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Leslie Frazier.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2022 7:50 pm
I am pretty sure he won't get the job, but is anyone else worried that he's the last interview/most fresh on the minds of the decision makers when it comes time to make the HC call? He gets his second interview tomorrow morning.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and everything, but the thought of him as HC...well...that's a tough sell to me & I suspect a lot of us.

I wasn't enamored with the job he did in MN & the lasting memory of Sunday-to me-was the Bills D those last 13 seconds.

I'm 99.8% confident he won't be our next HC, but there's still that small percentage something crazy happens. Perhaps Schoen wants Daboll & Mara wants Flores & somehow Frazier is the compromise pick....
If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 7:53 pm : link
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No  
jvm52106 : 1/27/2022 7:54 pm : link
Not at all
RE: If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
Bill in UT : 1/27/2022 7:56 pm : link
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They have to interview him to meet the Rooney Rule. They may decide tonight, but they can't say anything until after the Frazier interview.
His chance of becoming our HC is zero, imo  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2022 8:00 pm : link
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RE: RE: If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2022 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15579147 Bill in UT said:
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They have to interview him to meet the Rooney Rule. They may decide tonight, but they can't say anything until after the Frazier interview.


Flores satisfied tge Rooney rule today
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Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2022 8:01 pm : link
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RE: RE: If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15579147 Bill in UT said:
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They have to interview him to meet the Rooney Rule. They may decide tonight, but they can't say anything until after the Frazier interview.


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The Flores interview will fulfill the Rooney Rule requirement that stipulates a team must meet in person with at least one minority candidate from outside its organization.

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Schoen wants Frazier last  
Finch : 1/27/2022 8:02 pm : link
So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!
RE: Schoen wants Frazier last  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 8:04 pm : link
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So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!


Thinking 3 moves ahead...lol
RE: RE: Schoen wants Frazier last  
eli4life : 1/27/2022 8:18 pm : link
In comment 15579159 GFAN52 said:
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So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!



Thinking 3 moves ahead...lol


In all fairness he only needs one cause Mara is playing checkers
RE: RE: RE: Schoen wants Frazier last  
GFAN52 : 1/27/2022 8:21 pm : link
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So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!



Thinking 3 moves ahead...lol



In all fairness he only needs one cause Mara is playing checkers


RE: RE: RE: If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
Bill in UT : 1/27/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15579150 Big Blue '56 said:
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They have to interview him to meet the Rooney Rule. They may decide tonight, but they can't say anything until after the Frazier interview.



Flores satisfied tge Rooney rule today


I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but after reading numerous threads on this this week, the verdict seemed to be that you needed 2 face to face minority interviews. I'm just repeating what I've seen
Frazier would be the blandest move in an offseason  
j_rud : 1/27/2022 8:39 pm : link
that saw Washington re-christen themselves the "Commanders"
RE: RE: RE: RE: If they decide tonight, he may not even get the interview tomorrow  
eli4life : 1/27/2022 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15579198 Bill in UT said:
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They have to interview him to meet the Rooney Rule. They may decide tonight, but they can't say anything until after the Frazier interview.



Flores satisfied tge Rooney rule today



I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but after reading numerous threads on this this week, the verdict seemed to be that you needed 2 face to face minority interviews. I'm just repeating what I've seen


To be fair either way I could swear I read it both ways a couple months ago. But with all th talk about how the league adjusted the hiring process and how it really has affected how long it’s taken to start getting these jobs filled, I would probably lean towards it’s two in person meetings
The Giants are interviewing three minority candidates,  
an_idol_mind : 1/27/2022 8:48 pm : link
It would be cool if we could stop claiming that every black candidate was being interviewed only to satisfy the Rooney rule.
Leslie Frazier  
SleepyOwl : 1/27/2022 8:52 pm : link
Was as legit a candidate as anyone until his prevent defense prevented his team from winning and as a result will prevent him from possibly ever becoming a HC in this league.
But to act like that Bills defense wasn’t humming like a jet engine all season is ludicrous. He had the number 1 defense in the league, while not having a single player named to the pro bowl on that side of the ball.
I think he's a dark horse  
theold5j : 1/27/2022 9:15 pm : link
Candidate. Daboll to Miami, giants get cold feet about the way Flores stories......not saying I want him cause I don't. I just don't think it's far fetched.
RE: I think he's a dark horse  
jeff57 : 1/27/2022 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15579256 theold5j said:
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Candidate. Daboll to Miami, giants get cold feet about the way Flores stories......not saying I want him cause I don't. I just don't think it's far fetched.


He was a head coach. I don’t know what happened on the Kelce play, but I think it was a screwup and not a prevent defense. They rushed four. But the point is that it shouldn’t wipe out the great defensive job he did all season.
I don’t believe he’s what we need here.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2022 9:42 pm : link
No way one game is going to effect a pro or con decision, imv..That would be a stupid way to reach a decision, imo
You always want to bring an experienced guy last  
Vanzetti : 1/27/2022 9:44 pm : link
Even if you have 99% made up your mind on another candidate.

Even though Frazier might not get the job, his interview might impact who does get it.

RE: RE: I think he's a dark horse  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 1/28/2022 12:04 am : link
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Candidate. Daboll to Miami, giants get cold feet about the way Flores stories......not saying I want him cause I don't. I just don't think it's far fetched.



He was a head coach. I don’t know what happened on the Kelce play, but I think it was a screwup and not a prevent defense. They rushed four. But the point is that it shouldn’t wipe out the great defensive job he did all season.


I agree he’s a stud DC and yes he does have HC experience. I see him more as a permanent DC type guy though, like Dick Lebeau, Jim Johnson. Wade Phillips was an awesome DC but not a good HC. Norv Turner was an amazing OC and a terrible HC. I think the skillsets are just very different.
If you look at our recent history, first time HC’s don’t do well. That  
plato : 1/28/2022 2:54 am : link
Might tend to make Flores. First choice, and + he comes from Brooklyn, which should solidify it. Seems Major ? Is what went down in Florida with Ross etc.

Daboll worries me In many many areas, so choose your worries. Flores ticks more important boxes, especially past HC experience for me. I think Mara goes same way.
RE: Schoen wants Frazier last  
Jim in Tampa : 1/28/2022 6:00 am : link
In comment 15579155 Finch said:
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So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!

Schoen's last name is not pronunced like you think. If you're looking to rhyme maybe go with "Schoen Train".
Milquetoast...  
GiantTuff1 : 1/28/2022 7:08 am : link
I also think it possible that the interview times were shorter the first time with Daboll and Frazier with their prep for the Bills Chiefs game hence the second interviews.

I want whoever is best for NYG, but personally this would be exactly on par with the Shurmur hire for me. Hard pass.
RE: RE: Schoen wants Frazier last  
Finch : 1/28/2022 7:48 am : link
In comment 15579415 Jim in Tampa said:
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So the last impression on Mara is not Flores. Shift the momentum back in the direction of Daboll.

Schoen’s playing chess. Welcome to the age of the Schoen Throne!!!


Schoen's last name is not pronunced like you think. If you're looking to rhyme maybe go with "Schoen Train".


Ah good catch…. ALL ABOARD THE SCHOEN TRAIN!!!
I think it s more likely that  
joeinpa : 1/28/2022 8:58 am : link
The Giants have already decided it s between Dabol and Flores and that Frazier would have to blow their socks off in an interview to change that.

That scenerio is unlikely.
I think he is a good candidate  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/28/2022 9:27 am : link
and overall I think posters are a little harsh in defining a good HC. Frazier won in this league. He has fielded a top defense that McDermott has said is all his. He would not be my choice but if he got the job I'd root for him and would not have a Giants are doomed mindset. Very respected around the league. That carries a lot of weight with me if he was able to assemble a real good staff.

Wade Phillips was also a good HC. Five winning seasons in 9 years at three different stops. High upper tier defensive coach.

Just because they are not a BP or BB does not mean they are not many good/solid HC's.
RE: I think he is a good candidate  
Angel Eyes : 1/28/2022 9:50 am : link
In comment 15579612 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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and overall I think posters are a little harsh in defining a good HC. Frazier won in this league. He has fielded a top defense that McDermott has said is all his. He would not be my choice but if he got the job I'd root for him and would not have a Giants are doomed mindset. Very respected around the league. That carries a lot of weight with me if he was able to assemble a real good staff.

Wade Phillips was also a good HC. Five winning seasons in 9 years at three different stops. High upper tier defensive coach.

Just because they are not a BP or BB does not mean they are not many good/solid HC's.

I wouldn't mind Frazier as a DC myself.
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