Updated Report: League Sources Feel Daboll to Dolphins

The plot thickens.

As someone who likes Flores this isn’t necessarily a bad development.

Bad news IMHO. Don't want any part of Flores.

I hope this isn't true.

The true nightmare scenario is if Mr Bend & Break 2.0 Patrick Graham returns as DC.

In comment 15576682 Chris684 said:

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The plot thickens. As someone who likes Flores this isn’t necessarily a bad development.

I wouldn’t bet the farm of course, but if true, then I’m happy if it’s Flores and would be extremely pissed if it’s Quinn

Not sure I want him here. That said, it sounds like a bunch of talk based on nothing.

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Want absolutely no part of Quinn or Frazier.

In comment 15576698 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:

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Not sure I want him here. That said, it sounds like a bunch of talk based on nothing.

Yeah. The fact that Daboll thought more of Tua than Hurts - a correct view - doesn’t mean he thinks Tua is a big time NFL QB.

looks like there was truth in it..

pin this but Leonard was wrong about the DC search the other day.

Dolphins have had one interview with Daboll, and that was last week. No word (unless it's late breaking) that a second interview has been set up.

This sounds like more conjecture and prediction based on history. "Daboll coached Tua in college and it would make sense for them to reunite". Ok maybe, but maybe not. Tua doesn't exactly translate seamlessly to pro-style systems.

In comment 15576690 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 15576682 Chris684 said: Quote: The plot thickens. As someone who likes Flores this isn’t necessarily a bad development. I wouldn’t bet the farm of course, but if true, then I’m happy if it’s Flores and would be extremely pissed if it’s Quinn

Quinn is growing on me.

It took awhile to sink in that my dream of Harbaugh is not happening.

to get fans all riled up.

Quinn or Flores would be disasterous.

like Daboll's agent fed Leonard some bullshit so the Giants ante up for Daboll's asking price.

In comment 15576722 Strahan91 said:

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to get fans all riled up.

NYDN is basically a troll newspaper...from Frank Isola down...

In comment 15576731 Professor Falken said:

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like Daboll's agent fed Leonard some bullshit so the Giants ante up for Daboll's asking price.

I was wondering the same thing.

100% agree on Frazier. I tend to agree on Quinn. I think there is a Peter Principle at play with Quinn; excellent DC, but crappy HC (like Spags).

but Flores and Quinn are fine choices. This was a strong group of candidates.

In comment 15576744 Go Terps said:

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but Flores and Quinn are fine choices. This was a strong group of candidates.

The thing about Quinn is the amount of attention he is getting around the NFL. He must have a great reputation.

everyone thinks Quinn is going to Denver.

😂

Was not a good coach. Only time his team did anything remotely positive is when he had Kyle Shanahan. I'd hate that.

Now somebody leaks that Miami like Daboll. Sounds like roundabout contract bargaining.

I feel like it's a fairly underwhelming group outside of Harbaugh. And while I see the allure with Daboll but after 2 of our last 3 were disastrous 1st timers there's certainly a lot to be said about Quinn or Flores who have shown they can handle the job. But they also come with their own concerns.

Maybe it's just a residual losing hangover but none of them inspire a ton of confidence.

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In comment 15576744 Go Terps said: Quote: but Flores and Quinn are fine choices. This was a strong group of candidates. The thing about Quinn is the amount of attention he is getting around the NFL. He must have a great reputation.

He's apparently incredibly well-liked. Also lends credence to the rumor that he'd bring Mike McDaniel in as OC which I'm sure would be attractive to teams.

I think Flores would be the best chance for the Giants to get back to legit relevancy, and quicker than maybe we’d anticipate. The Dolphins might have a worse roster than us and look what he was able to do there. I hope he gets the gig. But I’ll be on board with whoever they choose.

The Eagles were about to hire MacAdoo out from underneath the Giants?

I could get behind the likes of Brian Flores. Heck, he may bring back Judge as his ST Coordinator!


I kid...

show that he refuses to be leveraged by anyone. miami and their best cardiologist can take him. put the league on notice he's not running a best friends club.

Regardless of Daboll's status, I would feel better if we at least give him a call.

2 good years in Atlanta with Shanny, then busted once Shanny left. His defense in Dallas this year was underwhelming to say the least, 19th in yards and. 26th in points. Hard pass.

The meltdown on BBI-moi included-if we end up with Frazier...

In comment 15576763 ryanmkeane said:

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I think Flores would be the best chance for the Giants to get back to legit relevancy, and quicker than maybe we’d anticipate. The Dolphins might have a worse roster than us and look what he was able to do there. I hope he gets the gig. But I’ll be on board with whoever they choose.

I’m in the same boat. I want Flores, but I’m fine with Daboll. I would be disappointed in Quinn.

In comment 15576766 Eric on Li said:

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show that he refuses to be leveraged by anyone. miami and their best cardiologist can take him. put the league on notice he's not running a best friends club.

Right on, Jilted Lover should be the look a freshly minted executive goes for.

Worth reading.
Houston Press article - ( New Window )

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to get fans all riled up.

Yea Pat Leonard isn’t credible. I’m not saying this can’t happen but I don’t think Leonard actually knows anything. He’s goal as always is to generate clicks by pissing giants fans of that’s it.

Daboll or Flores.

The more I read about Quinn...fine. I think he'd assemble a good staff.

Leslie Frazier...Lord no. And good luck selling that hire!

Make shit up, rile some up, & move on as if nothing happens if Daboll ends up here as HC. & then repeat a week or two later with DC options.

In comment 15576768 Matt M. said:

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Regardless of Daboll's status, I would feel better if we at least give him a call.

Harbaugh picks the GM, not the other way around.

In comment 15576768 Matt M. said:

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Regardless of Daboll's status, I would feel better if we at least give him a call.

There is no chance in hell that a first time GM would bring on a domineering HC like Harbaugh.

In comment 15576783 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Make shit up, rile some up, & move on as if nothing happens if Daboll ends up here as HC. & then repeat a week or two later with DC options.

Frank Isola was employed by the Daily News for over 20 years. Enough said

Flores under any circumstances.

In comment 15576777 cosmicj said:

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Worth reading. Houston Press article - ( New Window )

Very interesting RE: Gannon. Every Eagle fan I know would be psyched to see him move on. Sirianni basically called him out in a post game presser at one point.

Apparently Oakley has a book coming out with Isola. I listened to Oak on Bill Simmons' pod earlier.

who is going to be the OC and QB coach - anyone know?

In comment 15576771 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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The meltdown on BBI-moi included-if we end up with Frazier...

I dont know how you sell it to the fans. Just not a head coach.

In comment 15576799 Andy in Boston said:

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who is going to be the OC and QB coach - anyone know?

There were some rumblings about O'Brien as OC but that's the only name I've come across

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Worth reading. Houston Press article - ( New Window )

Jack Easterby's Wikipedia page is quite a read. That guy sounds like Gettleman-level poison.

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In comment 15576763 ryanmkeane said: Quote: I think Flores would be the best chance for the Giants to get back to legit relevancy, and quicker than maybe we’d anticipate. The Dolphins might have a worse roster than us and look what he was able to do there. I hope he gets the gig. But I’ll be on board with whoever they choose. I’m in the same boat. I want Flores, but I’m fine with Daboll. I would be disappointed in Quinn.

ITA.

In comment 15576716 Eric from BBI said:

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pin this but Leonard was wrong about the DC search the other day.

Leonard is wrong about almost everything, yet he is treated like Bob Woodward by many around here. The dude is a troll.

In comment 15576722 Strahan91 said:

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to get fans all riled up.

Thus

Intrigued me until I saw the tweet about him wanting Darrell Bevell as an OC. He was a big reason why Seattle's offense sputtered at the end of his tenure.

If we all hated Garrett, Bevell is no upgrade.

Are the 2 I want, but it doesn't look good.

an NFL coach for his entire career and he wants to take his shot with Tua Tagovaiola? If that's true, I don't want him anyway. But it's probably not true...

In comment 15576836 Chris in Philly said:

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an NFL coach for his entire career and he wants to take his shot with Tua Tagovaiola? If that's true, I don't want him anyway. But it's probably not true...

Maybe he sees something good in Tua and doesn't see something good in Jones.

Can that be a possibility?

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In comment 15576777 cosmicj said: Quote: Worth reading. Houston Press article - ( New Window ) Jack Easterby's Wikipedia page is quite a read. That guy sounds like Gettleman-level poison.

Have you read this? Totally insane.
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In comment 15576836 Chris in Philly said:

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an NFL coach for his entire career and he wants to take his shot with Tua Tagovaiola? If that's true, I don't want him anyway. But it's probably not true...

If Schoen truly believes that DJ can be the guy, does he really have any other choice but to name Daboll, to have any realistic chance of his improving? If it’s just GM-speak, then it should be Flores, imo

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everyone thinks Quinn is going to Denver.

I heard Chicago likes him too.

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In comment 15576748 Eric from BBI said: Quote: everyone thinks Quinn is going to Denver. I heard Chicago likes him too.

Everyone seems to like him. Six teams. But he apparently likes the situation in Denver if you believe the press.

Has Denver not met it's Rooney Rule requirements?

*its.

In comment 15576816 Go Terps said:

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In comment 15576777 cosmicj said: Quote: Worth reading. Houston Press article - ( New Window ) Jack Easterby's Wikipedia page is quite a read. That guy sounds like Gettleman-level poison.

He is worse than that. The guy is a fraud and seems to have a cult like hold on McNair

And he will get his way and have Daniel be qb this year with what sounds like the same plan as the last couple years

And I’m supposed to think that schoen is running the show?

In comment 15576771 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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The meltdown on BBI-moi included-if we end up with Frazier...

Just cking boxes is my guess. So I'm standing down on Frazier...for now.

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And he will get his way and have Daniel be qb this year with what sounds like the same plan as the last couple years And I’m supposed to think that schoen is running the show?

Guess you are pulling for Frazier then. Have to assume that would be the best guy up up Schoen after Daboll. That would be a Schoen pick.

not saying it can't happen, money talks and will always be a wildcard we can't predict, but Daboll's also seen Tua in the NFL, facing him several times (don't know if Tua was in each game the teams played) and can clearly see what he's limited by.

Going from Josh Allen to Tua is such a massive difference in almost every category. Daboll has to know the ceiling with Tua is capped, he's just too limited physically for it not to be.

I still think we end up with either Daboll or Flores. I started out as Flores man, but switched to Daboll. That said, fine with either. Just no Frazier.

In comment 15576884 Sean said:

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In comment 15576876 GiantsFan84 said: Quote: And he will get his way and have Daniel be qb this year with what sounds like the same plan as the last couple years And I’m supposed to think that schoen is running the show? Guess you are pulling for Frazier then. Have to assume that would be the best guy up up Schoen after Daboll. That would be a Schoen pick.

I am against hiring a defensive coach as head coach. If they aren’t going to daboll who is my first choice I’d have looked at Caldwell and McDaniel (SF). I’d also be interviewing Dorsey and Lombardi

Getting 9 wins out of that dogshit roster was a masterpiece.

And that’s after 1-7! Half the teams in this league would be making business decisions.

As some who can throw a 65 yard in the air strike on the road in January like the other night.

that got everybody here all riled up when they learned Daboll was the front runner but John Mara was going to override him for his favorite Flores?

Looking for a good sinister viewpoint here please.

In the search for a HC for all the teams.

I am not impressed with most of the candidates.

If Giants really want to give Jones his best shot than Daboll would be best. Sounds like Mara wants that but is also tired of first time head coaches so in comes Flores. But Flores would need to bring in a big time offensive coordinator.

So I think it is a toss up between Daboll and Flores.

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In comment 15576836 Chris in Philly said: Quote: an NFL coach for his entire career and he wants to take his shot with Tua Tagovaiola? If that's true, I don't want him anyway. But it's probably not true... Maybe he sees something good in Tua and doesn't see something good in Jones. Can that be a possibility?

It has nothing to do with Jones. If he comes here he has an avenue to get the next QB he wants to work with in the draft. But Carl Bernstein here is saying specifically that he wants to work with Tua. Specifically. That seems awfully silly to me.

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In comment 15576915 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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As some who can throw a 65 yard in the air strike on the road in January like the other night.

I’m not sure anyone sees Tua like that.

In comment 15576922 Chris in Philly said:

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In comment 15576843 Producer said: Quote: In comment 15576836 Chris in Philly said: Quote: an NFL coach for his entire career and he wants to take his shot with Tua Tagovaiola? If that's true, I don't want him anyway. But it's probably not true... Maybe he sees something good in Tua and doesn't see something good in Jones. Can that be a possibility? It has nothing to do with Jones. If he comes here he has an avenue to get the next QB he wants to work with in the draft. But Carl Bernstein here is saying specifically that he wants to work with Tua. Specifically. That seems awfully silly to me.

I'm with you. Tua wouldn't excite me. Maybe he sees Tua as a chance at two bites at the apple. He knows what Tua can do, he does have one elite trait, accuaracy. And if it doesn't work out with him he'll get t o pick his own guy.

Hey Eric, what does Peppers say?

Would Daboll want to stay in the AFC East and face the juggernaut he helped engineer? It makes zero sense for him to prefer to face his old team with a QB he tutored twice a year.

When Pat said we were finalizing a deal with Patricia.

The pressure of the NY media market, after seeing what happened to the last 3 ! I can understand if that’s the case and if so, he shouldn’t be here. Flores might thrive here !

In comment 15576961 Joey in VA said:

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Would Daboll want to stay in the AFC East and face the juggernaut he helped engineer? It makes zero sense for him to prefer to face his old team with a QB he tutored twice a year.

On the list of factors, this would rank far below salary, length of contract, organizational stability, relationship with GM and owner, city, weather, family needs/preferences. In fact, he may relish the challenge of playing against his former friends and colleagues. The Giants have fired four coaches in the last seven seasons and despite the GM being an ally, you have an owner who fosters a collaborative attitude of too many cooks in the kitchen.

They have only interviewed one.

In comment 15576916 NYGgolfer said:

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that got everybody here all riled up when they learned Daboll was the front runner but John Mara was going to override him for his favorite Flores? Looking for a good sinister viewpoint here please.

It's possible he's gotten the skinny (maybe even on the side from Schoen) that Mara wants Flores.

We should know by Fri Nightish what the endgame is either way.

But Tua has improved YoY - Jones continues to go backwards in each of his three seasons - and he's played with an OL even worse than what Jones has here. And being in the AFCE, Daboll has very likely kept a close eye on Tua.

So, it's not that crazy for Daboll, along with his experience in Tuscaloosa with Tua, to have strong interest in Miami.

If I'm Chicago, and I have this diamond in the rough with Fields, I'm wining and dining Daboll all weekend. Starting tomorrow... ;)

In comment 15576731 Professor Falken said:

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like Daboll's agent fed Leonard some bullshit so the Giants ante up for Daboll's asking price.

Precisely.

In comment 15576846 Strahan91 said:

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In comment 15576816 Go Terps said: Quote: In comment 15576777 cosmicj said: Quote: Worth reading. Houston Press article - ( New Window ) Jack Easterby's Wikipedia page is quite a read. That guy sounds like Gettleman-level poison. Have you read this? Totally insane. Link - ( New Window )

Wow!

The #Dolphins plan to have second interviews early next week, source said, as they continue their search for a head coach. Despite the flurry of activity today, no rush in Miami.
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The #Dolphins plan to have second interviews early next week, source said, as they continue their search for a head coach. Despite the flurry of activity today, no rush in Miami. Link - ( New Window )

Which probably means they realize Daboll to NY Giants get's done by this weekend.