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New York Giants officially hire Brian Daboll as head coach

bigblue12 : 1/28/2022 6:18 pm
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Another HC with Belichick/Saban experience  
Sean : 1/28/2022 7:12 pm : link
Daboll made his own mark though and shook free from Belichick.

Imagine being Joe Judge right now, he wanted Daboll as his OC.
He's Gonna Need  
Piranah In NC : 1/28/2022 7:12 pm : link
A Good Bottle of Tums.
RE: Bill Parcells said  
Beer Man : 1/28/2022 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15580812 Vanzetti said:
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the thing that most prepared him for being Giants HC was being HC at Air Force

Parcells and Coughlin are Giants only two successful coaches of the last 50 years and both had HC experience

So what do Giants do? Hire another career assistant like Judge, Shurmer,, and McAdoo
The ones they let get away are the bigger disappointments (Lombardi, Laundry, Baby Bill, Peyton)
Actually,  
Go Terps : 1/28/2022 7:13 pm : link
Zac Taylor was a QB coach when he became had coach.
The story shouldn’t be about Jones  
Sean : 1/28/2022 7:16 pm : link
It should be about Schoen-Daboll evaluating for the next QB. I think Jones *should* be irrelevant in all this.
RE: Looks like...  
Matt in SGS : 1/28/2022 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15580905 bw in dc said:
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we're now the New York Football Bills with the addition of Dorsey, too.

Is there any way now, we can trade both #1s this, next year, and the year after, plus Jones, for Allen? ;)


BW, we need to go with the New Jersey Bills if we are going to stick the way it was called in 1993 ;)
I'm curious if the Wink rumors  
Matt in SGS : 1/28/2022 7:17 pm : link
will end up being true too.
As expected,  
section125 : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
half of BBI bitching about the hire...
RE: The story shouldn’t be about Jones  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15580924 Sean said:
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It should be about Schoen-Daboll evaluating for the next QB. I think Jones *should* be irrelevant in all this.


Jesus, I wish I shared your view on this. I have the worst feeling a certain owner said to a certain new GM that he could have his new HC as long as both agreed to go with a certain QB.
RE: Worth noting...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/28/2022 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15580908 Go Terps said:
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3 of the 4 coaches coaching this weekend are on their first head coach jobs after being hired as "hot" offensive coordinators. The fourth (Andy Reid) never even had the offensive coordinator title before being hired as Philly's head coach.

Good coaches have to start somewhere.


The chances of Daboll being the next Sean McVay are infinitesimal. Shanahan had a much better resume and Zac Taylor sucked before Joe Burrow fell in his lap.

The player personnel in this situation will be everything.
BD is a good hire.  
Alamo : 1/28/2022 7:22 pm : link
Especially since he is offensive minded..And that means to me he's going to draft 2 Hog Mollies for the
O LINE,out of the 1st 3 picks in the draft..And give is new DC his edge guy..And it wouldn't surprise me that the 3rd round pick is a WR who can stay hopefully healthy all season..
May  
Les in TO : 1/28/2022 7:24 pm : link
This be the start of a successful new era of Giants football. Good luck coach Daboll!!
Ok what’s…  
Chris in Philly : 1/28/2022 7:25 pm : link
our next conspiracy theory? Mara is going to make Daboll go on a diet? Mara won’t let him change the menu in the cafeteria?
RE: RE: The story shouldn’t be about Jones  
Chris in Philly : 1/28/2022 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15580938 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15580924 Sean said:


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It should be about Schoen-Daboll evaluating for the next QB. I think Jones *should* be irrelevant in all this.



Jesus, I wish I shared your view on this. I have the worst feeling a certain owner said to a certain new GM that he could have his new HC as long as both agreed to go with a certain QB.


Ah, we found our conspiracy theory. That was an obvious one…
RE: Ok what’s…  
Matt in SGS : 1/28/2022 7:28 pm : link
In comment 15580970 Chris in Philly said:
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our next conspiracy theory? Mara is going to make Daboll go on a diet? Mara won’t let him change the menu in the cafeteria?


I don't think the Giants have ever had a bald head coach. He's going to have to wear Ernie's rug to make Mara feel more comfortable around him.
RE: RE: Bill Parcells said  
NYDCBlue : 1/28/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15580816 Producer said:
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In comment 15580812 Vanzetti said:


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the thing that most prepared him for being Giants HC was being HC at Air Force

Parcells and Coughlin are Giants only two successful coaches of the last 50 years and both had HC experience

So what do Giants do? Hire another career assistant like Judge, Shurmer,, and McAdoo



You are basing your entire argument on just the Giants and a sample size of two? There are a lot of amazing HCs who came out of OC/DC. How about looking at that universe of choices?


I like how you condensed his list of three to two.
Shurmer had been a HQ before...

You can say he had no HQ experience on the NFL level since it was the Browns, but the poster mentioned Air Force, and even Cleveland is as good as Air Force!
I wanted Flores but am all in on Schoen. I think he’s a smart hire  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/28/2022 7:32 pm : link
None of us know how this is going to go for sure. We’ll know soon enough.

Schoen wants this guy, good enough for me.

Go Giants!
Did  
Shady Lurker : 1/28/2022 7:32 pm : link
anyone else go through a roller coaster looking at his 100 pictures on the giants.com story?

I started from the end and was like, "Wow, he used to be in really good shape!"

10 pictures later. "And here's where he gets fat."

10 pictures later. "Oh shit, he got in shape again! Get it Daboll!"

10 pictures later. "And fat again."

10 pictures later. "Oh damn, he pulled it together again!"

Then comes the Buffalo era. "Just fat and fatter."

I'm looking forward to the next step in the journey
….  
ryanmkeane : 1/28/2022 7:33 pm : link
Let’s fucking go. Get this offense in order
RE: RE: RE: Bill Parcells said  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/28/2022 7:34 pm : link
In comment 15580982 NYDCBlue said:
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In comment 15580816 Producer said:


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In comment 15580812 Vanzetti said:


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the thing that most prepared him for being Giants HC was being HC at Air Force

Parcells and Coughlin are Giants only two successful coaches of the last 50 years and both had HC experience

So what do Giants do? Hire another career assistant like Judge, Shurmer,, and McAdoo



You are basing your entire argument on just the Giants and a sample size of two? There are a lot of amazing HCs who came out of OC/DC. How about looking at that universe of choices?



I like how you condensed his list of three to two.
Shurmer had been a HQ before...

You can say he had no HQ experience on the NFL level since it was the Browns, but the poster mentioned Air Force, and even Cleveland is as good as Air Force!

HQ?
who knows  
bluepepper : 1/28/2022 7:34 pm : link
how it's going to work out but love that we have a GM-Coach who know and respect each other from a previous gig. I think we are on the right track after several years of being lost.
Is Daboll hired?  
US1 Giants : 1/28/2022 7:35 pm : link
or the Giants are working to hire him? If still working on it, we shouldn't take it as fact yet.
RE: RE: The story shouldn’t be about Jones  
LS : 1/28/2022 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15580938 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15580924 Sean said:


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It should be about Schoen-Daboll evaluating for the next QB. I think Jones *should* be irrelevant in all this.



Jesus, I wish I shared your view on this. I have the worst feeling a certain owner said to a certain new GM that he could have his new HC as long as both agreed to go with a certain QB.


What QB would you use? Remember you have no money, and you need your draft picks to rebuild the roster. Plus Jones has little value right now.
Tom Rock  
Ira : 1/28/2022 7:36 pm : link
@TomRock_Newsday
Steve Tisch: "It was obvious Brian has spent his career preparing for this moment. He is creative, thoughtful, determined. Joe & Brian are the perfect complement to each other. We will do everything we can to support their process as they build toward '22 season and after that."
RE: Is Daboll hired?  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/28/2022 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15581020 US1 Giants said:
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or the Giants are working to hire him? If still working on it, we shouldn't take it as fact yet.


Giants announced it. Done deal.
I think they they got this right.  
Kev in Cali : 1/28/2022 7:38 pm : link
The Bills connection/alignment seems ripe to work out well.

GO GIANTS!!!!
Mc a doodoo  
malslayer : 1/28/2022 7:41 pm : link
Part 2
RE: Is Daboll hired?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/28/2022 7:44 pm : link
In comment 15581020 US1 Giants said:
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or the Giants are working to hire him? If still working on it, we shouldn't take it as fact yet.


See the front page.
I want this to work  
greatgrandpa : 1/28/2022 7:44 pm : link
I really hope it does and will support the new team. But something inside says Mara wanted this result from the beginning and I get a sick feeling when I think of his hands on any decision.
Good Hire  
kelly : 1/28/2022 7:45 pm : link
I think we did well with the hire of Schoen and Daboll. Of course no one can be sure until we start seeing some positive results.

Flores will need to get as a DC and establish he can work with people. The GM and HC need to be aligned and that has been a problem with the Giants going back to Reese.

Good  
AcidTest : 1/28/2022 7:45 pm : link
hire. We had plenty of excellent choices. I agree that Schoen should have his guy as coach. Let's go.
I like it  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/28/2022 7:47 pm : link
Don’t feel too crazy about it either way. The whole situation with Judge made me realize I shouldn’t fall in love with quotes and anecdotes and other BS before I see the coaches actual performance.

We’ll see how he does, I do have concerns about how much of his success was due to Allen’s massive talent but maybe he was a big reason for Allen becoming what he is now. Who knows.

I’m excited about the direction of the franchise. Hopefully we are able to get back on track and start winning again.
RE: RE: The story shouldn’t be about Jones  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/28/2022 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15580938 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15580924 Sean said:


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It should be about Schoen-Daboll evaluating for the next QB. I think Jones *should* be irrelevant in all this.



Jesus, I wish I shared your view on this. I have the worst feeling a certain owner said to a certain new GM that he could have his new HC as long as both agreed to go with a certain QB.


Yes, I’m guessing it’s likely the owners of a billion dollar franchise hired their new GM and HC based on whether they’d keep one player who will be a free agent next year if they don’t pick up his option, because — loyalty?

I am sure everyone wants Daniel Jones to succeed. That makes things a lot easier. But if he’s not the guy, the new GM is tasked with finding the guy. That’s his job. But no one is tasked with keeping Jones at cost to the team. Come on.
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Ira : 1/28/2022 7:48 pm : link

Tom Coughlin Jay Fund
@tcjayfund
Welcome to New York, Coach Daboll!
I just hope he knows what a  
mfsd : 1/28/2022 7:49 pm : link
tailor is
excited to see what he can do with  
prdave73 : 1/28/2022 7:51 pm : link
Daniel Jones.. Can't wait.
like all of us i hope for the best  
Eric on Li : 1/28/2022 7:52 pm : link
hope i'm wrong but this hire feels a lot like McAdoo and Shurmur. in a year where there were numerous candidates available who had successes as head coaches before it's a letdown to be playing coordinator roulette again.

Fangio would make me a feel a lot better.
RE: I give him 2 years  
cjac : 1/28/2022 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15580827 malslayer said:
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Hahahaha. Bravo sir. That made me laugh
RE: excited to see what he can do with  
LS : 1/28/2022 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15581097 prdave73 said:
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Daniel Jones.. Can't wait.


This. Daniel Jones had the same or better numbers his first 2 years in the league than Josh Allen did his first 2 years.
Pat Traina's on board  
Ira : 1/28/2022 7:59 pm : link
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RE: like all of us i hope for the best  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/28/2022 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15581102 Eric on Li said:
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hope i'm wrong but this hire feels a lot like McAdoo and Shurmur. in a year where there were numerous candidates available who had successes as head coaches before it's a letdown to be playing coordinator roulette again.

Fangio would make me a feel a lot better.


Here's one thing to consider. It wasn't John Mara who picked him. Mara picked the last two. I'd be in line with your thinking if it was the same guy making the choice.
Daboll it is  
dpinzow : 1/28/2022 8:02 pm : link
I made a prediction of Schoen/Daboll/Willis a couple of weeks ago. Two down, one to go?
He’s got kind of  
SomeFan : 1/28/2022 8:03 pm : link
a George R R Martin vibe with him.
Good luck  
darren in pdx : 1/28/2022 8:06 pm : link
to Schoen and Daboll. I hope that they are able to make this team competitive and fun to watch again. Next season is going to be rough, but hoping for a functioning offense, even if it'll take a bit to build it up.
Not getting emotionally invested this time  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 1/28/2022 8:09 pm : link
Sorry...not Daboll's fault but numbed from the previous staffs
Very happy about this  
cosmicj : 1/28/2022 8:12 pm : link
Schoen and Daboll were part of a team that just transformed a bottom rung franchise. Perfect experience for them to do the same here.

I also think Daboll’s resume is just so much stronger than McAdoo and Judge, and better than Shurmur given his unsuccessful Cleveland stint. He’s just a much stronger candidate.

Let’s go.
We can officially change our names  
Spiciest Memelord : 1/28/2022 8:13 pm : link
to the Josh Allen Waterboys.
RE: Kidnap Dorsey throw him in the  
KeoweeFan : 1/28/2022 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15580796 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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trunk and get him the hell over here!

After 35 years in Rochester, I was pulling for the Bills*. But even during the game I felt the consolation prize was getting Daboll earlier if he was selected HC.

*Stayed faithful to the NYG as my #1 team; WHAM used to carry Giant games and I'd listen in the UofR computer lab while punching IBM cards on Sundays, the only available time from the University - and I had a full time day job to boot.
RE: RE: like all of us i hope for the best  
Eric on Li : 1/28/2022 8:18 pm : link
In comment 15581130 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15581102 Eric on Li said:


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hope i'm wrong but this hire feels a lot like McAdoo and Shurmur. in a year where there were numerous candidates available who had successes as head coaches before it's a letdown to be playing coordinator roulette again.

Fangio would make me a feel a lot better.



Here's one thing to consider. It wasn't John Mara who picked him. Mara picked the last two. I'd be in line with your thinking if it was the same guy making the choice.


John Mara doesn't pick the 8 or 9 in every 10 new coordinators who fail as HCs in other organizations.

Schoen and Daboll, not unlike Judge, may be a very bright guys who simply don't know what they don't know because they have never done it.

I know this is unorthodox with respect to "the right way", but i believe there's a good reason coaches make 2-3x what GM's make. they are more important and harder to find. I'd have hired 1 of the experienced head coaches (likely Harbough or Flores) and let them pick a GM they can work with. It's a lot easier to find people who can do a good job scouting players than head coaches who can win football games. That's basically what Oakland and KC did with Gruden and Reid. Ron Rivera and Pete Carroll also got hired with say over the GM. There aren't too many examples because there are rarely experienced head coaches available so most of the time that's not an option but since it was this time I think i'd have preferred going that route after the other didnt work 3x in a row.

i hope we got the next mcvay or staley but that's a bet with long odds. maybe the law of averages finally goes in our favor.
If nothing else, Daboll is VASTLY more experienced  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/28/2022 8:30 pm : link
than Judge.

Look, this could fail. But it does also work.

Andy Reid was a rookie Head Coach who had never done anything but coach offensive line.

McVay was named a head coach at 30 years old which was wildly unprecedented. Never a head coach.

McDermott for Buffalo was a rookie head coach
Sean Payton, rookie head coach.
Mike Tomlin, rookie head coach.
Kyle Shanahan, rookie head coach
Mike Vrabel, rookie head coach

None of these men had ever been a head coach before at any level.


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