Flores is not that guy. Fans also want stability with the coaching staff, Flores is also not that guy since he's had 4 OC's in 3 years. Fans also hated how conservative and unaggressive Judge was on 4th down, fans would hate Flores because he is worse.
you may prefer Daboll or someone else, but provide some context to the 24-25 record. The first year the Dolphins traded everyone and we’re tanking. Flores surprised everyone and won 5 games. The next two seasons he had winning records in both of them. He has done that despite a horrible OL, and below average QB play.
There are legitimate concerns regarding how good his oc will be, the circumstances of leaving, etc., but dismissing his accomplishments in getting that record is pretty ignorant
RE: Because with a first name like Brain, he is bound to be smart
Because he’s proven he can take a major turd and get it to be respectable and competitive very quickly... and that’s what we need. Plus he’s from a Brooklyn.
He won 19 games the past 2 seasons with a poor roster.
2019 - dolphins vegas O/U 4.5 wins, they won 5
2020 - dolphins vegas O/U 6 wins, they won 10 (3rd in COY voting)
2021 - dolphins vegas O/U 9.5 wins, they won 9
in aggregate he was +4 wins but what stands out to me is that each year he met or exceeded expectations given circumstances.
the losing year might be the most impressive because everyone thought miami was openly tanking for tua and many legitimately questioned whether or not they would win more than 1 game. they traded Tunsil at the end of preseason and then traded fitzpatrick 2 weeks later. they learned real quick Josh Rosen wasn't the answer. that team was a literal practice squad roster and they somehow beat brady in week 17 to keep NE from getting a bye week.
its funny but for a fan base that has seen just 14 wins in the last 3 years and 0 winning seasons since 2016, we are really quick to say 24 wins in the last 3 years and 2 winning seasons in a row is trash.
im not flores or bust but i find it bizarre that some can't see the logic in hiring a coach with a track record as opposed to promoting a coordinator without one for the 4th time in a row. but hey, maybe the law of averages is finally in our favor.
Let me check the 40 other threads on the topic and see if I can dig up some answers for you. So let's put a pin in this and we'll circle next week. Sound good?
Let me check the 40 other threads on the topic and see if I can dig up some answers for you. So let's put a pin in this and we'll circle next week. Sound good?
I see you are a new poster - welcome. This is a great place with knowledgable fans. There is some policing - which I agree with. Most threads are active so when post a thread title like this, it will have a reaction. Personally - my eyes saw it and thought the hiring was official and you were reacting.
Let me check the 40 other threads on the topic and see if I can dig up some answers for you. So let's put a pin in this and we'll circle next week. Sound good?
Let me check the 40 other threads on the topic and see if I can dig up some answers for you. So let's put a pin in this and we'll circle next week. Sound good?
only 32 of these jobs, there is no way we should be considering him, but Mara-Tisch chimera. Maybe its unfair he says she says BS, bit its not the Giants job to untangle that mess either.
Flores went to a rebuilding team that literally traded away nearly any veteran with trade value. Most expected them to go 1-15 or 2-14 if they were very lucky but instead went 5-11 with the least talented roster in the league. What was more impressive is that the Dolphins lost so many players due to injury and spent several games starting CB's who they had just signed off the street that week.
At one point the Dolphins were starting three Giant castoffs on defense, Calvin Munson, Avery Moss, and John Jenkins.
The next season they went 10-6 which is incredible when you consider where they were the year before.
This season they almost went to the playoffs despite losing their starting QB for 8 games.
is whether he can learn to adapt and change like Tom Coughlin did.
he possesses the personality of a HC. He just has to learn to be more diplomatic and compromise. There is no doubt that he knows how to kick ass. That's what you have to worry about with Coach Krispy Kreme. Can he lead men? Not many can
Mara wants an ‘adult in the room’ cause Shurmer obviously wasn’t enough lol
There are legitimate concerns regarding how good his oc will be, the circumstances of leaving, etc., but dismissing his accomplishments in getting that record is pretty ignorant
I never thought of that. Interesting.
The last time the Dolphins won 19 games over a 2 year span, Kadarious Toney was 5 years old.
"John...if you don't listen to me..and hire one of these coaches...you'll disappoint me"
2020 - dolphins vegas O/U 6 wins, they won 10 (3rd in COY voting)
2021 - dolphins vegas O/U 9.5 wins, they won 9
in aggregate he was +4 wins but what stands out to me is that each year he met or exceeded expectations given circumstances.
the losing year might be the most impressive because everyone thought miami was openly tanking for tua and many legitimately questioned whether or not they would win more than 1 game. they traded Tunsil at the end of preseason and then traded fitzpatrick 2 weeks later. they learned real quick Josh Rosen wasn't the answer. that team was a literal practice squad roster and they somehow beat brady in week 17 to keep NE from getting a bye week.
its funny but for a fan base that has seen just 14 wins in the last 3 years and 0 winning seasons since 2016, we are really quick to say 24 wins in the last 3 years and 2 winning seasons in a row is trash.
im not flores or bust but i find it bizarre that some can't see the logic in hiring a coach with a track record as opposed to promoting a coordinator without one for the 4th time in a row. but hey, maybe the law of averages is finally in our favor.
Flores went nearly .500 with virtually no quarterback. And don't give me any shit that Tua will do anything in this league, it's unlikely he will.
LOL.
This ^
lol. CiPpy always makes me smile.
lol. CiPpy always makes me smile.
At one point the Dolphins were starting three Giant castoffs on defense, Calvin Munson, Avery Moss, and John Jenkins.
The next season they went 10-6 which is incredible when you consider where they were the year before.
This season they almost went to the playoffs despite losing their starting QB for 8 games.
he possesses the personality of a HC. He just has to learn to be more diplomatic and compromise. There is no doubt that he knows how to kick ass. That's what you have to worry about with Coach Krispy Kreme. Can he lead men? Not many can