mistakenly leaked  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 1:58 pm : link
In comment 15576132 UberAlias said:
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That they're planning to trade back.


Occam's razor... moron got involved.
RE: RE: I'm assuming he mistakenly leaked  
UberAlias : 1/26/2022 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15576136 Eric from BBI said:
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That they're planning to trade back.



Occam's razor... moron got involved.
Occam's razor...I was kidding ;)
The  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 2:05 pm : link
trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.
Damn Chris Mara  
larryflower37 : 1/26/2022 2:09 pm : link
The sabotage beings...
Gettlemans 2021  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/26/2022 2:10 pm : link
Is the gift that keeps on giving.

FA splurge to put us in cap hell followed by bad trades giving up future picks to try to save the OL which he ignored.

Bravo
RE: BTW  
Vanzetti : 1/26/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:
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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.


I disagree. He should have double checked that number before he uttered it in public--especially at his first public appearance.

Suggests a degree of sloppiness to me.

RE: BTW  
Mike from Ohio : 1/26/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:
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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.


Well, it looks like Schoen’s evaluation of at least one front office guy is complete!
Bredeson  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/26/2022 2:13 pm : link
I believe they picked up a 5th for this year and a 6th or 7th for 2023. He still may have a place on the roster and they did get two picks back.
RE: Bredeson  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15576173 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I believe they picked up a 5th for this year and a 6th or 7th for 2023. He still may have a place on the roster and they did get two picks back.


In exchange for a 2022 fourth-round draft choice, the Giants acquired Bredeson, a 2022 fifth-round selection and a 2023 seventh-round choice. (Source: Giants)
RE: RE: BTW  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/26/2022 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15576167 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:


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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.



Well, it looks like Schoen’s evaluation of at least one front office guy is complete!


Chris, I came in here with a open mind but come on. Time to focus on those horses.
RE: The  
Jay on the Island : 1/26/2022 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:
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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.

The Giants did give up a 4th but they also acquired a 5th this year from Baltimore and a 7th in 2023. So they essentially traded down for Bredeson.
Schoen should really just pick 11 guys  
Jimmy Googs : 1/26/2022 2:15 pm : link
and maybe nobody in the NFL will notice...
Bredsen  
Gjfro : 1/26/2022 2:15 pm : link
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:05 pm : link : reply
trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s

While I still agree Eric, I thought we received Balt 5th round pick?
The problem with not having a 7th this year  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2022 2:19 pm : link
is that this would be a great year to draft a punter. If the Giants had 10 or 11 picks, including at least one 7th, they'd be able to draft 9 or 10 position players and still get a punter. Oh well.
RE: RE: The  
Vanzetti : 1/26/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15576180 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:


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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.


The Giants did give up a 4th but they also acquired a 5th this year from Baltimore and a 7th in 2023. So they essentially traded down for Bredeson.



Good point, Jay
RE: The idiot who told  
GiantsFan84 : 1/26/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15576125 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Schoen that should be fired.


probably abrams
The 5th rd pick from Baltimore  
Des51 : 1/26/2022 2:21 pm : link
is the 5th rd pick Baltimore received from KC, I believe.
any chance we  
Andy in Boston : 1/26/2022 2:23 pm : link
get any comp picks this year? For losing Tomlinson?
RE: any chance we  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15576206 Andy in Boston said:
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get any comp picks this year? For losing Tomlinson?


Nope.
RE: The  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/26/2022 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:
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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.


That trade really pissed me off
RE: RE: BTW  
BigBlueJ : 1/26/2022 2:38 pm : link
In comment 15576166 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:


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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.



I disagree. He should have double checked that number before he uttered it in public--especially at his first public appearance.

Suggests a degree of sloppiness to me.



LOL HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Let me audit your life. This board has completely gone off the deep end.
RE: RE: RE: BTW  
TheBlueprintNC : 1/26/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15576240 BigBlueJ said:
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In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:


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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.



I disagree. He should have double checked that number before he uttered it in public--especially at his first public appearance.

Suggests a degree of sloppiness to me.





LOL HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Let me audit your life. This board has completely gone off the deep end.


Tell everyone you are insane without telling them you are insane..
RE: RE: BTW  
Mike from SI : 1/26/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15576166 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:


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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.



I disagree. He should have double checked that number before he uttered it in public--especially at his first public appearance.

Suggests a degree of sloppiness to me.


Have you never worked at a fairly large organization or on a fairly large team where folks have to rely on their coworkers being accurate? My goodness. If you want the GM double checking every piece of information he gets that's all he'll do all day.
Maybe he won’t want the job if he doesn’t have those 2 7th round picks  
Spider56 : 1/26/2022 2:43 pm : link
Seriously, this topic is really a who gives a shit ... right now he should be focused on hiring a coach and evaluating everything else. Once the staff is in place they can turn attention to the draft ... heartburn over 2 7th rounders ... seriously???
RE: RE: The  
AcidTest : 1/26/2022 2:44 pm : link
In comment 15576219 gidiefor said:
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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.



That trade really pissed me off


The Price trade was even worse.
RE: The  
Justlurking : 1/26/2022 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:
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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.


The legacy of Gettleman is going to last eons
RE: The idiot who told  
Johnny5 : 1/26/2022 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15576125 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Schoen that should be fired.

Honestly it was O'Hara that said it in his interview. Seems like Schoen just ran with it after that.

I really don't see it as a big deal.
RE: RE: The idiot who told  
FranknWeezer : 1/26/2022 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15576192 GiantsFan84 said:
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Schoen that should be fired.


probably abrams


Nah. Hearing DG left a handwritten note on the 'credenzer' in his old office on the way out.
RE: BTW  
Costy16 : 1/26/2022 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:
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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.


Probably Chris Mara.
RE: RE: RE: The idiot who told  
Johnny5 : 1/26/2022 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15576272 FranknWeezer said:
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In comment 15576125 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Schoen that should be fired.


probably abrams



Nah. Hearing DG left a handwritten note on the 'credenzer' in his old office on the way out.

OK that made me laugh.... lol
RE: RE: The  
FranknWeezer : 1/26/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15576219 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:


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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.



That trade really pissed me off


Giddy, yep. That and some of DG's ridiculous cap management moves during the season this year. Knew he was gone but decided ot leave the next guy in as shitty a spot as possible.
RE: He'll get at least two  
NYPanos : 1/26/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15576128 Scooter185 said:
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more when he trades Barkley and Jones before the draft

;-P


I guess that’s what he had in mind lol.
RE: RE: The  
ajr2456 : 1/26/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15576219 gidiefor said:
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In comment 15576153 Eric from BBI said:


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trade for Ben Bredeson looks terrible. We gave up a #4 for him or we would have two #4s.



That trade really pissed me off


You could tell it was going to be a disaster when they needed to bring guys in right before the season.
I don't get all the hand wringing  
RollBlue : 1/26/2022 3:12 pm : link
of the Brederson trade. He was taken in the fourth round less than two years ago out of Michigan, by an organization that's had success drafting. He had moments where he looked decent, biggest issue was injuries. With a new set of coaches and scheme, he may very well be a denent backup at Guard for the next few years cheap.

Who do you think we could draft in the fourth round this year for the OL who would be better???
Agree the Giants shouldn't have screwed this up . . . .  
TC : 1/26/2022 3:12 pm : link
but the actual significance of not having those 7th round picks isn't huge. While, of course, there have been 7th round finds, the reality is most 7th round picks are little better than UDFA's.

I am sick and tired of being a laughingstock  
Essex : 1/26/2022 3:15 pm : link
how many times did Gettleman misstate the rules or some salary cap nuance. I don't blame Schoen because he is probably being fed this info, but the Giants support staff for the front office seems horrible.
RE: I am sick and tired of being a laughingstock  
broadbandz : 1/26/2022 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15576323 Essex said:
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how many times did Gettleman misstate the rules or some salary cap nuance. I don't blame Schoen because he is probably being fed this info, but the Giants support staff for the front office seems horrible.


yeah you dont suck this bad by accident. This franchise is still in big big trooulbe.
RE: I don't get all the hand wringing  
Johnny5 : 1/26/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15576315 RollBlue said:
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of the Brederson trade. He was taken in the fourth round less than two years ago out of Michigan, by an organization that's had success drafting. He had moments where he looked decent, biggest issue was injuries. With a new set of coaches and scheme, he may very well be a denent backup at Guard for the next few years cheap.

Who do you think we could draft in the fourth round this year for the OL who would be better???

I'm OK with Bredeson. I did not like the Price trade.
RE: I don't get all the hand wringing  
Four Aces : 1/26/2022 3:41 pm : link
In comment 15576315 RollBlue said:
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of the Brederson trade. He was taken in the fourth round less than two years ago out of Michigan, by an organization that's had success drafting. He had moments where he looked decent, biggest issue was injuries. With a new set of coaches and scheme, he may very well be a denent backup at Guard for the next few years cheap.

Who do you think we could draft in the fourth round this year for the OL who would be better???


Agreed... it's a SWAP of our 4th rd pick for a 5th rd pick from Baltimore. And we still have a 4th rd pick, since we had 2 4ths (one from the Bears).

Bredeson will compete for a starting gig this year or be a decent backup guard and provide much needed depth. Imagine if we didn't have Bredeson?! Our ONLY guard would be Shane Lemieux who didn't even play this year. It was a solid move by Gettlemen to acquire a guy drafted in the 4th rd (by a team many here respect for their drafting of OL) and has potential. Let it go.
Rollblue is a man who is thinking  
gtt350 : 1/26/2022 3:43 pm : link
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RE: Gettlemans 2021  
k2tampa : 1/26/2022 3:57 pm : link
In comment 15576165 GiantsRage2007 said:
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Is the gift that keeps on giving.

FA splurge to put us in cap hell followed by bad trades giving up future picks to try to save the OL which he ignored.

Bravo


I guess we will just ignore than he got us an extra 1st, 3rd and 5th this year and an extra 5th last year.
RE: I don't get all the hand wringing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/26/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15576315 RollBlue said:
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of the Brederson trade. He was taken in the fourth round less than two years ago out of Michigan, by an organization that's had success drafting. He had moments where he looked decent, biggest issue was injuries. With a new set of coaches and scheme, he may very well be a denent backup at Guard for the next few years cheap.

Who do you think we could draft in the fourth round this year for the OL who would be better???


Because on a team that started Matt Skura all year at left guard, he couldn't beat him out even when healthy.
RE: The problem with not having a 7th this year  
k2tampa : 1/26/2022 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15576189 81_Great_Dane said:
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is that this would be a great year to draft a punter. If the Giants had 10 or 11 picks, including at least one 7th, they'd be able to draft 9 or 10 position players and still get a punter. Oh well.


No need to waste a pick on a punter. NY will be an attractive place for both free agent punters and undrafted punters.
RE: BTW  
Red Right Hand : 1/26/2022 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15576127 Eric from BBI said:
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as I said on another thread, Schoen isn't to blame here. Some idiot on the Giants told him the team has 11 picks.
Someone looking to make him lose face......
Fire Schoen - its time for a new GM!  
PatersonPlank : 1/26/2022 10:20 pm : link
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Four years of terrible high priced free agent acquisitions  
Jimmy Googs : 1/26/2022 11:21 pm : link
Four years of poor drafting despite picking at the near top of the draft.
Four years of drama with transitioning out from Eli to failing with DJ
Four years of culture problems while ironically touting improving culture as a goal.
Four years of eye rolling press conferences from an incompetent arrogant GM.
Four years of losing at the highest rate in the entire NFL.

But yeah, it’s the 4th round pick we gave up for Bredeson that really pisses you off...
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