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NFT: Jewish Cuisine (Bill, this one's for you).

Dennis : 1/26/2022 2:56 pm
I don't know who wrote this. I am reposting without attribution:

"UNDERSTANDING JEWISH FOOD"

The Atkinstein Diet

"This goes back 2 generations, 3 if you are over 50. It also explains why many Jewish men died in their early 60’s with a non-functional cardiovascular system and looked like today’s men at 89.

Before we start, there are some variations in ingredients because of the various types of Jewish taste (Polack, Litvack, Deutch and Gallicianer). Sephardic is for another time.

"We will begin by focusing on a main ingredient which, unfortunately and undeservedly, has disappeared from our diet. I’m talking, of course, about SCHMALTZ (chicken fat). SCHMALTZ has, for centuries, been the prime ingredient in almost every Jewish dish, and I feel it’s time to revive it to its rightful place in our homes. (I have plans to distribute it in a green glass Gucci bottle with a label clearly saying: “low fat, no cholesterol, Newman’s Choice, extra virgin SCHMALTZ.”(It can’t miss!) Then there are grebenes – pieces of chicken skin, deep fried in SCHMALTZ, onions and salt until crispy brown (Jewish bacon). This makes a great appetizer for the next cardiologist’s convention.
There’s also a nice chicken fricassee (stew) using the heart, gorgle (neck), pipick (gizzard – a great delicacy, given to the favorite child), a fleegle (wing) or two, some ayelech (little premature eggs) and other various chicken innards, in a broth of SCHMALTZ, water, paprika, etc. We also have knishes (filled dough) and the eternal question, “Will that be liver, beef or potatoes, or all three?”
Other time-tested favorites are kishkeh, and its poor cousin, helzel (chicken or goose neck). Kishkeh is the gut of the cow, bought by the foot at the Kosher butcher. It is turned inside out, scalded and scraped. One end is sewn up and a mixture of flour, SCHMALTZ, onions, eggs, salt, pepper, etc., is spooned into the open end and squished down until it is full. The other end is sewn and the whole thing is boiled. Often, after boiling, it is browned in the oven so the skin becomes crispy Yummy!
My personal all-time favorite is watching my Zaida (grandpa) munch on boiled chicken feet.
For our next course we always had chicken soup with pieces of yellow-white, rubbery chicken skin floating in a greasy sea of lokshen (noodles), farfel (broken bits of matzah), tzibbeles (onions), mondlech (soup nuts), kneidlach (dumplings), kasha (groats), kliskelech and marech (marrow bones) . The main course, as I recall, was either boiled chicken, flanken, kackletten, hockfleish (chopped meat), and sometimes rib steaks, which were served either well done, burned or cremated. Occasionally we had barbecued liver done to a burned and hardened perfection in our own coal furnace.
Since we couldn’t have milk with our meat meals, beverages consisted of cheap soda (Kik, Dominion Dry, seltzer in the spritz bottles). In Philadelphia it was usually Franks Black Cherry Wishniak (vishnik).
Growing up Jewish
If you are Jewish and grew up in city with a large Jewish population, or are gentile with Jewish friends or associates, the following will invoke heartfelt memories.
The Yiddish word for today is PULKES (PUHL-kees). Translation: THIGHS. Please note: this word has been traced back to the language of one of the original Tribes of Israel, the Cellulites.
The only good advice that your Jewish mother gave you was: “Go! You might meet somebody!”
You grew up thinking it was normal for someone to shout “Are you okay?” through the bathroom door when you were in there longer than 3 minutes.
Your family dog responded to commands in Yiddish.
Every Saturday morning your father went to the neighborhood deli (called an “appetizing store”) for whitefish salad, whitefish “chubs”, lox (nova if you were rich!), herring, corned beef, roast beef, cole slaw, potato salad, a 1/2-dozen huge barrel pickles which you reached into the brine for, a dozen assorted bagels, cream cheese and rye bread (sliced while he waited). All of which would be strictly off-limits until Sunday morning.
Every Sunday afternoon was spent visiting your grandparents and/or other relatives.
You experienced the phenomenon of 50 people fitting into a 10-foot-wide dining room hitting each other with plastic plates trying to get to a deli tray.
You had at least one female relative who penciled on eyebrows which were always asymmetrical.
You thought pasta was stuff used exclusively for Kugel and kasha with bowties.
You were as tall as your grandmother by the age of seven.
You were as tall as your grandfather by age seven and a half.
You never knew anyone whose last name didn’t end in one of 5 standard suffixes (berg, baum, man, stein and witz).
You were surprised to discover that wine doesn’t always taste like cranberry sauce.
You can look at gefilte fish and not turn green.
When your mother smacked you really hard, she continued to make you feel bad for hurting her hand.
You can understand Yiddish but you can’t speak it.
You know how to pronounce numerous Yiddish words and use them correctly in context, yet you don’t know exactly what they mean. Kaynahurra.
You’re still angry at your parents for not speaking both Yiddish and English to you when you were a baby.
You have at least one ancestor who is somehow related to your spouse’s ancestor.
You thought speaking loud was normal.
You considered your Bar or Bat Mitzvah a “Get Out of Hebrew School Free” card.
You think eating half a jar of dill pickles is a wholesome snack.
You’re compelled to mention your grandmother’s “steel cannonballs” upon seeing fluffy matzo balls served at restaurants.
You buy 3 shopping bags worth of hot bagels on every trip to Stamford Hillor Edgware and carefully shlep them home like glassware. (Or, if you live near Chigwell, Manchester or another Jewish city hub, you drive 2 or 3 hours just to buy a dozen “real” bagels.)
Your mother or grandmother took personal pride when a Jew was noted for some accomplishment (showbiz, medicine, politics, etc.) and was ashamed and embarrassed when a Jew was accused of a crime as if they were relatives.
You thought only non-Jews went to sleep away colleges. Jews went to city schools… unless they had scholarships or made an Ivy League school.
And finally, you knew that Sunday night and the night after any Jewish holiday was designated for Chinese food.
Zei gezunt"
That's pretty good.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2022 3:15 pm : link
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I had  
Professor Falken : 1/26/2022 3:31 pm : link
a frank and potato pancake from 2nd Avenue Deli yesterday. So good.
Thanks, Dennis  
Bill in UT : 1/26/2022 3:39 pm : link
I get a lot of that stuff, but there's a lot also that I'm a little bit young for, lol. My mother spoke a bissel Yiddish when she didn't want us to understand her and never taught us any. Mostly I knew the obligatory curse words that are now fully ingrained in the wider culture. And I hated when we went to the Catskills and the comics would tell a whole joke in English and then the punchline in Yiddish. My dad did go to a basement fish store in Middle Village most Sundays. I loved kishka, tried to make some myself a couple of years ago, but epic fail. My wife has bought a jar of schmaltz. I usually render my own animal fats- duck, bacon, tallow. Don't roast enough chickens for schmaltz. As we speak, I've got frozen chicken skin in the freezer to slice and crisp up for a snack.
Jewish Cuisine  
nochance : 1/26/2022 3:41 pm : link
Sounds like an old Woody Allen Movie
RE: Thanks, Dennis  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15576370 Bill in UT said:
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I get a lot of that stuff, but there's a lot also that I'm a little bit young for, lol. My mother spoke a bissel Yiddish when she didn't want us to understand her and never taught us any. Mostly I knew the obligatory curse words that are now fully ingrained in the wider culture. And I hated when we went to the Catskills and the comics would tell a whole joke in English and then the punchline in Yiddish. My dad did go to a basement fish store in Middle Village most Sundays. I loved kishka, tried to make some myself a couple of years ago, but epic fail. My wife has bought a jar of schmaltz. I usually render my own animal fats- duck, bacon, tallow. Don't roast enough chickens for schmaltz. As we speak, I've got frozen chicken skin in the freezer to slice and crisp up for a snack.


Bill, same here. My parents would speak Yiddish so I wouldn't understand, but by the 5 years old I was fluent in it, and they didn't know that. So I understood everything, all the family secrets, and they didn't know that I knew. And I would blackmail them by threatening to reveal each's' secrets to the other, etc.
Ahh...schmaltz, and grebenes, which for the unenlightened is fried chicken fat. Yech! Who does that! However as someone pointed out to me, that's what bacon is. Just think, with a few marketing and advertising breaks, we could all be clamoring for, grebenes, lettuce and tomatoes sandwiches!
RE: Jewish Cuisine  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15576376 nochance said:
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Sounds like an old Woody Allen Movie


It is!
Brisket  
drake88 : 1/26/2022 3:50 pm : link
not mentioned?

The oldest smoked brisket from Texas is from a Jewish deli too.

Celery and crackers  
gtt350 : 1/26/2022 3:51 pm : link
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A family cuisine story:  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2022 3:52 pm : link
I do genealogy as a hobby. So did my father and my late brother, and my late brother's son is picking it up. Some parts of the tree we've been able to build out, other parts not so much.

One mystery is my maternal G Grandmother's family (My mother's mother's mother). We know the family name and we know my G Grandparents emigrated from a town in modern-day Belarus, but we don't know their origins. But my maternal grandmother used to make a sweet we all loved: Fluden. It occurred to me that I have never, ever seen Fluden in a Jewish bakery. So I looked it up.

It's Hungarian, aka Flodni.

Sometimes food is a clue to family history, hiding in plain sight.
Everything in this post is so true!  
dpinzow : 1/26/2022 3:53 pm : link
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RE: A family cuisine story:  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15576422 81_Great_Dane said:
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I do genealogy as a hobby. So did my father and my late brother, and my late brother's son is picking it up. Some parts of the tree we've been able to build out, other parts not so much.

One mystery is my maternal G Grandmother's family (My mother's mother's mother). We know the family name and we know my G Grandparents emigrated from a town in modern-day Belarus, but we don't know their origins. But my maternal grandmother used to make a sweet we all loved: Fluden. It occurred to me that I have never, ever seen Fluden in a Jewish bakery. So I looked it up.

It's Hungarian, aka Flodni.

Sometimes food is a clue to family history, hiding in plain sight.


My family is from Belarus also. We might be related.
RE: Everything in this post is so true!  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15576429 dpinzow said:
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+1. For me too.
brings back lots of good memories  
tangled up in blue : 1/26/2022 4:06 pm : link
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RE: RE: A family cuisine story:  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2022 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15576437 Dennis said:
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In comment 15576422 81_Great_Dane said:


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I do genealogy as a hobby. So did my father and my late brother, and my late brother's son is picking it up. Some parts of the tree we've been able to build out, other parts not so much.

One mystery is my maternal G Grandmother's family (My mother's mother's mother). We know the family name and we know my G Grandparents emigrated from a town in modern-day Belarus, but we don't know their origins. But my maternal grandmother used to make a sweet we all loved: Fluden. It occurred to me that I have never, ever seen Fluden in a Jewish bakery. So I looked it up.

It's Hungarian, aka Flodni.

Sometimes food is a clue to family history, hiding in plain sight.



My family is from Belarus also. We might be related.
I have ancestors from all over that region, but particularly (current name) Ashmyany, Minsk, Brest and Kobryn. Recently discovered the Belarus and Lithuania families had roots in Latvia stretching back hundreds of years. Who knew?
learned alot from this post....  
BCD : 1/26/2022 5:13 pm : link
thx Dennis great stuff!
RE: learned alot from this post....  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15576595 BCD said:
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thx Dennis great stuff!


My pleasure. I enjoyed the article also.
Two of my favorites: Potatonik, potato bread, and  
Marty in Albany : 1/26/2022 9:41 pm : link
tongue, beef tongue--try to find that in Albany.
RE: Two of my favorites: Potatonik, potato bread, and  
Dennis : 1/26/2022 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15577143 Marty in Albany said:
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tongue, beef tongue--try to find that in Albany.


Marty, I remember potatonik. Is that the same as potato kugel? I used to loved that, with the crispy, burnt edges.
Thanks, Dennis  
sphinx : 1/26/2022 11:11 pm : link
Good memory stuff.

Chinese food on Christmas and Easter also, plus a movie
Potatonik is more bread-like than kugel. It is a low loaf  
Marty in Albany : 1/26/2022 11:14 pm : link
that is firm enough to be sliced and buttered. It has a thick delicious crust.
RE: Potatonik is more bread-like than kugel. It is a low loaf  
sphinx : 1/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15577220 Marty in Albany said:
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that is firm enough to be sliced and buttered. It has a thick delicious crust.

Potato nik hot or cold ... mmmmm
My wife is Jewish  
PA Aggie : 1/26/2022 11:55 pm : link
I read this to her, she laughed her 'tuchus' off.

Growing up as a catholic in NJ, I have learned to tolerate certain Jewish things...loud get-togethers, kefelte fish...ugh

But learned to love certain things...bagels, lox, deli's, brisket, and of course...my wife. (No, she is not reading over my shoulder.)
Thank you for this. So much fun stuff in here.  
Matt M. : 1/26/2022 11:56 pm : link
As a few others in this thread, my family was from a town outside Minsk (still part of Russia at the time) as well. My grandmother will be 103, but she was born here. My son interviewed her a few years ago for a school project, but unfortunately, she didn't know a lot about the "old country" and a lot of what she did know she didn't remember. She said when her parents got to the US, they refused to speak Russian or mention life in the old country. They came here to get away, to flee the pogroms, and survive. They spoke some Russian, but wanted to be American. So, I know little else about that life other than the food.
RE: Thank you for this. So much fun stuff in here.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/27/2022 12:41 am : link
In comment 15577254 Matt M. said:
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As a few others in this thread, my family was from a town outside Minsk (still part of Russia at the time) as well. My grandmother will be 103, but she was born here. My son interviewed her a few years ago for a school project, but unfortunately, she didn't know a lot about the "old country" and a lot of what she did know she didn't remember. She said when her parents got to the US, they refused to speak Russian or mention life in the old country. They came here to get away, to flee the pogroms, and survive. They spoke some Russian, but wanted to be American. So, I know little else about that life other than the food.
very common. Often, people who lived in the old country just view it as an awful place that they don’t even want to talk about it. It was the case in my family.

One distant relative from a branch of my grandmother’s family wrote a memoir about growing up in my grandmother’s town I after WWII. She had some happy memories of the place but she couldn’t wait to get out, either. She eventually emigrated to Canada.
Wah Kee  
GruningsOnTheHill : 1/27/2022 3:47 am : link
Some of my earliest memories as a kid in the 1970s were at a tiny Chinese restaurant on Doyers St called Wah Kee (not to be confused with Wo Kee, a restaurant next door). There were just two waiters there: Fat Louie and Skinny Louie. A story my dad would always tell was when he was there once with the family in his youth, and his uncle spouted off in Yiddish about the slow service, to which the waiter--so accustomed to Jewish clientele--responded in Yiddish that he could take his business elsewhere if he wasn't happy.
It's always interesting to me to read about the old ethic/religious  
Victor in CT : 1/27/2022 7:53 am : link
traditions. We really try to maintain them in our family.
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