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Joe Schoen’s Giants overhaul is coming

GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 7:46 pm
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Figure Schoen after evaluating what he has and what he does not in the building will make a move to hire someone for a title sounding something like director of research and technology. There is work to be done in that area, although the Giants did make strides the past few years under Dave Gettleman, sent into retirement after four losing seasons. It is not as if the Giants did not try to overhaul and get more up-to-date. They fired five college scouts, changed the pro personnel director and beefed up the analytics department. The losing continued, though, which is why Schoen will dive in even further.

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Magnets  
Les in TO : 1/27/2022 8:01 pm : link
Are a nice start. Maybe overhead projectors, binders and typewriters will be next to go!
Ok, you can take away the Magnets...  
Giant16 : 1/27/2022 8:03 pm : link
But leave the stack of Ourlad's.
RE: Magnets  
Sean : 1/27/2022 8:03 pm : link
In comment 15579151 Les in TO said:
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Are a nice start. Maybe overhead projectors, binders and typewriters will be next to go!

The binders are always so embarrassing on the draft videos. Like a damn phone book.
I heard  
Fast Eddie : 1/27/2022 8:04 pm : link
He found some white out in Getts draft room 😂
Not expecting  
darren in pdx : 1/27/2022 8:04 pm : link
any big changes until after the draft.
RE: RE: Magnets  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15579157 Sean said:
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In comment 15579151 Les in TO said:


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Are a nice start. Maybe overhead projectors, binders and typewriters will be next to go!


The binders are always so embarrassing on the draft videos. Like a damn phone book.



I heard Gettleman was big into Post-it notes.
Dibs on the magnets  
CV36 : 1/27/2022 8:05 pm : link
I want them for my fantasy football team
New GM means changes  
David B. : 1/27/2022 8:06 pm : link
In other news Pope still Catholic. Franco still dead.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2022 8:08 pm : link
Can't fire the scouts until after the draft. But I like how Schoen has a good feel on prospects so if these scouts sell him on dudes he know who suck...I expect them to be shown the door.
Just don’t  
3rdnlong : 1/27/2022 8:10 pm : link
Get rid of the rolodex
RE: ...  
Fast Eddie : 1/27/2022 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15579170 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Can't fire the scouts until after the draft. But I like how Schoen has a good feel on prospects so if these scouts sell him on dudes he know who suck...I expect them to be shown the door.


That’s an interesting thought. He has already gone through the first four rounds while with the Bills. I’m guessing he will be doing some comparisons
RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15579170 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Can't fire the scouts until after the draft. But I like how Schoen has a good feel on prospects so if these scouts sell him on dudes he know who suck...I expect them to be shown the door.


The front office person who briefed Schoen on the "11 draft picks this year" is surely getting fired.
What about the guy that carves everything onto  
eli4life : 1/27/2022 8:15 pm : link
The stone tablets?
They keep the binders  
Ben in Tampa : 1/27/2022 8:24 pm : link
because Chris Mara doesn't like reading them off a computer monitor
Keep the magnets  
TroyArchersGhost : 1/27/2022 8:31 pm : link
Chris uses them to display his crayon drawings on the refrigerator in the owners' lounge.
I wonder if he took Abrams...  
Johnny5 : 1/27/2022 8:32 pm : link
... Abacus
RE: I heard  
Les in TO : 1/27/2022 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15579161 Fast Eddie said:
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He found some white out in Getts draft room 😂
yup right next to his floppy disks.
The best thing I heard in the presser yesterday was that Schoen  
arniefez : 1/27/2022 8:38 pm : link
was four rounds into the draft before he left Buffalo. I hope he has the deciding vote in the draft room.
if it doesn't include QB  
Producer : 1/27/2022 8:39 pm : link
it's completely meaningless
Pretty sure...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/27/2022 8:46 pm : link
...DG had " binders full of Mollies!"
Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
BillT : 1/27/2022 8:56 pm : link
But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.
RE: Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
Sean : 1/27/2022 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15579235 BillT said:
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But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.

Still blaming Reese?
We’re finally going to digitize  
Gap92 : 1/27/2022 9:18 pm : link
All that microfiche
RE: RE: Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
Brown_Hornet : 1/27/2022 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15579237 Sean said:
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In comment 15579235 BillT said:


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But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.


Still blaming Reese?
It's probably fair to "kill" them both for the lack of talent.
RE: Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/27/2022 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15579235 BillT said:
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But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.


Stop trying to credit Dave Gettleman and his historically poor reign.



Let's make this simple  
arniefez : 1/27/2022 9:25 pm : link
Jerry Reese = major part of 2 Super Bowl wins, even though it ended badly.

Dave Gettleman = worst GM in NY Giants history and it was getting worse when it ended.
RE: What about the guy that carves everything onto  
AFC11 : 1/27/2022 10:29 pm : link
In comment 15579183 eli4life said:
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The stone tablets?


OK that was droll
RE: Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
Jimmy Googs : 1/27/2022 11:40 pm : link
In comment 15579235 BillT said:
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But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.


Hate to break the news to you but outside of a decent Left Tackle, we do have nothing.

Where have you been...on Mars?

RE: if it doesn't include QB  
Tom in NY : 1/27/2022 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15579210 Producer said:
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it's completely meaningless


Looks like someone is nervous that actual football experts may have a different opinion than he.
RE: Let's make this simple  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 1/27/2022 11:53 pm : link
In comment 15579269 arniefez said:
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Jerry Reese = major part of 2 Super Bowl wins, even though it ended badly.

Dave Gettleman = worst GM in NY Giants history and it was getting worse when it ended.


Not gonna defend Gettleman’s GM rein, but ge also played a major role in getting those two rings with Reese.
RE: RE: Folks are killing DG on the analytics stuff  
dancing blue bear : 1/28/2022 12:20 am : link
In comment 15579353 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15579235 BillT said:


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But if it weren’t for him we’d have nothing. Reese was the one who left the cupboard bare. Both in analytics and roster wise.



Hate to break the news to you but outside of a decent Left Tackle, we do have nothing.

Where have you been...on Mars?


I disagree. I think there are some players. Particularly on defense. With a good DC and draft I expect a solid defense next year. Kicker is good too.

Offense has decent to good skill position players if healthy.

The wild card contenders in the nfc are not good teams (Philly made it). I expect the team to contend for the 6/7 seed next year. If we made the right hires
Switching from WordPerfect to Word  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/28/2022 1:05 am : link
...and dot matrix to inkjet.
Switch from WordPerfect to Word? Not if you're a lawyer.  
Marty in Albany : 1/28/2022 1:54 am : link
And I'd go with a laser printer, too.
What Gettleman's computer probably looked like...  
Tom from LI : 1/28/2022 7:34 am : link
Gettleman's computer  
chick310 : 1/28/2022 7:47 am : link


RE: Magnets  
Gruber : 1/28/2022 8:35 am : link
In comment 15579151 Les in TO said:
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Are a nice start. Maybe overhead projectors, binders and typewriters will be next to go!


Lasers.
Need to get lasers.
I haven't seen it mentioned...  
BMac : 1/28/2022 8:40 am : link
...so I guess the giant dartboard is going to remain a centerpiece of the draft room.
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