“ Seems to be a growing sentiment that #Giants might want an experienced head coach, after falling short with Ben McAdoo and Joe Judge. That it's important to pair experienced head coach with 1st-time GM. Reminds me of "adult in the room" Pat Shurmur my 1st week on the job”
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Yes.
1) Missing out on Dabolls
2) Getting stuck with Flores
3) Likely also getting stuck with Mr Bend & Break Graham
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All the reports about Flores are that he was fired because he wanted too much control and worked poorly with the front office.
If Flores is forced on Schoen, this could wind up being a disaster.
Let’s just jump to conclusions now
Second- if you want Flores who the fuck cares how he got here? The new gM clearly has say in this and is more than likely fully on board.
Third- who knows if Daboll has said he is leaning towards Miami and thus wouldn't be coming here anyway?
Too many here just follow some posters and "others" here as considered authorities and their endless diatribes on the Mara family and all the issues and dysfunction becomes proof without any first hand knowledge.
What if he brought either of these names with him as OC?
Mike McDaniel from SF or Mike Kafka from KC?
Unless you consider Flores to be a significantly lesser value as a coach than Dabol, whom I prefer, you really should be more careful with your assumptions about what s happening behind closed doors.
Second- if you want Flores who the fuck cares how he got here? The new gM clearly has say in this and is more than likely fully on board.
Third- who knows if Daboll has said he is leaning towards Miami and thus wouldn't be coming here anyway?
Too many here just follow some posters and "others" here as considered authorities and their endless diatribes on the Mara family and all the issues and dysfunction becomes proof without any first hand knowledge.
Wow, well done!
As long as John/Chris are in charge we'll always be sick hoping the blind squirrel finds a nut. These assholes treat the Giants like a toy.
Second- if you want Flores who the fuck cares how he got here? The new gM clearly has say in this and is more than likely fully on board.
Third- who knows if Daboll has said he is leaning towards Miami and thus wouldn't be coming here anyway?
Too many here just follow some posters and "others" here as considered authorities and their endless diatribes on the Mara family and all the issues and dysfunction becomes proof without any first hand knowledge.
John Mara himself said a week or two ago that he doesn't blame the fanbase for not trusting him and that him winning the fans' trust back "won't happen overnight."
Straight from Mara's mouth. I don't really think it's group-think. The guy has gotten the strong majority of his decisions wrong over the past decade. That is not 'group-think.' That is fact.
Most of the vocal fans on BBI just seem to want whatever John and Chris Mara don’t...
Something the Giants haven’t done correctly in 18 years.
Oh shit.
If he goes to Miami, then a Quinn or Flores is not a bad 2nd choice. I'd even say Id rather have Graham as the HC than Frasier.
Someone mentioned it earlier, it might not be this hire that gets us to the promised land. Maybe we hire an experienced coach goes 3 years, etc. Then one of the coordinators moves up. This is probably not a 1-2 year fix.
It reinforces the Rooney rule through the false flag narrative that Mara wanted Flores
BUT he eventually deferred to the GM to make the hire. True to his word.
SAVAGES SATED (for now)
Or he’s just fuckin with ya. He has definitely gone out of his way to mention chris a few times. A little double barrel bird for the masses?
I actually looked up the daboll to Miami. Did some surfing. So many outlets produced content on that tweet. LottA mileage for some uncredited speculation.
I personally think an experienced coach would be better for this team and fan base, but more so I want Shane(sic) to have his guy. If we’re gonna fire these mopes in 2 years, might as well let them go down swinging. A courtesy that was not extended to the last. 3 mopes
Lots of noise and speculation out there but what are the actions?
Also, believe Schoen indicated he’d like to have a coach in place by the end of the weekend.
Personally, I am not inspired by any of the candidates. Daboll is at least interesting because of his offensive mind. Flores did a good job in Miami with a roster slightly better in quality than that of the Giants. Would have to believe Schoen will get the full story on what happened in Miami. I think Quinn will go to Denver.
Not sure any of the others are on the same level.
I think it will be Daboll because Schoen knows him best and because there are a lot of out of work good DCs on the market. I would also not be surprised if Graham is kept. Yes he was not as good this year as last - but remember how we all were worried he might leave for somewhere else. So which guy is it - 2020 or 2021. Did Graham get stupid this year?
So, who will be Daboll's OC?
^^^^^This! Again everyone is hanging on every single phrase or word. Just relax and let the “process”,as Schoen said in his PC, work
In my best John McEnroe impression; “You can’t be serious!”
stupid way to look at it
He may still want Daboll. He still needs to go thru the motions of interviewing other candidates. Let the process play out as the dominos have not started falling yet. Seems to me that people are waiting for the Giants position to be settled.
Someone who has been a HC before probably can do that
I wanna vomit.
I like the idea of Daboll, but leaves Shoen open to accusations that he did not do a thorough search.
If it is Flores, I hope he has a good plan for the offensive side of the ball.
As some have mentioned, the bigger concern is the meddling from the ownership group, specifically Mara. Especially considering just yesterday, at the introductory press conference, Schoen stated specifically that he wants to find the best coach which doesn't necessarily mean the most experienced.
I still think it’s between Daboll & Flores. Could see Flores really impressing today.