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The case for Pederson

Fish : 1/28/2022 10:06 am
I’m a suprised he is not mentioned more. If experience in a coach is what you prefer than Pederson over Flores. Pederson obviously had more success. I also think Pederson would like to stick it to the eagles and the giants hiring him would be a power move. I realize hiring someone worrying about another team is not the way to go. But a little extra something here works. Our last few coaches were all experiments. This would be a strong move getting someone with his experience.
No thanks…  
Chris in Philly : 1/28/2022 10:06 am : link
Not a fan. At all.
something  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/28/2022 10:07 am : link
is going on with Pederson. Has any team interviewed him?
Fuck him  
JonC : 1/28/2022 10:08 am : link
he's a loon.
RE: something  
Saos1n : 1/28/2022 10:08 am : link
In comment 15579694 Eric from BBI said:
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is going on with Pederson. Has any team interviewed him?


Was having the same thought. Strange
He's a clown  
BLUATHRT : 1/28/2022 10:08 am : link
Not interested for a second.
Its odd he hasn't received any interviews.  
j_rud : 1/28/2022 10:09 am : link
Bit of a red flag, or maybe he's not that interested.
Still getting paid  
bronxct1 : 1/28/2022 10:09 am : link
Pederson is also still getting paid so I wonder how eager he is to jump back into things when he can just chill with his family and collect the rest of his contract.
RE: something  
Fish : 1/28/2022 10:11 am : link
In comment 15579694 Eric from BBI said:
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is going on with Pederson. Has any team interviewed him?


Thinking same. Skeleton in the closets maybe lol
I thought the bears interviewed him?  
Eric on Li : 1/28/2022 10:12 am : link
google says minnesota and denver reached out too.

either way I do agree it seems there must be something off because you would think his resume would have him in more demand.

could also be that he's being selective and not looking to jump back in at the first job that comes along. very strange career so far.
With HC's, and I guess any player, there is more to it than what we  
PatersonPlank : 1/28/2022 10:12 am : link
see on the field once a week. There is how you get along with your peers and management, and the affect you have on the team. Rumors swirl about Pederson just being a jerk. I guess this would apply to any job. Even if you are doing ok, if everyone hates you they will get you out (as they should)
RE: Fuck him  
Sammo85 : 1/28/2022 10:13 am : link
In comment 15579697 JonC said:
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he's a loon.


Maybe. But with the Eagles and Roseman and Lurie, he might have been the sanest football adult in that room. Scary.

I'm still on record as saying that hair is fake  
j_rud : 1/28/2022 10:14 am : link
It's attached to the visor and no one can convince me otherwise.
There are a bunch of openings  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/28/2022 10:14 am : link
and he is only apparently being part of the discussion in three cases.
Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
penkap75 : 1/28/2022 10:14 am : link
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RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Fish : 1/28/2022 10:22 am : link
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I thought Reich was the reason for his success as well. Reich left and the eagles fell apart. That being said Brass also wanted Wentz out and so went Pederson I think.
There was a rumored sex scandal in KC years ago  
DCOrange : 1/28/2022 10:25 am : link
I was surprised it went away so easily and he was hired as a HC afterwards. Cheating on his wife with a 20-something front office employee.
RE: RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Sammo85 : 1/28/2022 10:40 am : link
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I thought Reich was the reason for his success as well. Reich left and the eagles fell apart. That being said Brass also wanted Wentz out and so went Pederson I think.


Not entirely fair. Reich was a huge help (and adds to the argument, it's not just a HC, it's how good of a staff can be built around the HC). But, Wentz went down the tubes quickly and again the following year due to injury. Pederson also had success following season with major injuries on roster and nearly won another playoff game with Foles against the Saints.
Lauch Pad  
Straw Hat : 1/28/2022 10:46 am : link
McQuack lookin’ ass
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Straw Hat : 1/28/2022 10:47 am : link
Launchpad McQuack
Guy basically had a five year period like  
Essex : 1/28/2022 10:50 am : link
similar to what Coughlin had here. 3 playoffs, one Super Bowl, another year where they won a playoff game and people talk about him like he is some idiot off the street. He is an excellent head coach and probably a better one than Daboll or Flores will ever be. So, not sure why all the snarky and dismissive attitudes toward him. But ok
RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Essex : 1/28/2022 10:51 am : link
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Really because he has won so much in Indy.
Guy might have issues but he’s a super bowl winner  
Metnut : 1/28/2022 10:51 am : link
If you’re going to waste time talking to Leslie Frazier, you might as well hear what Pederson has to say, even if Daboll and Flores are the top candidates.
RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Essex : 1/28/2022 10:51 am : link
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And you do know that Pederson was the play caller right?
Pederson would be a viable candidate imo if he didn't lay down  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/28/2022 10:51 am : link
that game.

At the highest levels of leadership, you just can't do that, intentionally lose. Anyone who has lead people through adversity understands this.
Beat Belichick  
Thegratefulhead : 1/28/2022 10:55 am : link
With Nick Folk, but there has to be something they all know that we don't. I was very interested in a proven head coach but this lack of interested is unsettling.
RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Jay on the Island : 1/28/2022 10:57 am : link
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My brother in law is an Eagles fan and he is convinced that Reich was the reason they won the superbowl.
RE: Pederson would be a viable candidate imo if he didn't lay down  
j_rud : 1/28/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15579857 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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that game.

At the highest levels of leadership, you just can't do that, intentionally lose. Anyone who has lead people through adversity understands this.


I really think it was directed from higher up.
Pedersen  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/28/2022 10:57 am : link

Has interviewed for the Broncos, Vikings and Bears.

I'm a no on him. Sorry.. That BS at the end of the season in 2020 was clown shoes.
Pederson "gets it"  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/28/2022 11:00 am : link
you have to simplify the game for your quarterback.

However as everyone agrees he's a total doucher.
RE: Pederson  
Essex : 1/28/2022 11:05 am : link
In comment 15579879 Spiciest Memelord said:
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you have to simplify the game for your quarterback.

However as everyone agrees he's a total doucher.

I don't know if everyone agrees about that, what I think we can all agree is that he did not have the nerve to tell the front office to go ef themselves when they told them how they wanted to handle the game.
RE: *  
Johnny5 : 1/28/2022 11:07 am : link
In comment 15579843 Straw Hat said:
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Launchpad McQuack

lol

RE: RE: Pederson would be a viable candidate imo if he didn't lay down  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/28/2022 11:09 am : link
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that game.

At the highest levels of leadership, you just can't do that, intentionally lose. Anyone who has lead people through adversity understands this.



I really think it was directed from higher up.


If thats true, that's got to get out. And why destroy your own reputation to do that and then get fired? I dont know, I guess anythings possible but man what a doublecross.
RE: RE: RE: Pederson would be a viable candidate imo if he didn't lay down  
Essex : 1/28/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15579901 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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that game.

At the highest levels of leadership, you just can't do that, intentionally lose. Anyone who has lead people through adversity understands this.



I really think it was directed from higher up.



If thats true, that's got to get out. And why destroy your own reputation to do that and then get fired? I dont know, I guess anythings possible but man what a doublecross.


he went along with it, so he is just as guilty
and I mean that in terms of why he wont expose it  
Essex : 1/28/2022 11:11 am : link
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RE: Guy basically had a five year period like  
Fish : 1/28/2022 11:20 am : link
In comment 15579850 Essex said:
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similar to what Coughlin had here. 3 playoffs, one Super Bowl, another year where they won a playoff game and people talk about him like he is some idiot off the street. He is an excellent head coach and probably a better one than Daboll or Flores will ever be. So, not sure why all the snarky and dismissive attitudes toward him. But ok


x2 his resume speaks volumes compared to the rest. As for the douchery comments look we aren’t hiring him to be best friends with the players. We want him to lead and coach. Coughlin was a dick at one point.
RE: RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
penkap75 : 1/28/2022 11:20 am : link
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Really because he has won so much in Indy.


Yeah, Frank Reich sucks, he only took the Colts to the playoffs twice in his 4 seasons as HC.
We've got 3 finalists  
AcesUp : 1/28/2022 11:21 am : link
The campaign window has already closed.
RE: We've got 3 finalists  
ZogZerg : 1/28/2022 11:29 am : link
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The campaign window has already closed.


LOL!
RE: RE: RE: Maybe Frank Reich was the reason they won that year.  
Essex : 1/28/2022 11:39 am : link
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Really because he has won so much in Indy.



Yeah, Frank Reich sucks, he only took the Colts to the playoffs twice in his 4 seasons as HC.

nobody says he sucks, but you said he was responsible for the Super Bowl and
1). Pederson was the play caller
2). Reich has not won anything in Indy close to a super bowl

So, I guess by your logic Parcells never won anything without Bellichick so it must have been all because of BB. And, BB actually has won titles away from Parcells, not just made the playoffs 50% of the time.

RE: RE: Pederson  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/28/2022 11:46 am : link
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you have to simplify the game for your quarterback.

However as everyone agrees he's a total doucher.


I don't know if everyone agrees about that, what I think we can all agree is that he did not have the nerve to tell the front office to go ef themselves when they told them how they wanted to handle the game.


I digress. We can all agree he has a very punchable face.
Frank Reich took...  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 11:51 am : link
the Colts job in 2018, right after the Eagles won the SB.

In 2018 and 2019, Pederson did some incredible coaching to guide the Eagles back to the playoffs with an insane number of injuries. That work gets lost in the sauce and should be applauded.

I would have brought him in for an interview 5 minutes after Judge was dismissed. Unfortunately, it seems Jints Central is still irked by the last game in 2020, which is juvenile, and are likely holding a grudge because we potentially missed out on "winning" the worst division in NFL history that year...
bw, I dont think its that, ok hell might be part of it for Mara  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/28/2022 11:55 am : link
but I think its more he lost that team, the players because he laid down. Football is all about culture and buy in. How do you trust him with your org after he let his entire team down? He had to be fired then as his own vets were questioning the move. Tanking because you genuinely suck is one thing but benching Hurts to play Sudfeld is "Lets lose this game." I don't want that guy anywhere near my team.
In today's NFL  
ghost718 : 1/28/2022 12:03 pm : link
I wouldn't assume it has anything to do with Pederson personally.

It's clear one of the things the league is pushing,with these weak ass coaching lists,is younger guys.
RE: bw, I dont think its that, ok hell might be part of it for Mara  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15579992 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but I think its more he lost that team, the players because he laid down. Football is all about culture and buy in. How do you trust him with your org after he let his entire team down? He had to be fired then as his own vets were questioning the move. Tanking because you genuinely suck is one thing but benching Hurts to play Sudfeld is "Lets lose this game." I don't want that guy anywhere near my team.


It's never been clear to me what the hell happened that night.

Let's face it. Hurts wasn't playing great in that game vs WFT. When he was pulled, the Eagles were losing, and Hurts was 7/20 for 72 yards 0 TDs/1 INT. And a miserable 3.6 YPA. His QBR was something like 25. Just a horrible performance throwing. Granted, he did have 2 TDs rushing in the first half but was hardly a threat thereafter.
RE: Frank Reich took...  
Johnny5 : 1/28/2022 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15579982 bw in dc said:
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the Colts job in 2018, right after the Eagles won the SB.

In 2018 and 2019, Pederson did some incredible coaching to guide the Eagles back to the playoffs with an insane number of injuries. That work gets lost in the sauce and should be applauded.

I would have brought him in for an interview 5 minutes after Judge was dismissed. Unfortunately, it seems Jints Central is still irked by the last game in 2020, which is juvenile, and are likely holding a grudge because we potentially missed out on "winning" the worst division in NFL history that year...

I don't care about the game in 2020. I'd be OK with Pederson, because really WTF do I know about him? I know that the Eagles kicked our asses while he was there, and he won a SB. Really the one and only thing that gives me pause, for a SB winning HC he really doesn't seem to have much interest from any other teams needing a HC. I find that very curious.
I like the hard nose experienced HCs  
Beer Man : 1/28/2022 12:50 pm : link
that have won SBs. I haven't read through this thread, so it has probably been mentioned a few times, but teams are likely shying away from Pederson due to his tanking the final game at the end of the 2020 season.
RE: RE: Frank Reich took...  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15580066 Johnny5 said:
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the Colts job in 2018, right after the Eagles won the SB.

In 2018 and 2019, Pederson did some incredible coaching to guide the Eagles back to the playoffs with an insane number of injuries. That work gets lost in the sauce and should be applauded.

I would have brought him in for an interview 5 minutes after Judge was dismissed. Unfortunately, it seems Jints Central is still irked by the last game in 2020, which is juvenile, and are likely holding a grudge because we potentially missed out on "winning" the worst division in NFL history that year...


I don't care about the game in 2020. I'd be OK with Pederson, because really WTF do I know about him? I know that the Eagles kicked our asses while he was there, and he won a SB. Really the one and only thing that gives me pause, for a SB winning HC he really doesn't seem to have much interest from any other teams needing a HC. I find that very curious.


I agree. The market seems soft for Pederson and that is perplexing. If McCarthy had a market, why not Pederson?

And McCarthy, 58, won a SB with a surefire HoF QB. Pederson, 53, won a SB with a back-up QB.

So maybe there is something there we just aren't privy to...

Or maybe its staring you in the face?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/28/2022 1:09 pm : link
The ultimate competitors will have a hard time respecting this man.

Dude won a SB with a backup. Beat Brady. Brought a title to Philly. But at the end of it his own team was questioning what the hell he did there by losing that game.
RE: I like the hard nose experienced HCs  
Beer Man : 1/28/2022 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15580120 Beer Man said:
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that have won SBs. I haven't read through this thread, so it has probably been mentioned a few times, but teams are likely shying away from Pederson due to his tanking the final game at the end of the 2020 season.
The league has has to maintain a level of integrity, especially when games are being bet on.
Tiki  
vonritz : 1/28/2022 5:24 pm : link
Bar?
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