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Mara forcing another coach

EliisGod77 : 1/27/2022 7:53 am
Having read all the latest articles and watching the presser for Schoen it becomes very clear that despite all the negative press and failure he’s had John Mara continues to meddle in this process along with his idiot brother. How do you say one minute it’s the GMs call on coaches and then the first thing we hear yesterday from schoen is “collaborative” when it comes to the head coaching job? Mara running out to call Brian Flores, when we didn’t even have a GM and now there are reports Daboll is going to Miami and that Flores is imminent. Flores is a horrible choice, and sounds exactly like a Mara hire. His offenses were pedestrian, teams ok and he’s a monster to deal with. On top of that our offensive is a shit show and hiring this guy is not going to fix Daniel Jones or make us a better team. He’s just a carbon copy of Judge, ultra conservative, with no imagination or idea how to put a staff together. I’m amazed at the love affair for this guy. Simply amazed.
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Shoen also  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 9:43 am : link
had a response to the currently constructed in-house team during his press-conference. I don't have time to go back and copy and paste...but it didn't sound like he was going to make wholesale changes to anything.
No issues with this  
Sean : 1/27/2022 9:44 am : link
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Art Stapleton
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Of course ownership is going to have a say. It's a collaboration.
But Schoen is leading search. Mara and Tisch give their opinions, ask their questions.

Schoen makes his pick. Then ownership either approves, or they keep digging.

That's the process. Mara hasn't lied about it
UConn4523  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 9:44 am : link
This was the quote I was looking for:

Q: This might be splitting hairs a little, but you said the GM would hire the coach. Joe said it would be collaborative, so who really has the final say?

A: It’s a collaboration. Listen, he’s not going to hire anybody that we don’t want and we’re certainly not going to hire anybody that he doesn’t want. But ownership always has the final approval over any decision like that. That’s just not going to change.

Q: Is it fair to say though that he has more say than the previous general managers in that regard?

A: No, I don’t think so. Our system has always been the same. We rely on the general manager. We rely on his advice, but at the end of the day, ownership has to approve it.
RE: UConn4523  
UConn4523 : 1/27/2022 9:47 am : link
In comment 15577633 Eric from BBI said:
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Mara is terrible at picking HC's.

I don't care what other owners do.

I keep making this analogy and still will. If you try to plumb your own house and the end result is the basement is flooded. Hire a pro and get out of the way.

Does he trust Schoen? If so, let him hire the coach.


Sounds to me like he is. He said he we aren't hiring anyone Joe doesn't want (and vice versa). To me this sounds more like a checkered past situation than football ability being a deal breaker for Mara - see Bienemy, or even a Payton if he was available. And I get that, if he doesn't want to employ someone for ethical reasons, I 100% support that even if it has the chance of effecting wins and losses. Its still a business.
Let's see how it plays out.  
Section331 : 1/27/2022 9:49 am : link
As other posters have noted, there is nothing wrong or odd about ownership having a say in the HC decision. The concern would be if they are dictating a HC to a new GM, but we have little evidence of that.

Yes, Mara has been interviewing HC's, but he didn't have a GM in place, and interviewing someone tells them of your interest. It can simply be a placeholder until the GM is in house. I also have to assume that ownership talked about potential HC's with the GM candidates, so it is very possible that Mara is going off of that list.
I Don't Know How Much Mara is Driving this  
Lambuth_Special : 1/27/2022 9:53 am : link
But I hope people understand that the job of a head coach and GM is to build a winning football team, not fix Daniel Jones.

The Giants really have to stop operating as a reputation management firm for their QBs. it's been a problem since 2017.
and don't get me wrong here...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 9:55 am : link
as I posted above, Quinn and Flores are probably the "safer" choices. They may be the better choices.

So if Mara was to overrule Schoen here, it might not be a bad thing.

BUT... it would also tell us that Schoen's influence isn't what was originally advertised.
RE: and don't get me wrong here...  
Section331 : 1/27/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15577675 Eric from BBI said:
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as I posted above, Quinn and Flores are probably the "safer" choices. They may be the better choices.

So if Mara was to overrule Schoen here, it might not be a bad thing.

BUT... it would also tell us that Schoen's influence isn't what was originally advertised.


Or that maybe Schoen wasn't as high on Daboll as many suspected? I think we all fall into that narrative of if GM X worked with OC Y, they must want to work together again. That isn't always true.
RE: RE: and don't get me wrong here...  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 10:02 am : link
In comment 15577687 Section331 said:
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In comment 15577675 Eric from BBI said:


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as I posted above, Quinn and Flores are probably the "safer" choices. They may be the better choices.

So if Mara was to overrule Schoen here, it might not be a bad thing.

BUT... it would also tell us that Schoen's influence isn't what was originally advertised.



Or that maybe Schoen wasn't as high on Daboll as many suspected? I think we all fall into that narrative of if GM X worked with OC Y, they must want to work together again. That isn't always true.


That is a very possible scenario. Maybe Schoen knows that Dorsey is really the magic behind Allen and the offense - totally possible.



I don't think anyone expects the owners  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:03 am : link
to have no involvement in the selection of a head coach. No team operates that way. What many posters were hoping for with the 'carte blanche' was that the GM would pick the list of people to interview, and ultimately express his preference when the process was over. At that point, clearly Mara and Tisch could express their thoughts, but ultimately allow the GM the latitude to hire his guy unless there was something concerning about a candidate at which point they could veto the selection and move on to a second option.

Given the past several hires it is not unreasonable to want Mara especially to take a back seat. He admitted himself he has lost the trust of the fans. When comments come out that he possibly has a different favorite candidate than Schoen, it is cause for concern.

How that all became people being miserable shut-ins who hate the team or wild conspiracy theories is a bit shocking to me. Some skepticism of the process is certainly not unreasonable.

What I truly find surprising is the number of posters in the "Mara is picking the coach" camp, and the equally boisterous "You can only believe what you are told" camp.
Where is the line between  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 10:08 am : link
"wild conspiracy theory" and "reasonable skepticism"?
Mike  
JonC : 1/27/2022 10:09 am : link
It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.
RE: Where is the line between  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:12 am : link
In comment 15577715 Dnew15 said:
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"wild conspiracy theory" and "reasonable skepticism"?


My point exactly. While a few posts are over the top, the majority of posts seem to express concern about warning signs, not about massive conspiracies, but that word is being thrown around a lot by people who clearly don't know what it means.
RE: Mike  
Sean : 1/27/2022 10:13 am : link
In comment 15577723 JonC said:
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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.

Let’s see what happens under Schoen within the front office the next few months. That will determine things greatly.
RE: Mike  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 10:13 am : link
In comment 15577723 JonC said:
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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.


I'm not sure how anyone can come away from yesterday's interviews and not retain the impression that it is pretty much same power structure.

The only difference is Schoen has replaced Gettleman, and eventually Schoen's influence will hopefully extend to other elements of the operation (i.e., scouting staff changes).
RE: Where is the line between  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 10:13 am : link
In comment 15577715 Dnew15 said:
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"wild conspiracy theory" and "reasonable skepticism"?


Bingo.
RE: Mike  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:14 am : link
In comment 15577723 JonC said:
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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.


I think that is absolutely right. I think there are people who want to believe the problems were wiped away that easy and can't stand to hear anything that challenges that notion.
....  
ryanmkeane : 1/27/2022 10:14 am : link
anyone who owns a football team is going to have input over the head coach and will have to sign off.

Posters that think Schoen can just pick the guy and say "Hey John, we are hiring Brian Flores, contract should be done shortly" isn't thinking clearly.

The difference now is that Schoen clearly wants a HC that will be aligned with him in every step. If that happens, and Mara has no real issues with the coach, then Schoen will get his guy.
RE: RE: Mike  
JonC : 1/27/2022 10:15 am : link
In comment 15577736 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15577723 JonC said:


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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.



I'm not sure how anyone can come away from yesterday's interviews and not retain the impression that it is pretty much same power structure.

The only difference is Schoen has replaced Gettleman, and eventually Schoen's influence will hopefully extend to other elements of the operation (i.e., scouting staff changes).


Me either, it was damned disappointing even tho part of me heard exactly what I expected to hear, especially from Mara.
I don't think it's a wild conspiracy  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 10:17 am : link
to believe after yesterday's pressings that the decision making processes that lead the Giants down a path to a decade of losing are really changing all that much.

And think it's reasonably skeptical to believe that the Mara inner circle simply replaced a yes-man GM with another one.

Time will tell.
RE: ....  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:20 am : link
In comment 15577743 ryanmkeane said:
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anyone who owns a football team is going to have input over the head coach and will have to sign off.

Posters that think Schoen can just pick the guy and say "Hey John, we are hiring Brian Flores, contract should be done shortly" isn't thinking clearly.

The difference now is that Schoen clearly wants a HC that will be aligned with him in every step. If that happens, and Mara has no real issues with the coach, then Schoen will get his guy.


I don't think there is literally anyone on this board who believed Mara would have no input. Why would he sit in the interviews if he had no input. That's a silly strawman argument.

People are reacting to reports that Mara was both reaching out to HC candidates before a GM was in place, and at least one beat writer reported that Mara may prefer a different candidate than Schoen.

Skepticism...not stupidity.
RE: ....  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 10:21 am : link
In comment 15577743 ryanmkeane said:
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anyone who owns a football team is going to have input over the head coach and will have to sign off.

Posters that think Schoen can just pick the guy and say "Hey John, we are hiring Brian Flores, contract should be done shortly" isn't thinking clearly.

The difference now is that Schoen clearly wants a HC that will be aligned with him in every step. If that happens, and Mara has no real issues with the coach, then Schoen will get his guy.


I also don't think it's crazy to think that in the interview Schoen mentioned that he would like to bring Daboll in and give him a good shot at being the new HC and the "inner circle" responding with "Yeah - sure he would be a great candidate, but we here in NY have been kind of burned by the the new HC thing a couple times in the recent past, what do you think about some other guys like FLores and QUinn that have been there before."

If you were Schoen and you want the job - which of course he did - what do you think his response would be????

Is he calling the shots in that scenario???
RE: Mike  
UConn4523 : 1/27/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15577723 JonC said:
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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.


Skepticism is warranted. Definitive stamps on what's happening isn't.
RE: RE: Mike  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15577774 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15577723 JonC said:


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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.



Skepticism is warranted. Definitive stamps on what's happening isn't.


People who are posting things like "this is a troubling sign" are being called conspiracy theorists by a significant number of posters - and not the ones that are typically on the fringe.

It has been an extreme overreaction.
RE: I don't think it's a wild conspiracy  
ron mexico : 1/27/2022 10:32 am : link
In comment 15577753 Dnew15 said:
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to believe after yesterday's pressings that the decision making processes that lead the Giants down a path to a decade of losing are really changing all that much.

And think it's reasonably skeptical to believe that the Mara inner circle simply replaced a yes-man GM with another one.

Time will tell.


exactly

and its not just the HC

For all that he said at the season ending presser, Jones and Barkley were 100% coming back. Its not exactly a directive from ownership, but it might as well be.


Mara  
EliisGod77 : 1/27/2022 10:33 am : link
should be humble abs take a step back given his failures again and again. Outside of what George Young and Enie Accorsi left to him he’s been a shit owner who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and his brother is some genius scout. Add on top of that the PSL bull, this god awful stadium and a decade of losing he’s lucky that there is still a fan base left especially a part of it that still buys his BS. I was hopeful for change but based on everything from the presser and news sounds like same old nepotism and misguided handling of the franchise will continue. Is it any surprise we heard about “Daniel” and “collaborative” yesterday. It’s like they said hey Joel you can have the GM job but we still call the shots. This franchise is crazy, even crazier is not one reporter even questioned some of these coaching suggestions or even asked why Jim Harbaugh wasn’t approached or interviewed. Dan Quinn and Flores are better coaching prospects than harbaugh. Wow.
RE: RE: Mike  
JonC : 1/27/2022 10:34 am : link
In comment 15577774 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15577723 JonC said:


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It seems a contingent of posters are perhaps so over past failures, they're unwilling to allow the skepticism into their minds. I get it, we all want a reversal of fortunes, but my instincts are the "collaborative" effort to find the new HC is aligning more as business as usual. Mara's comments as the presser yesterday only reinforcing what I found to be informing.



Skepticism is warranted. Definitive stamps on what's happening isn't.


Mike's correct, and the closest posters I've seen go near definitive are Eric and Terps, whose collective intuition is typically excellent.
For those  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 10:35 am : link
who haven't watched it (it's on YouTube), actually watch the Tiki/Tierney interview with Schoen yesterday. It's not long. But both those guys asked excellent questions and didn't let Schoen off the hook when asking the tough questions.
RE: Mara  
blueblood : 1/27/2022 10:36 am : link
In comment 15577797 EliisGod77 said:
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should be humble abs take a step back given his failures again and again. Outside of what George Young and Enie Accorsi left to him he’s been a shit owner who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and his brother is some genius scout. Add on top of that the PSL bull, this god awful stadium and a decade of losing he’s lucky that there is still a fan base left especially a part of it that still buys his BS. I was hopeful for change but based on everything from the presser and news sounds like same old nepotism and misguided handling of the franchise will continue. Is it any surprise we heard about “Daniel” and “collaborative” yesterday. It’s like they said hey Joel you can have the GM job but we still call the shots. This franchise is crazy, even crazier is not one reporter even questioned some of these coaching suggestions or even asked why Jim Harbaugh wasn’t approached or interviewed. Dan Quinn and Flores are better coaching prospects than harbaugh. Wow.


who has Harbaugh interviewed with ?? NO ONE...

everyone sees right through Harbauagh trying to squeeze UM for more money
Its  
EliisGod77 : 1/27/2022 10:38 am : link
Pretty hard to interview when no one picks up a phone and calls lol…
RE: Mara  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:39 am : link
In comment 15577797 EliisGod77 said:
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should be humble abs take a step back given his failures again and again. Outside of what George Young and Enie Accorsi left to him he’s been a shit owner who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and his brother is some genius scout. Add on top of that the PSL bull, this god awful stadium and a decade of losing he’s lucky that there is still a fan base left especially a part of it that still buys his BS. I was hopeful for change but based on everything from the presser and news sounds like same old nepotism and misguided handling of the franchise will continue. Is it any surprise we heard about “Daniel” and “collaborative” yesterday. It’s like they said hey Joel you can have the GM job but we still call the shots. This franchise is crazy, even crazier is not one reporter even questioned some of these coaching suggestions or even asked why Jim Harbaugh wasn’t approached or interviewed. Dan Quinn and Flores are better coaching prospects than harbaugh. Wow.


And this is why we get the overreactions. This is borderline hysterical.

The reporters didn't ask about Harbaugh because few believe he is really leaving Michigan. And some of what you hear in a press conference has to be taken with a grain of salt. Schoen isn't going to say "I will hire the coach and Jones hasn't shown shit so far in his career." If you expected to hear that you weren't thinking clearly.
RE: Good news, bad news  
Jimmy Googs : 1/27/2022 10:40 am : link
In comment 15577588 Eric from BBI said:
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Good news is that Schoen MAY be better than Gettleman (probably is) and Schoen MAY be able to convince Mara to do the right thing (debatable).

Bad news... Schoen is not running the operation. Peppers was right.


Why do insist on pushing this agenda lately. This is exactly what Mara said the GM is responsible for and is consistent with what Getts did too.

"This will be a comprehensive search for our next general manager," said Mara. "We are looking for a person who demonstrates exceptional leadership and communication abilities, somebody who will oversee all aspects of our football operations, including player personnel, college scouting and coaching."

In addition, the new GM is leading the process to get a new Head Coach hired. Yes, he needs to get his hire approved by the owners...save me the weak conjecture.

How can you possibly keep saying the GM isn't running things based on the above?

I see it differently but that's fine  
UConn4523 : 1/27/2022 10:40 am : link
just trying to get all of these possibilities organized. If Flores is hired does it mean Mara got his guy or that Schoen actually liked him the best? If its Daboll, does that mean Schoen won the power struggle? See where I'm going with this? Its quite comical, you can make up whatever angle you want.

You just said above that no one here actually thought Mara would have 0 input but I actually completely disagree, plenty post and argue like its what was promised to them.
RE: I see it differently but that's fine  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15577816 UConn4523 said:
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just trying to get all of these possibilities organized. If Flores is hired does it mean Mara got his guy or that Schoen actually liked him the best? If its Daboll, does that mean Schoen won the power struggle? See where I'm going with this? Its quite comical, you can make up whatever angle you want.

You just said above that no one here actually thought Mara would have 0 input but I actually completely disagree, plenty post and argue like its what was promised to them.


As with most things, whoever is hired will confirm for many what they already believe. Flores being hired will be proof of Mara running the team for some. Daboll being hired will be proof to some that Schoen has full autonomy and answers to nobody. People hate living with the unknown so they create a theory that makes everything understandable. It's silly not to realize people have different views and therefore different theories.

Neither one will ever be "proven" in anyway. That doesn't mean it can't be discussed.
RE: Where is the line between  
Jimmy Googs : 1/27/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15577715 Dnew15 said:
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"wild conspiracy theory" and "reasonable skepticism"?


Posters in the first group took a Drama class in high school...
Way I see it  
Go Terps : 1/27/2022 10:54 am : link
The GM the last four years was John/Chris/Gettleman. Now it's John/Chris/Schoen.

The process is flawed. It can still yield improvement and I figure it will now as the IQ just went up.

Still a flawed process, and that will probably be borne out against better processes elsewhere over a period of years.
RE: Good news, bad news  
JB_in_DC : 1/27/2022 10:56 am : link
In comment 15577588 Eric from BBI said:
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Good news is that Schoen MAY be better than Gettleman (probably is) and Schoen MAY be able to convince Mara to do the right thing (debatable).

Bad news... Schoen is not running the operation. Peppers was right.


Lmao PEPPERS WAS RIGHT. The GM has not made a single decision yet.

Do you also believe in Qanon?
RE: RE: Good news, bad news  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 11:07 am : link
In comment 15577850 JB_in_DC said:
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In comment 15577588 Eric from BBI said:


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Good news is that Schoen MAY be better than Gettleman (probably is) and Schoen MAY be able to convince Mara to do the right thing (debatable).

Bad news... Schoen is not running the operation. Peppers was right.



Lmao PEPPERS WAS RIGHT. The GM has not made a single decision yet.

Do you also believe in Qanon?


It's like EliisGod and this nub just showed up as illustrations of the fringe lunatics on this site.

Thanks to you both!
Are there people that really  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2022 11:10 am : link
think that the processes utilized for pro and college scouting prior to the Schoen hire were NOT collaborative?

RE: RE: Mike  
Andy340350 : 1/27/2022 11:16 am : link
Eric, what about this portion of Mara's quote, "we’re certainly not going to hire anybody that he doesn’t want." There is nothing inherently inconsistent about ownership having final say, and an acknowledgment they won't use that final say to force someone on the GM. Reserving the right not to rubber stamp the GM's first choice doesn't mean the GM will be saddled with someone he doesn't want. Sounds like both have veto power, which means that when they hired him they must have been satisfied that it just wouldn't come to that.

I suspect that ownership's final say is more about retaining the right not to commit to the GM's choice if he wants a 9 year $100MM contract. At the end of the day, (thanks Antrel) it's not the GM's money.
RE: Way I see it  
Sean : 1/27/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15577845 Go Terps said:
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The GM the last four years was John/Chris/Gettleman. Now it's John/Chris/Schoen.

The process is flawed. It can still yield improvement and I figure it will now as the IQ just went up.

Still a flawed process, and that will probably be borne out against better processes elsewhere over a period of years.

I’d say the Eagles are well run, and Lurie is HEAVILY involved.

Schoen said he is giving his front office a chance to see if they can buy in to his process. He will need his own outside asst GM after the draft. Need stronger people below him.
I think the concern is not simply that the owner is involved  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 11:23 am : link
Lurie is involved with the Eagles and Jones with the Cowboys, both of which have had some success with that being the case.

The counter to that is that Washington has had Snyder involved. That has worked out terribly.

I am not equating Mara with Jones/Lurie or Snyder. What I am saying is that it is Mara particularly and his poor track record that is the concern.
John Mara will always be involved.  
joe48 : 1/27/2022 11:26 am : link
Giants aren’t a conglomerate. This is the Mara’s only business. He isn’t just giving the keys to Schoen and telling him: “I’ll speak with you in September.” As other’s have said he signs the checks. Hoping he is less involved and lets the new GM do his thing.
RE: RE: Way I see it  
Go Terps : 1/27/2022 11:28 am : link
In comment 15577948 Sean said:
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In comment 15577845 Go Terps said:


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The GM the last four years was John/Chris/Gettleman. Now it's John/Chris/Schoen.

The process is flawed. It can still yield improvement and I figure it will now as the IQ just went up.

Still a flawed process, and that will probably be borne out against better processes elsewhere over a period of years.


I’d say the Eagles are well run, and Lurie is HEAVILY involved.

Schoen said he is giving his front office a chance to see if they can buy in to his process. He will need his own outside asst GM after the draft. Need stronger people below him.


It's worth remembering that if John had had his way, Chris would have been made GM when Accorsi retired. Presumably he'd keep that job until he was ready to retire - would John ever actually fire his brother? Tisch vetoed, but John essentially found a workaround.

The football side is basically being run by a homeless man's John and Robert Kennedy.

They're not good at it, so we're left hoping they luck into some good decisions. Hopefully they both retire soon and McDonnell is better than they are.
RE: RE: RE: Way I see it  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 11:30 am : link
In comment 15577977 Go Terps said:
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The football side is basically being run by a homeless man's John and Robert Kennedy.


Some will take offense at this, but that was funny!
Schoen is respected around the league  
greatgrandpa : 1/27/2022 11:43 am : link
There were other GM openings and eventually will be more with him as known quality candidate He had to know what he was getting into with clueless John whose touch turns everything to garbage . So it seems to me, as a very bright guy thinking about his future and his reputation he would have asked the single most important question during his interview ‘if I make a decision that I think is in the best interests of them team are you going to overrule me.” Anything other than a yes and a handshake and you return to Allen And Buffalo and book hotel plans for the playoffs for the next several seasons until a better GM situation comes along.

That’s what I hope he asked Mara knowing who he is. I hope he got the right answer
What Giants fans want to hear at the next Mara PC:  
ZoneXDOA : 1/27/2022 6:25 pm : link
AP: “John, what do you think makes Brian Daboll the right fit as head coach of the Giants?”

Mara: “Well you’d really have to ask Joe that question. I didn’t even know we hired Brian until about 10 minutes before I walked on. I will say, though, I’ve been disappointed in that Boba Fett show on Disney +. I mean, the best episode didn’t even have Boba in it amiright?!”

AP: “Do you see a future for the NY Giants that includes Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones?”

Mara: “No clue! With Joe I have a ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ policy and I don’t ask Joe a God damned thing! You think we’ll get to see Baby Yoda and Luke again? That could really save this otherwise mediocre series! Seems a lot easier than fixing this offense, though, amiright?! But you’ll need to check with Joe about that. Deuces✌🏻!”
Bumping this thead  
Jimmy Googs : 1/29/2022 3:43 pm : link
for a little humorous reading from just 2 days ago...
I hate conspiracy theories  
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