These offensive lineman should not be with the team next year
Solder, Hernandez, Price, Skura,Bederson these lineman were beat repeatedly all season. Too many times when Barkey received the hand off there was a defensive lineman in his face or no hole. They should draft Ikem Elkwonu or Evan Neal with their 1st pick.
The rest, yeah
The rest, yeah
+1.
There is no one safe right now except for Thomas, and Gates who is rehabbing. You bring lemieux and Peart into camp, but they can and need to do better.
Can't fix it all in one off-season, but the hole they are in right now means a multi year rebuild just to "fix" the O-line.
(Please don't give me the chiefs did it in 1 off-season nonsense...this team only has Thomas in the cupboard right now...they don't even have a single viable starter elsewhere much less a backup)
We only have 6 OL under contract for next year, and Bredeson is 1 of only 3-4 who will be healthy. We HAVE to keep him, at least for depth. Even with him, we will have 4-5 new faces on the OL, with little cap space to bring in vets.
Seriously
Price IMO is a decent backup- nothing more, nothing less. Wouldn’t be opposed to bring him back at a backups salary.
Peart is likely on PUP next year. Best case moving forward is he is a swing tackle.
Bredeson is only other guy I’d consider bringing back. He’s under contract for cheap. As mentioned by another poster, he’s still young and can be developed. Depth with a chance to be more than just depth.
There is 0 benefit to cutting him. With that, why not bring him back as depth and another body to compete. Best case scenario, the Giants realize they have 2 or 3 other options that are better and they cut him before rosters shrink to 53- makes no difference.
We only have 6 OL under contract for next year, and Bredeson is 1 of only 3-4 who will be healthy. We HAVE to keep him, at least for depth. Even with him, we will have 4-5 new faces on the OL, with little cap space to bring in vets.
Exactly. Murphy I think is RFA, so another injured body that you can keep at minimum contract. I would like to keep Skura or Price if they’re willing to sign for vet minimum to compete. Right now the only center on the roster is Gates, and who knows if he will even suit up next year.
“Zero-lineman who need to be cut”
Not a popular opinion! :-)
They might even draft three in the first three rounds.
If they can add one decent pickup during free agency, and hit on all three draft choices, we are in business.
I realize that this is probably unrealistic, but my fingers are crossed.
Until then, I guess I'll just keep wearing my new Josh Allen jersey.
There is 0 benefit to cutting him. With that, why not bring him back as depth and another body to compete. Best case scenario, the Giants realize they have 2 or 3 other options that are better and they cut him before rosters shrink to 53- makes no difference.
The reason you don’t do this is because Solder can no longer play Tackle at a sufficient enough level. He hasn’t been able to for several years.
Disregard the liability to the cap, he is a liability on the field which is worse...
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But Solder is being paid 4mil by the Giants whether he’s here or cut.
There is 0 benefit to cutting him. With that, why not bring him back as depth and another body to compete. Best case scenario, the Giants realize they have 2 or 3 other options that are better and they cut him before rosters shrink to 53- makes no difference.
The reason you don’t do this is because Solder can no longer play Tackle at a sufficient enough level. He hasn’t been able to for several years.
Disregard the liability to the cap, he is a liability on the field which is worse...
Googs is right...the no name kid they called up from the practice squad, Cunningham (who likely couldn't start on an XFL roster if given the chance) is a far better player than nate solder right now. Its not even close.
Not having Solder, even as the 4th OT, is addition by subtraction. Watch the tape. He literally cannot play football anymore.
2022 was voided in his contract, and the 4M cap hit is the balance of his various bonuses.
2022 was voided in his contract, and the 4M cap hit is the balance of his various bonuses.
Also this...I swear 2021 was his walk year.
Price IMO is a decent backup- nothing more, nothing less. Wouldn’t be opposed to bring him back at a backups salary.
Peart is likely on PUP next year. Best case moving forward is he is a swing tackle.
Bredeson is only other guy I’d consider bringing back. He’s under contract for cheap. As mentioned by another poster, he’s still young and can be developed. Depth with a chance to be more than just depth.
Let's be completely honest. Other than Thomas there is no OL we can't find better value for in the draft or FA (for a reasonable price). We know the new GM Schoen will be looking at that closely.
The Giants go nowhere until they improve the abysmal OL performance. No QB can perform at a decent level with the current OL. None. Let's be brutally honest. Would any of the QB's in the playoffs, despite their gifts, brought the Giants to the playoffs behind a line like that?
Even with his exceptional skills Patrick Mahomes couldn't overcome his injured OL in the Super Bowl. Daniel Jones isn't even in that stratosphere on a normal day. OL becomes a priority no matter who the QB is next year.
This is correct