I know we are limited to what’s available but after these past 6 years, I wish there was someone I was truly excited about. I don’t love the red flags with Flores and I’m not sold he would be able to put together a staff that could fix the offense. Daboll is another soon to be first time head coach who has had success with one of the best young quarterbacks and offenses in the NFL but we have no idea how he would be as a head coach. Quinn doesn’t inspire anything in any of us IMO and I hated Graham’s defense so I’m not sure how we could think he would be a successful, inspiring head coach.
I guess Daboll would be my first choice out of these guys but IMO this is a really uninspiring group of candidates.
I'm fine with Daboll & Flores. I've warmed up to Quinn the more I've read about the staff he'd assemble. Frazier & Graham...Good God no.
He represents exactly what I want. A CEO program builder.
I feel like all these candidates are good coordinators, but don't fit that CEO role. Maybe Flores?
NFL coach who knows Brian Daboll, Joe Judge and Brian Flores:
‘For the locker room, Flores is going to feel a lot like Joe Judge. It’s going to be the same show. Daboll has been more places, seen it done more ways. That’s a big difference.’
TOTALLY!!! I’m very interested, obviously. But they seriously have to show me something before I EVER get excited again.
Any way you cut it though it's an underwhelming group this cycle. I don't think it's a coincidence that teams are casting such "wide nets" and "taking their time". I think it's just as much a case of not being blown away by anyone in particular and seeing if someone else can pleasantly surprise in an interview.
Ok.. and how do you feel about Andy Reid now.
I view this as going one of two ways: Daboll to modernize the offense and develop a new quarterback, or an experienced in Flores or Quinn to bring some much needed stability and experience. Either approach is viable.
I like this group better than the Shurmur or Judge groups.
This take is spectacularly dumb
I can see a possibility where whoever they hire never wins a playoff game but does lift the franchise from the gutter.
Andy Reid doesn't seem to struggle with it. He's done nothing but field consistently excellent teams for 20 years.
I feel pretty good about Daboll of those who are supposedly in the hunt. He seems like he can develop talent and build an offense to fit the talent (vs sticking square pegs into round holes).
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I'm pretty vehemently anti-fat guy coach, largely going back to the Andy Reid with the Eagles/Charlie Weis at ND days - nothing says 'not a leader' like a guy who cannot quell his addiction to snacks. Daboll is a big boy. I don't know if that really grabs an audience of hyperfit dudes.
Ok.. and how do you feel about Andy Reid now.
Well, not really printable given it mostly has to do with the state of his children. And Mahomes could probably take a team coached by a trash can to the playoffs.
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I'm pretty vehemently anti-fat guy coach, largely going back to the Andy Reid with the Eagles/Charlie Weis at ND days - nothing says 'not a leader' like a guy who cannot quell his addiction to snacks. Daboll is a big boy. I don't know if that really grabs an audience of hyperfit dudes.
This take is spectacularly dumb
Found the fatty ;)
Also, these college coaches are getting massive money to coach college, so I don’t see these guys making the jump to the NFL as frequently.
So whether it is Daboll or Flores (I’m fine with either), the bigger concern is building up the front office. The Giants are so far behind with regards to the front office that it’s no wonder they can’t compete. While a throw away line, Schoen talking about how the draft room is still using magnets is telling. We were supposed to believe Dave Gettleman was implementing an analytics process? Please.
Go hire either Daboll or Flores and then add some bodies into the front office. Schoen needs to hire some trusted voices, and most importantly an assistant GM.
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I'm pretty vehemently anti-fat guy coach, largely going back to the Andy Reid with the Eagles/Charlie Weis at ND days - nothing says 'not a leader' like a guy who cannot quell his addiction to snacks. Daboll is a big boy. I don't know if that really grabs an audience of hyperfit dudes.
This take is spectacularly dumb
Found the fatty ;)
I guess fat shaming is OK now on BBI?
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I'm pretty vehemently anti-fat guy coach, largely going back to the Andy Reid with the Eagles/Charlie Weis at ND days - nothing says 'not a leader' like a guy who cannot quell his addiction to snacks. Daboll is a big boy. I don't know if that really grabs an audience of hyperfit dudes.
This take is spectacularly dumb
Found the fatty ;)
I guess fat shaming is OK now on BBI?
You're awful sensitive to this stuff, huh?
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I'm pretty vehemently anti-fat guy coach, largely going back to the Andy Reid with the Eagles/Charlie Weis at ND days - nothing says 'not a leader' like a guy who cannot quell his addiction to snacks. Daboll is a big boy. I don't know if that really grabs an audience of hyperfit dudes.
This take is spectacularly dumb
Found the fatty ;)
I guess fat shaming is OK now on BBI?
Are you the little fat boy? - ( New Window )
I view this as going one of two ways: Daboll to modernize the offense and develop a new quarterback, or an experienced in Flores or Quinn to bring some much needed stability and experience. Either approach is viable.
I like this group better than the Shurmur or Judge groups.
Totally agree. I do like Flores best but I'm OK with any of those 3.
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NFL coach who knows Brian Daboll, Joe Judge and Brian Flores:
‘For the locker room, Flores is going to feel a lot like Joe Judge. It’s going to be the same show. Daboll has been more places, seen it done more ways. That’s a big difference.’ #Giants #Dolphins #Bills
Were any of Vrabel, Shanahan, McVay, Lafleur, McDermott, Taylor, Kingsbury, McCarthy, Siriani, Stefanski, etc loved when hired?
I have liked Flores the past couple of years in Miami but the circumstances of his departure from Miami is a concern though it could be nothing. I just don't want a guy who is self-destructive or passive-aggressive (i.e., not talking to his coaches). Also, having a DC background makes him less ideal to me. In any case, I think he can be a success here if the potential "personality" issues are determined to be nothing.
I have liked Flores the past couple of years in Miami but the circumstances of his departure from Miami is a concern though it could be nothing. I just don't want a guy who is self-destructive or passive-aggressive (i.e., not talking to his coaches). Also, having a DC background makes him less ideal to me. In any case, I think he can be a success here if the potential "personality" issues are determined to be nothing.
Flores wasn’t even a DC; he jumped from linebackers coach with the Patriots to the Dolphins head coaching job.
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that would be a Scheon decision IMO with the Mara ok of course.
I have liked Flores the past couple of years in Miami but the circumstances of his departure from Miami is a concern though it could be nothing. I just don't want a guy who is self-destructive or passive-aggressive (i.e., not talking to his coaches). Also, having a DC background makes him less ideal to me. In any case, I think he can be a success here if the potential "personality" issues are determined to be nothing.
Flores wasn’t even a DC; he jumped from linebackers coach with the Patriots to the Dolphins head coaching job.
Not a deal breaker but I think his background is primarily defense.
Member since 2001 and I can honestly say this is the first time I’ve ever noticed a post of yours. I checked your profile because I assumed you were a new troll being an asshole. You’re pretty fucking irrelevant.
Just gotta hope we're wrong