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Dan Quinn staying with Cowboys

BeckShepEli : 1/27/2022 10:57 am
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Very odd decision, unless  
Strahan91 : 1/27/2022 10:58 am : link
this was more about teams not having as much interested in him as previously thought
Good  
Josh in the City : 1/27/2022 10:58 am : link
that was the one big name I was nervous about. I believe his success in Atl was due to the offense's success under Shanahan.
If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2022 10:59 am : link
Good Lord.
I suppose that means Flores  
bceagle05 : 1/27/2022 10:59 am : link
unless you're buying the Frazier/Graham interest (and the Daboll/MIA smoke).
Sounds like his paycheck  
Jimmy Googs : 1/27/2022 11:00 am : link
got a nice little bump...
Dumb decision...  
Amtoft : 1/27/2022 11:01 am : link
Look at Graham... he was thought to be a future HC as soon as this year and now he isn't at all. If Cowboys have a bad year because of injuries or whatever he won't have a chance.
Says a lot about Quinn  
Rick in Dallas : 1/27/2022 11:02 am : link
Would rather be DC over HC
Don’t want someone like that as my HC
Jerry must have thrown bunch of money at Quinn
RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
Sean : 1/27/2022 11:02 am : link
In comment 15577857 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Good Lord.

Doesn’t BBI want Schoen to make the call though? Which is it?
RE: Very odd decision, unless  
Mike in NY : 1/27/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15577855 Strahan91 said:
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this was more about teams not having as much interested in him as previously thought


Dallas may have boosted his salary if he committed by a certain date and with Eberflus to Chicago and Hackett to Denver, the Giants were only remaining job he was in the running for. If he couldn’t get assurances from the Giants probably took bird in the hand.
Maybe he's confident Mccarthy is going to get himself canned in 2022  
The_Boss : 1/27/2022 11:03 am : link
And he's the logical guy to turn to in an interim basis with the expectation he'll get the team to the post-season (won't be hard in this division) giving himself a chance to be the HC in 2023.
Do we know that this is not because all of his HC options  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 11:03 am : link
dried up? Coaches are getting named now and he may have received several "Thanks, but not thanks" calls the last few days, including teams that have not announced coaches yet.
RE: Good  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/27/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15577856 Josh in the City said:
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that was the one big name I was nervous about. I believe his success in Atl was due to the offense's success under Shanahan.


Agreed. Not that he wouldn't be a good head coach, I just think he would have been the safest hire, with the lowest upside.
RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
jeff57 : 1/27/2022 11:04 am : link
In comment 15577857 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Good Lord.


Frazier wouldn't be bad choice. Not my preference, but as log they brought in good coordinators, I'd be comfortable with it.
RE: RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
Jimmy Googs : 1/27/2022 11:04 am : link
In comment 15577871 Sean said:
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In comment 15577857 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Good Lord.


Doesn’t BBI want Schoen to make the call though? Which is it?


Schoen isn't running the operations...
RE: Says a lot about Quinn  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/27/2022 11:05 am : link
In comment 15577868 Rick in Dallas said:
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Would rather be DC over HC
Don’t want someone like that as my HC
Jerry must have thrown bunch of money at Quinn


Or maybe he saw the writing on the wall and declared his return to Dallas to save face. He was passed over for a lot of jobs, including this one, or so it seems.
Probably  
ajr2456 : 1/27/2022 11:05 am : link
Banking on McCarthy getting fired.
Sean.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2022 11:06 am : link
Yes. But Frazier is the most meh hire of all the candidates.
RE: RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
PatersonPlank : 1/27/2022 11:07 am : link
In comment 15577871 Sean said:
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In comment 15577857 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Good Lord.


Doesn’t BBI want Schoen to make the call though? Which is it?


Schoen can make the call as long as the BBI-GM's agree with it. Otherwise they will start calling for his removal in March
Looks like we're at where we've always been in this search  
Chris684 : 1/27/2022 11:07 am : link
Daboll or Flores.

I don't think the 42 year old Schoen is going to recommend the 62 year old Frazier as he's trying to get a guy he's in "lockstep" with.



I think Giants are moving to slow  
kelly : 1/27/2022 11:08 am : link
Losing candidates.

we may need to reopen the search. What if Daboll goes to Miami and Flores is passed on because of his work relationship issues.

Not much left, Frazier no, Graham no

anyone else feel what is left in the candidate pool is uninspiring? Can we still bring back Judge?

RE: Looks like we're at where we've always been in this search  
jeff57 : 1/27/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15577905 Chris684 said:
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Daboll or Flores.

I don't think the 42 year old Schoen is going to recommend the 62 year old Frazier as he's trying to get a guy he's in "lockstep" with.




He may have a good relationship with him, and I've read that he thinks very highly of him.
Frazier  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2022 11:17 am : link
would make me extremely displeased
Timing indicates  
AcesUp : 1/27/2022 11:18 am : link
He wanted the Bears job. Took JJ's pay bump when that was off the table.
Was Dan Quinn passed over?  
GiantGrit : 1/27/2022 11:18 am : link
Or did the coaching hires take off after he pulled his name from consideration.

Lots of unknowns.
RE: Very odd decision, unless  
Maryland Blows : 1/27/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15577855 Strahan91 said:
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this was more about teams not having as much interested in him as previously thought


McCarthy is there, I guess he figures there will be a HC vacancy in Dallas next year. Someone may want to remind him that Sean Payton is available too.
RE: Maybe he's confident Mccarthy is going to get himself canned in 2022  
TheBlueprintNC : 1/27/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15577874 The_Boss said:
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And he's the logical guy to turn to in an interim basis with the expectation he'll get the team to the post-season (won't be hard in this division) giving himself a chance to be the HC in 2023.


He knows Mike has a short leash..
Looks...  
bw in dc : 1/27/2022 11:21 am : link
like Quinn is also a recipient, along with Will McClay, of the Jerry Jones Compensation Club for Special People Fund.
RE: Do we know that this is not because all of his HC options  
bluepepper : 1/27/2022 11:25 am : link
In comment 15577876 Mike from Ohio said:
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dried up? Coaches are getting named now and he may have received several "Thanks, but not thanks" calls the last few days, including teams that have not announced coaches yet.

Yes, this is the right answer. He was passed over by Denver and Chicago. Probably got wind that he was behind Daboll and Flores here so withdrew. Not good look for a candidate to be rejected by too many teams. Hurts down the road. Shouldn't IMO but that's the way it works.
RE: Maybe he's confident Mccarthy is going to get himself canned in 2022  
Rory : 1/27/2022 11:26 am : link
In comment 15577874 The_Boss said:
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And he's the logical guy to turn to in an interim basis with the expectation he'll get the team to the post-season (won't be hard in this division) giving himself a chance to be the HC in 2023.


I think that is exactly it, along with a pay raise. Also Quinn has Diggs and Parsons to build his defense around.
The older I get, the more I think  
bradshaw44 : 1/27/2022 11:31 am : link
The coordinators are as or more important than HC. IF the coordinators call the plays. If the HC is calling plays then he is more important.

The HC is more of the CEO, he keeps everyone organized and delegates as needed. If he has good coordinators it shouldn't be a problem as long as he runs a good organization and doesn't constantly overrule his coordinators with bad results.
RE: Good  
Johnny5 : 1/27/2022 11:34 am : link
In comment 15577856 Josh in the City said:
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that was the one big name I was nervous about. I believe his success in Atl was due to the offense's success under Shanahan.

Yeah but he did have good success as a coordinator with Seattle... and getting to a Super Bowl is no joke. It's really the SB meltdown that makes me wonder obviously, but honestly I put that as much on Matt Ryan as I do that coaching staff. The Patriots got into his head and he could do nothing after the 3rd quarter. Atlanta had a good year the year the Eagles won the SB, and they only lost to Philly like 15-10 in the playoffs that year. Apparently they had some bad injuries going on the year after that.

Not sure. Everyone has warts but I wouldn't hate a Quinn hire. I wouldn't hate a Pederson hire either. At this point I am guessing it's Daboll or Flores, and I'm OK with that too.
RE: RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:35 am : link
In comment 15577881 jeff57 said:
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Good Lord.



Frazier wouldn't be bad choice. Not my preference, but as log they brought in good coordinators, I'd be comfortable with it.

Frazier is the defensive version of Shurmur, IMO.
RE: RE: RE: If we end up with Leslie Frazier as our HC...  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/27/2022 11:36 am : link
In comment 15577897 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 15577871 Sean said:


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In comment 15577857 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Good Lord.


Doesn’t BBI want Schoen to make the call though? Which is it?



Schoen can make the call as long as the BBI-GM's agree with it. Otherwise they will start calling for his removal in March

Let's hear your opinions instead of your opinions about other people's opinions.
Good  
Snablats : 1/27/2022 11:38 am : link
Didnt want him anyway
RE: Was Dan Quinn passed over?  
bw in dc : 1/27/2022 11:39 am : link
In comment 15577943 GiantGrit said:
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Or did the coaching hires take off after he pulled his name from consideration.

Lots of unknowns.


I think it's as simple as Jones playing Vito Corleone and giving Quinn an offer he couldn't refuse.
How much  
ajr2456 : 1/27/2022 11:39 am : link
Was Quinn really responsible for the Super Bowl meltdown? If anything it was more on Shanahan not running the ball, and he’s recovered.
Seems like Quinn is passing on us  
widmerseyebrow : 1/27/2022 11:41 am : link
It might be true the other teams passed on him, but not the Giants. Why? We're still interviewing candidates. It's unlikely we told a guy "you're out" when we haven't made a decision yet. I think Quinn went through the more substantive interview and being Dallas' defensive coordinator was a better option to him.
bluepepper  
JonC : 1/27/2022 11:43 am : link
is probably on the right track, you need to look at it from DQ's view.
RE: bluepepper  
Johnny5 : 1/27/2022 11:46 am : link
In comment 15578046 JonC said:
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is probably on the right track, you need to look at it from DQ's view.

Seems logical. Honestly I am shocked he hasn't gotten another shot. Seems like a good coach deserving of another shot.
Maybe one look at the weather up here this weekend  
NoPeanutz : 1/27/2022 11:48 am : link
and DAL doesn't seem like such a bad place to put down stakes.
Guess it was Broncos or bust  
Breeze_94 : 1/27/2022 11:50 am : link
For him
RE: Maybe one look at the weather up here this weekend  
jeff57 : 1/27/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15578066 NoPeanutz said:
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and DAL doesn't seem like such a bad place to put down stakes.


Quinn was raised in Morristown.
I think Jerry threw him a literal pile of money.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/27/2022 11:51 am : link
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t just fire McCarthy though.
McCarthy get a pass for one more year then Payton becomes HC in 2023  
Rick in Dallas : 1/27/2022 12:02 pm : link
For Jerry’s Cowboys. It’s well known that Payton has been his dream HC
Too bad,  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/27/2022 12:07 pm : link
I liked Quinn for the Giants. On to the next!
RE: McCarthy get a pass for one more year then Payton becomes HC in 2023  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/27/2022 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15578108 Rick in Dallas said:
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For Jerry’s Cowboys. It’s well known that Payton has been his dream HC


I thought I read somewhere that Payton still had 3 years left on his contract with the Saints. That would mean that the cowturds would still have to negotiate some sort of compensation with the saints to make that happen.
RE: Probably  
CV36 : 1/27/2022 1:31 pm : link
In comment 15577889 ajr2456 said:
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Banking on McCarthy getting fired.


My thoughts exactly.
I really don't get the Frazier diskike.  
Festina Lente : 1/27/2022 5:22 pm : link
I'm not suggesting i want him but people are making it out that he is a bad candidate. I don't see why
RE: McCarthy get a pass for one more year then Payton becomes HC in 2023  
Festina Lente : 1/27/2022 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15578108 Rick in Dallas said:
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For Jerry’s Cowboys. It’s well known that Payton has been his dream HC


I am Very worried about this
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