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Kadarius Toney Releases Album Per His Twitter

Saos1n : 1/27/2022 7:42 am
Ultimately, I don’t care as much as some, but didn’t he say he wasn’t going to pursue it, for now? If I’m off on that, fine. Can’t remember exactly
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RE: I love his track called “The Shoe Don’t Fit”  
Section331 : 1/27/2022 10:08 am : link
In comment 15577384 SteelGiant said:
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Other tracks include:
“Double Sneak”
“Bend N Break”
“Puntn’ 40s”
“Breakin da Neck”
“Conservative Judge”


You forgot the first single:

"Pullin' Da Hammy"
Can we cut him now or what?  
adamg : 1/27/2022 10:08 am : link
Total bust. Only busts are into music! Same with Dame Lillard. Dude is a cancer on his team. Get rid of him POR!
RE: the funny part is  
adamg : 1/27/2022 10:10 am : link
In comment 15577523 UConn4523 said:
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a round of golf can be what, 5/6 hours? That's the better part of a full work day. Recording music can have any length of time attached to it - 30 minutes, 3 hours, an entire day, etc. It can also be done at....night, when people usually wind down and watch TV or a movie or play video games.

We all know the real reason why people have a problem with this. I wish you guys would just say it and stop pretending its just him not studying the playbook that's making you annoyed. Don't be a coward!


The only thing worse than being a racist, is being called a racist, UConn. How dare you!
RE: RE: RE: the funny part is  
chick310 : 1/27/2022 10:11 am : link
In comment 15577713 Mike in Long Beach said:
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a round of golf can be what, 5/6 hours? That's the better part of a full work day. Recording music can have any length of time attached to it - 30 minutes, 3 hours, an entire day, etc. It can also be done at....night, when people usually wind down and watch TV or a movie or play video games.

We all know the real reason why people have a problem with this. I wish you guys would just say it and stop pretending its just him not studying the playbook that's making you annoyed. Don't be a coward!



I honestly don't know. What's the real reason people have a problem with this?




lol, take a guess.


IDK. Because it validates the bust talk?
So let me get this straight  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 10:15 am : link
He spent his personal time doing something productive that doesn’t hurt anyone, And y’all are mad about it?


Better than robbing a poker game  
eli4life : 1/27/2022 10:19 am : link
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RE: RE: the issue I would have  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 10:19 am : link
In comment 15577545 Jesse B said:
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is the timing of the recording and amount of time he spent on it during the season.

While you can't expect a player to think of nothing but football during the season, any decent album should require a fair amount of preparation. Side hobby during the season, ok. putting in major effort on a side project during season, not ok. Recording during season, definitely not ok.

off season, no big deal. But, any decent album isn't getting done starting from scratch in the scant weeks since the season ended.

Maybe he spent little time on it, and just pumped something out. That would raise red flags regarding the effort he puts into his crafts.





This is silly. Even if he spent 4 hours on it a night. It's not like he couldn't still work 10 hours a day on his job. Even the best players in the world do things with their free time (ranging from being dad to their kids, to playing video games, to going out partying all night). They are 20 something year old kids.


Their energy is boundless. If the only two things he cares about are music and football there is plenty of time for both.


When I was 22 years old I was working 10 hour days, going to school at night to finish my degree, and still help raising a baby (whoops).

This is the thing, if you think you're recording an album for four hours a night strictly in your free time, and don't have your phone blowing up throughout the day during the producing/mixing/editing phase, and/or don't have much longer hours than that along the way, I think you're being naive.

The timing of this album's drop suggests to me that he was obviously working on this throughout the season. He was also injured with various bumps and bruises throughout the season. He also contracted Covid - TWICE. Was one of those due to time in the studio?

If KT was healthy and kicking ass on the field and also made this work as a side project, I think most would admire it. The fact that he has been somewhat unreliable as a player does make the timing of this album's release at least a little bit curious.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this sort of thing should be an offseason project for KT in general, but especially during his rookie year when one might hope that he's trying to absorb as much football expertise as possible to be a great player.
RE: RE: RE: the issue I would have  
adamg : 1/27/2022 10:28 am : link
In comment 15577757 Gatorade Dunk said:
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is the timing of the recording and amount of time he spent on it during the season.

While you can't expect a player to think of nothing but football during the season, any decent album should require a fair amount of preparation. Side hobby during the season, ok. putting in major effort on a side project during season, not ok. Recording during season, definitely not ok.

off season, no big deal. But, any decent album isn't getting done starting from scratch in the scant weeks since the season ended.

Maybe he spent little time on it, and just pumped something out. That would raise red flags regarding the effort he puts into his crafts.





This is silly. Even if he spent 4 hours on it a night. It's not like he couldn't still work 10 hours a day on his job. Even the best players in the world do things with their free time (ranging from being dad to their kids, to playing video games, to going out partying all night). They are 20 something year old kids.


Their energy is boundless. If the only two things he cares about are music and football there is plenty of time for both.


When I was 22 years old I was working 10 hour days, going to school at night to finish my degree, and still help raising a baby (whoops).


This is the thing, if you think you're recording an album for four hours a night strictly in your free time, and don't have your phone blowing up throughout the day during the producing/mixing/editing phase, and/or don't have much longer hours than that along the way, I think you're being naive.

The timing of this album's drop suggests to me that he was obviously working on this throughout the season. He was also injured with various bumps and bruises throughout the season. He also contracted Covid - TWICE. Was one of those due to time in the studio?

If KT was healthy and kicking ass on the field and also made this work as a side project, I think most would admire it. The fact that he has been somewhat unreliable as a player does make the timing of this album's release at least a little bit curious.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this sort of thing should be an offseason project for KT in general, but especially during his rookie year when one might hope that he's trying to absorb as much football expertise as possible to be a great player.


Having hobbies is good for your mental health. He needs an outlet outside of football. This one seems a lot better than partying on boats in Miami...
Its  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 10:35 am : link
It’s actual evidence he spent his free time being productive and not being a shithead.

We should be happy about this album.
Isn’t his down time in season better  
ajr2456 : 1/27/2022 10:36 am : link
For him to work on it anyway? In the offseason he should be working on staying healthy and his craft.
I ain't no Joka  
ghost718 : 1/27/2022 10:38 am : link
I don't want to be a slowpoka
But my cleats fall off and they sure are broke
Did people think he was going to spend the offseason  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:52 am : link
reading his playbook? Especially since it is not the one they will use next year?

I don't care what he does off the field if he can get healthy and contribute. If he can't do that he will need something to fall back on.
RE: Did people think he was going to spend the offseason  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15577836 Mike from Ohio said:
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reading his playbook? Especially since it is not the one they will use next year?

I don't care what he does off the field if he can get healthy and contribute. If he can't do that he will need something to fall back on.

The issue is, this wasn't done in the offseason.

Albums take more than two weeks to record.
RE: RE: RE: RE: the issue I would have  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15577782 adamg said:
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is the timing of the recording and amount of time he spent on it during the season.

While you can't expect a player to think of nothing but football during the season, any decent album should require a fair amount of preparation. Side hobby during the season, ok. putting in major effort on a side project during season, not ok. Recording during season, definitely not ok.

off season, no big deal. But, any decent album isn't getting done starting from scratch in the scant weeks since the season ended.

Maybe he spent little time on it, and just pumped something out. That would raise red flags regarding the effort he puts into his crafts.





This is silly. Even if he spent 4 hours on it a night. It's not like he couldn't still work 10 hours a day on his job. Even the best players in the world do things with their free time (ranging from being dad to their kids, to playing video games, to going out partying all night). They are 20 something year old kids.


Their energy is boundless. If the only two things he cares about are music and football there is plenty of time for both.


When I was 22 years old I was working 10 hour days, going to school at night to finish my degree, and still help raising a baby (whoops).


This is the thing, if you think you're recording an album for four hours a night strictly in your free time, and don't have your phone blowing up throughout the day during the producing/mixing/editing phase, and/or don't have much longer hours than that along the way, I think you're being naive.

The timing of this album's drop suggests to me that he was obviously working on this throughout the season. He was also injured with various bumps and bruises throughout the season. He also contracted Covid - TWICE. Was one of those due to time in the studio?

If KT was healthy and kicking ass on the field and also made this work as a side project, I think most would admire it. The fact that he has been somewhat unreliable as a player does make the timing of this album's release at least a little bit curious.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this sort of thing should be an offseason project for KT in general, but especially during his rookie year when one might hope that he's trying to absorb as much football expertise as possible to be a great player.



Having hobbies is good for your mental health. He needs an outlet outside of football. This one seems a lot better than partying on boats in Miami...

This isn't hobby, though. It's a second full-time job. And he just started his first full-time job. It's a lot for a young kid to balance.
At least his year  
Bill in UT : 1/27/2022 11:22 am : link
wasn't a total washout
Let’s hope  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 11:23 am : link
Next season he just sticks to drinking and drugs and dwi’s and shit.
RE: Let’s hope  
Gmen703 : 1/27/2022 11:29 am : link
In comment 15577961 RicFlair said:
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Next season he just sticks to drinking and drugs and dwi’s and shit.


Amen!
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adamg : 1/27/2022 11:30 am : link
In comment 15577923 Gatorade Dunk said:
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This isn't hobby, though. It's a second full-time job. And he just started his first full-time job. It's a lot for a young kid to balance.


Bullshit. People play video games for hours a day. This guy goes into a studio for fun. It's not about making a living at all. He's in a high pressure job. Focusing solely on football can lead to burnout and poor mental health and ultimately disinterest in the game. You need outlets when you're in a high pressure environment like that. Why do you these guys go out drinking and driving? They're under tremendous stress. Writing lyrics and poetry and making music is a fantastic way of battling through that pressure. It is by no means a second job.
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Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:39 am : link
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This isn't hobby, though. It's a second full-time job. And he just started his first full-time job. It's a lot for a young kid to balance.



Bullshit. People play video games for hours a day. This guy goes into a studio for fun. It's not about making a living at all. He's in a high pressure job. Focusing solely on football can lead to burnout and poor mental health and ultimately disinterest in the game. You need outlets when you're in a high pressure environment like that. Why do you these guys go out drinking and driving? They're under tremendous stress. Writing lyrics and poetry and making music is a fantastic way of battling through that pressure. It is by no means a second job.

This is what you're missing: the other people that go into creating an album ARE doing it for a living. So he doesn't really get to to treat it like a hobby where he's playing Fortnight into the wee hours on his day off.

The other people who work on an album are reliant on him, just like his teammates are. It's a job, not a hobby.
.  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/27/2022 11:40 am : link
you can be sure
i miss the whole season injured
doesnt matter if its turf or grass
you can call me mr glass
The engineer and producing the album don’t care  
ajr2456 : 1/27/2022 11:41 am : link
If he’s doing it just for fun or not. They’re getting the same hourly rate anyway, and get to hang out with a rich NFL player.
 
christian : 1/27/2022 11:43 am : link
If Toney is messing around with his friends and recording songs for fun, good for him.

If he’s spending the time a serious artist takes writing, recording, producing, performing, and promoting an album — I’d prefer he spent that time getting better at WR.

If Daniel Jones was pursuing a career as a polka recording artist, or Azeez Ojulari had a tech start up I’d feel the same way.
I don't be mad.  
widmerseyebrow : 1/27/2022 11:43 am : link
Shit just be lame to me.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: the issue I would have  
adamg : 1/27/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15578032 Gatorade Dunk said:
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This isn't hobby, though. It's a second full-time job. And he just started his first full-time job. It's a lot for a young kid to balance.



Bullshit. People play video games for hours a day. This guy goes into a studio for fun. It's not about making a living at all. He's in a high pressure job. Focusing solely on football can lead to burnout and poor mental health and ultimately disinterest in the game. You need outlets when you're in a high pressure environment like that. Why do you these guys go out drinking and driving? They're under tremendous stress. Writing lyrics and poetry and making music is a fantastic way of battling through that pressure. It is by no means a second job.


This is what you're missing: the other people that go into creating an album ARE doing it for a living. So he doesn't really get to to treat it like a hobby where he's playing Fortnight into the wee hours on his day off.

The other people who work on an album are reliant on him, just like his teammates are. It's a job, not a hobby.


So when players host podcasts, does that ruin their credibility as professional athletes?

I don't see the big deal about having a second "job" particularly a creative one.
RE: So all of you complaing  
Dave : 1/27/2022 11:46 am : link
In comment 15577680 MotownGIANTS said:
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Need to stop any outside activity and focus on solely your work profession and whatever your superior tells you to do.


All you should be doing is be the best employee you can and raise your level of production/output/team spirit/etc while you make sure all your time/decisions/efforts is to drive the company forward and advance their mission statement and company culture.

Otherwise sit down with your hyprocrisy and chill out.


idk, in my profession it is not common to workout, watch film and prepare for work 24/7/365 but in professional sports it seems different, if you want to keep up with your peers and excel
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Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:46 am : link
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This isn't hobby, though. It's a second full-time job. And he just started his first full-time job. It's a lot for a young kid to balance.



Bullshit. People play video games for hours a day. This guy goes into a studio for fun. It's not about making a living at all. He's in a high pressure job. Focusing solely on football can lead to burnout and poor mental health and ultimately disinterest in the game. You need outlets when you're in a high pressure environment like that. Why do you these guys go out drinking and driving? They're under tremendous stress. Writing lyrics and poetry and making music is a fantastic way of battling through that pressure. It is by no means a second job.


This is what you're missing: the other people that go into creating an album ARE doing it for a living. So he doesn't really get to to treat it like a hobby where he's playing Fortnight into the wee hours on his day off.

The other people who work on an album are reliant on him, just like his teammates are. It's a job, not a hobby.



So when players host podcasts, does that ruin their credibility as professional athletes?

I don't see the big deal about having a second "job" particularly a creative one.

The fact that you don't see the difference between these two scenarios, as well as the comparative support staff that each requires, makes this debate useless.

You think a weekly podcast (or even a radio appearance) has the same time commitment as recording an album?
Why care?  
Thegratefulhead : 1/27/2022 11:47 am : link
He doesn't play, so, he doesn't matter.
the Q is  
Dave : 1/27/2022 11:48 am : link
is football his hobby or is music
it'll probably be more successful than his rookie season  
islander1 : 1/27/2022 11:50 am : link
which won't be saying much.
 
christian : 1/27/2022 12:00 pm : link
I think a number of people on this thread would be surprised what it takes to write, record, and produce a record.

I think that same number of people would be surprised what it takes to train, rehab, and prep to be a word class professional athlete.
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adamg : 1/27/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15578100 christian said:
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I think a number of people on this thread would be surprised what it takes to write, record, and produce a record.

I think that same number of people would be surprised what it takes to train, rehab, and prep to be a word class professional athlete.


I'm sure you're an expert on both to be able to tell why and how it's impossible to do both. Dame Lillard must be the fucking messiah.
Shaq recorded like 5 albums while he played  
AcesUp : 1/27/2022 12:06 pm : link
And appeared in movies and was involved in Video Games. Over a much longer season.

I admittedly don't know anything about recording music but can't some of the man hours involved in recording an album be outsourced by a young guy with a lot of disposable income?
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christian : 1/27/2022 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15578113 adamg said:
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I think a number of people on this thread would be surprised what it takes to write, record, and produce a record.

I think that same number of people would be surprised what it takes to train, rehab, and prep to be a word class professional athlete.



I'm sure you're an expert on both to be able to tell why and how it's impossible to do both. Dame Lillard must be the fucking messiah.


Damian Lillard has proven he’s good at basketball. He seems like an ultra-focused high performing guy who’s made of different stuff than most people. Owning a record company, recording music, and being a really good basketball player is a hell of an achievement.

Kadarius Toney can’t tie his own shoes and once thought it was a good idea to bring an air rifle to a gunfight.

Toney’s got a lot to prove before he’s in the same universe as Lillard. Lillard produces the goods on the court and the mic. Toney, ehh.
RE: Shaq recorded like 5 albums while he played  
adamg : 1/27/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15578122 AcesUp said:
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And appeared in movies and was involved in Video Games. Over a much longer season.

I admittedly don't know anything about recording music but can't some of the man hours involved in recording an album be outsourced by a young guy with a lot of disposable income?


Obviously Shaq would have been better served to shut up and dribble.
Did he get injured  
montanagiant : 1/27/2022 12:23 pm : link
Making it?
 
christian : 1/27/2022 12:30 pm : link
Listening to his tracks it sounds like a middle schooler wrote and produced them, so my guess is this fits into the messing around with his friends category I posted above. And definitely not in the serious artist writing, recording, producing and promoting column.

GarageBand away little jokka.

Hopefully he spends more time honing his receiving skills than the 20 hours someone put into those cuts.
It’s not like this is a major label release  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 12:34 pm : link
And I doubt he was present for whatever mixing had to take place. It’s essentially mixtape. Probably took like a week to record.

If you’re ignorant to the hip hop world you may not realize that.
 
christian : 1/27/2022 12:40 pm : link
^ definitely. It’s a 17 min mix tape.
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RicFlair : 1/27/2022 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15578241 christian said:
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^ definitely. It’s a 17 min mix tape.




lol. This place is melting down over a 17 minute mixtape.
Based on that, I rescind my concerns about his in-season distractions  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 12:52 pm : link
But I guess we can question whether he just half-asses everything he does.
RE: It’s not like this is a major label release  
bLiTz 2k : 1/27/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15578224 RicFlair said:
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And I doubt he was present for whatever mixing had to take place. It’s essentially mixtape. Probably took like a week to record.

If you’re ignorant to the hip hop world you may not realize that.


Or ignorant to music in general. My old band recorded a 16 track album a few years back, and the singer was there for like 2 days.
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christian : 1/27/2022 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15578273 RicFlair said:
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lol. This place is melting down over a 17 minute mixtape.


My FOL is a record producer and former A&R exec at a major label. I’ve also seen firsthand what it takes many of times. Recording a real album is a bear. Recording a real album DIY is even worse.

Laying down 17 mins on GarageBand with iPad beats isn’t an album, that’s what it sounds like Toney has here. Good, fun times.
RE: RE: Did people think he was going to spend the offseason  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15577919 Gatorade Dunk said:
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reading his playbook? Especially since it is not the one they will use next year?

I don't care what he does off the field if he can get healthy and contribute. If he can't do that he will need something to fall back on.


The issue is, this wasn't done in the offseason.

Albums take more than two weeks to record.


You may not have listened to any of his stuff on Spotify. It would be disappointing to think any of those songs were more than a 10-15 minute investment of time.
My age is showing  
fkap : 1/27/2022 1:16 pm : link
back in the day, we had to walk to and from, uphill both ways, to a recording studio, putting real resources, and thus real effort, into making an album.

I forgot that nowadays, you can fart into a microphone, and put it out into the world without ever leaving your living room. Also forgot that due to that ease, every time someone has a thought, it can be cast out there, whether anyone wants it or not.

Two songs on there  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 1:16 pm : link
"Backup" and "King of Da Slums'" may be two possible outcomes of his Giants career.
RE: My age is showing  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 1:18 pm : link
In comment 15578363 fkap said:
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back in the day, we had to walk to and from, uphill both ways, to a recording studio, putting real resources, and thus real effort, into making an album.

I forgot that nowadays, you can fart into a microphone, and put it out into the world without ever leaving your living room. Also forgot that due to that ease, every time someone has a thought, it can be cast out there, whether anyone wants it or not.


Kinda like posts on BBI.
I find it disturbing  
GNewGiants : 1/27/2022 1:20 pm : link
He has more albums than TDS.
RE: I find it disturbing  
RicFlair : 1/27/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15578379 GNewGiants said:
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He has more albums than TDS.


Even Golladay has the same amount of albums as he does td’s this year.
Toney is nothing  
Thegratefulhead : 1/27/2022 1:49 pm : link
As of today he is wasted pick. Do something and I will care.
RE: Shaq recorded like 5 albums while he played  
Dave : 1/27/2022 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15578122 AcesUp said:
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And appeared in movies and was involved in Video Games. Over a much longer season.

I admittedly don't know anything about recording music but can't some of the man hours involved in recording an album be outsourced by a young guy with a lot of disposable income?


Q- did he do that after a very disappointing rookie year?
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