Art- "That's why, I'm hearing, Flores went into yesterday's interview with the Giants expressing an open mind and a desire to put together a collaborative offensive plan. Sounds like Flores is willing to accept the road he was on in Miami won't work in his second chance, if he gets one"
Schultz-"Source says part of Brian Flores’ pitch to the #Giants is being more open to which offensive coaches the organization wants to hire. This is a stark contrast to his time with Chris Grier and the #Dolphins, where Flores was more adamant about coaches/personnel. Smart move by Flo."
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You can't prevent agents from "leaking" information, even if not true, to pump up the value of their clients.
My hunch is that Flores agents have been actively feeding the media with information about Giants process to make their client look better. Mara confirmed yesterday that he called Flores to let him know he would be interviewed but how did the media know about it before Schoen was hired as GM? Flores team is leaking this stuff.
I know Bill O'Brien was mentioned, but it sounds like he might return to New England, especially if Josh McDaniels gets hired in Vegas. And Matt Nagy would make sense to return to Kansas City if Eric Bieniemy gets a HC, job.
"You talk the talk. Can you walk the walk."
You minimize it ... but isn't that what you (we) want to hear and see from Mara & Co?
The questions are Will he actually do it? Is he a person that can really self reflective, take constructive critism change and grow? His resume is the most impressive when you look at it in totally to Daboll ... Actuall Quinn would be the close 2nd considering he actually to a team to a SB as the HC vs an Assistant or Coordinator and some could say he should be 1st if you weight that even more heavily.
We are one big collaborating mess in NY...
I was pretty even on Daboll v Flores, but this might tip the scales away from Flores permanently for me.
I was pretty even on Daboll v Flores, but this might tip the scales away from Flores permanently for me.
My feeling as well. It'd be like if Schoen asked ownership to pick a head coach for him because he's not good at it.
I think a major concern by Schoen would be that Flores would insist on running the offense his way. Flores likely made the right statement that he'd be willing to follow the FO's lead on how to run an offense.
If you can't find a competent offensive staff, maybe you should be a DC
If you can't find a competent offensive staff, maybe you should be a DC
+1
If you can't find a competent offensive staff, maybe you should be a DC
Couldn't agree more.
If you can't find a competent offensive staff, maybe you should be a DC
True; funnily enough, Flores has never actually been a DC before. He jumped right from being the New England linebackers coach to the head coaching job at Miami.
I think a major concern by Schoen would be that Flores would insist on running the offense his way. Flores likely made the right statement that he'd be willing to follow the FO's lead on how to run an offense.
Read this post a couple times guys. I think this is what's going on here. Flores is trying to cozy up to Schoen here.
Mara isnt picking the OC, but Schoen will likely have an idea of what kind of offense he wants to run.
If you can't find a competent offensive staff, maybe you should be a DC
Ditto for special teams coordinators, no?
If Garrett was forced on Judge, it was because he had trouble getting solid coordinators and position coaches to join him and the owners seemed to admit they made a mistake trusting a coach who had limited higher level coordinator or any head coaching experience. He had a very small tenure with Alabama and was part of the Pats more closed end staffing network.
This is a sneaky reason why Daboll has value in how many places he's been. He's got a lot of networks/relations mingled about the last 15-18 years in NFL and college.
This sounds to me like Flores was obviously trying to address that.
If stuff is said about someone, should they not try to address what was said?
Has Joe Brady's star already burned out? What about Jim Caldwell? He's likely not getting any other HC gigs.
He definitely just sat there and said "you guys pick the OC".
Look underneath the hood. For every single one of these so called "geniuses" there are a stud/franchise/top 10 QBs with the exception of maybe only Shannahan.
Also, I've never a coordinator do more with less than Pat Shurmur with Case Keenum in 2017. How'd that work out for us?
Definitely feels this way. Flores really wants the Giants, but I don’t think the feeling is mutual
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Which OCs could he mean? Matt Nagy? Bill Lazor? Klint Kubiak?
I know Bill O'Brien was mentioned, but it sounds like he might return to New England, especially if Josh McDaniels gets hired in Vegas. And Matt Nagy would make sense to return to Kansas City if Eric Bieniemy gets a HC, job.
I don't even think any team has nterviewed Bieniemy. I think his only hope of ever becoming a HC is if Reid wins the Superbowl in KC this year and decides he's going out on top.
Hahaha!