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Should fans care about GM/HC relationship?

shadow_spinner0 : 1/27/2022 2:51 pm
From Ian O'Connor
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Why should any Giants fan care if Joe Schoen gets along with his head coach? George Young and Bill Parcells really didn't like each other, and Young hated Bill Belichick, and together they won 2 Super Bowls. Do all the in-fighting you want. Just freakin' win on Sunday.

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Jerry Krause and Phil Jackson absolutely hated each other and still managed to win six titles together.

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I care if they can work together  
Mike from Ohio : 1/27/2022 2:53 pm : link
not if they like each other. Huge difference.
For  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/27/2022 2:53 pm : link
every "successful" example like that, you can find 10 that failed miserably.

If your GM and HC aren't on the same page, it's going to cause a problem.
I'd settle for a Reese/Coughlin type relationship  
Giantology : 1/27/2022 2:55 pm : link
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Parcells and Young may have disliked each other  
Greg from LI : 1/27/2022 2:57 pm : link
But their football philosophies aligned.
Yes, the Giants have been a dysfunctional organization long enough  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 2:58 pm : link
With the owners involvement, last thing we need is a HC/GM battle.
It's like any organization,  
Racer : 1/27/2022 2:58 pm : link
..conflict wastes time, establishes battle lines and decisions have a layer of additional bias to work through.
Again, can we fucking wait until we  
jvm52106 : 1/27/2022 3:00 pm : link
have a coach hired and see how they work together? So many of you just assume if it is Flores he was forced on Schoen- which I DO NOT BELIEVE and if DaBoll is hired Schoen only looked at his friends.

Stop the gloom and doom and let's see how the coach is, what changes they make etc.
We already have dysfunctional owners  
kelly : 1/27/2022 3:01 pm : link
And personnel department

Do we really want to add to that dysfunction by hiring a HC and GM that don't get along ?

I don't.
"Hey kid..."  
FranknWeezer : 1/27/2022 3:03 pm : link
"You and me gonna be fast friends. Hear?"

Yes  
chitt17 : 1/27/2022 3:04 pm : link
.
We should have known  
George from PA : 1/27/2022 3:04 pm : link
Philly and Boston kids never get along
no we should care that the HC is successful and the GM knows his role  
Eric on Li : 1/27/2022 3:07 pm : link
is to support the head coach.

Avg. gm salary = $2.5m
Avg. coach salary = $6.7m

there of course needs to be professionalism but in the NFL the GM has to support the coaches vision, not the other way around.
I have no issue with some head butting  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/27/2022 3:09 pm : link
I think it can cause issues if it filters down to the team. Lock the doors, argue it out, find a compromise and both agree its over till the next battle. Win on Sunday.
Isn't the Krause/Jackson feud  
AcesUp : 1/27/2022 3:10 pm : link
largely responsible for prematurely ending that dynasty? Maybe it's also an outlier having arguably the best NBA player of all time?

It's probably overstated but I think it is more important for this franchise at this time. There's not a whole lot of stable footing to lean on here. This franchise is in disarray and needs an overhaul, we're not the 90s Bulls. They need to build something, so it certainly helps to have two leaders on the same page.

At the very least, hold them both equally accountable during the rough patches. Enough of this scapegoating BS, let them succeed or fail together.
Did anyone else start to question decision making abilities  
BLUATHRT : 1/27/2022 3:14 pm : link
with Judge when he was wearing full on sweatsuits in the dead of summer? Found it odd...
more stupid media takes  
ZogZerg : 1/27/2022 3:15 pm : link
..
do the Giants have an LT  
KDavies : 1/27/2022 3:32 pm : link
or a Michael Jordan?
What the fans care about, is that really relevant to how the Giants  
Jack Stroud : 1/27/2022 3:45 pm : link
organization function? I think not.
RE: do the Giants have an LT  
Samiam : 1/27/2022 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15578773 KDavies said:
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or a Michael Jordan?

You beat me to the punch.
O'Connor has been dead-on this year  
gameday555 : 1/27/2022 4:11 pm : link
But this is just an absurd take that cherry picks from the past and ignores the present.
RE: Parcells and Young may have disliked each other  
Victor in CT : 1/27/2022 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15578667 Greg from LI said:
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But their football philosophies aligned.


bingo!
some are being a little hyperbolic  
Eric on Li : 1/27/2022 4:32 pm : link
the relationship needs to be functional. Krause/Jackson was dysfunctional and only covered up by MJ. That's not a model to emulate.

but the head coach in football is the franchise in a lot of ways. that's why they get paid so much. the GM needs to align with the head coaches vision more than the other way around.

it's hard enough to find a good head coach in the NFL with a wide open search without eliminating any candidates. it only gets harder if you eliminate any candidate who isn't 100% harmonious with the GM.
Of all the things you lot obsess about  
David B. : 1/27/2022 4:37 pm : link
This is way more important than most. As anyone who remembers the Young/Reeves era (GM drafting guys a HC refuses to play) can attest.
I’m at the  
Daniel in MI : 1/27/2022 8:49 pm : link
Point where I don’t care if they have fight club in the break room. Just as long as they win.
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