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Dan Orlovsky - Daboll Loves Daniel Jones

Saos1n : 1/28/2022 7:16 pm
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I heard mid-week this that Daboll absolutely loves Daniel Jones—makes sense now. Good for him-good for DJ.


I don’t, but I’m willing to give it all a chance. It’s our best option, considering the circumstances, for 2022, anyways
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Water under the bridge  
Chris684 : 1/28/2022 7:17 pm : link
but I’d be willing to bet Flores doesn’t.

No need to get crazy about anything tonight though. It’s a good night for the franchise and you can argue as long as no extension is given, the smart thing to do is bring Jones back another year with some stuff competition.
Who knows if it’s true  
gersh : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
Character and personality/wise - I believe it.
We will certainly find out if DJ has enough talent to invest in him.
The draft will be the best early indicator of what they really think
lol heads are gonna explode...  
Chef : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
..
LOL ... all those on BBI who first thought Daboll was a genius, will  
Spider56 : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
now say he’s an idiot ... especially the tortoise.
Who knows if it’s true  
gersh : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link
Character and personality/wise - I believe it.
We will certainly find out if DJ has enough talent to invest in him.
The draft will be the best early indicator of what they really think
People thought Josh Allen  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/28/2022 7:18 pm : link

Was a bust after year 2. Now we get the pair that helped him turn the corner. I really hope they turn DJ's career around.
Wait til he finds out Daniel Jones can't throw a back shoulder fade.  
Producer : 1/28/2022 7:19 pm : link
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RE: People thought Josh Allen  
Producer : 1/28/2022 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15580937 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Was a bust after year 2. Now we get the pair that helped him turn the corner. I really hope they turn DJ's career around.


Nobody thought Josh Allen was a bust after year 2.
Anyone  
English Alaister : 1/28/2022 7:19 pm : link
Who knows anything about evaluating players can see there is talent there.

I'm not saying he's a cert to be great in a better environment but I don't think his career is written yet.
No wonder Mara...  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 7:20 pm : link
relented on Daboll.

This is a helluva risk for Schoen and Daboll to hitch their wagon to Jones.
Hahaha.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/28/2022 7:20 pm : link
What do you people expect him to say?
We don’t know they are putting all their chips in on Jones  
gersh : 1/28/2022 7:21 pm : link
We do know they want Jones (and anyone else) to think so
Yeah sure  
ZogZerg : 1/28/2022 7:22 pm : link
More meaningless BS.
RE: No wonder Mara...  
Thegratefulhead : 1/28/2022 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15580944 bw in dc said:
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relented on Daboll.

This is a helluva risk for Schoen and Daboll to hitch their wagon to Jones.
If they love Jones we are truly fucked. 5th year option and second contract for someone that will never be as good Kirk Cousins.
Hey Dan - I’m the new Giants HC  
gersh : 1/28/2022 7:23 pm : link
Take the scoop “I love Daniel Jones”
Orlovsky “is that true”
Daboll “just post it”
RE: People thought Josh Allen  
Mike from SI : 1/28/2022 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15580937 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Was a bust after year 2. Now we get the pair that helped him turn the corner. I really hope they turn DJ's career around.


Um, what?
Me and perhaps a few others still believe  
Big Blue '56 : 1/28/2022 7:24 pm : link
in Jones, if he can stay on the field..
RE: RE: People thought Josh Allen  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/28/2022 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15580942 Producer said:
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In comment 15580937 Tim in Eternal Blue said:


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Was a bust after year 2. Now we get the pair that helped him turn the corner. I really hope they turn DJ's career around.



Nobody thought Josh Allen was a bust after year 2.


The hell they didn't
Some of y'all need to take a breather.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/28/2022 7:27 pm : link
It is Dan Orlovsky reporting this. And what do you honestly think they are going to say?
RE: Me and perhaps a few others still believe  
bluefin : 1/28/2022 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15580967 Big Blue '56 said:
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in Jones, if he can stay on the field..

hear, hear
If they pick up 5th year option...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/28/2022 7:28 pm : link
Freak out then.

Until then, have a drink.
Look at how Daboll utilizes the passing game  
kelly : 1/28/2022 7:29 pm : link
Instead of asking the quarterback to go through progressions horizontally ie left to right, right to left he has them go through progressions vertically ie short to long on one half or one third of the field.

This makes going through progressions much easier which is beneficial to young quarterbacks.

Producer  
Archer : 1/28/2022 7:30 pm : link
This has to be your nightmare
You guys are crazy  
Tuckrule : 1/28/2022 7:30 pm : link
The kids got a year left on a rookie deal. Why would you move on at this point. Of course he’s the starter going into the year. They’ll build the roster and evaluate him during this season. He’s playing for his career. If he fails we’ll be in great shape to select a QB next season with a much improved roster specifically the offensive line. Plus, we’ll have cap space. It’s such a simple plan and some fans get all worked up on Daniel Jones. Half this site rather see the kid fail terribly then succeed just so they can say I told you so.
Daboll is a confident coach  
Aaroninma : 1/28/2022 7:31 pm : link
Jones has a lot of good parts of his game, and his toughness and attitude are top notch. I bet Daboll thinks(and i hope hes right) that he can develop him.
What's not to love?  
Go Terps : 1/28/2022 7:31 pm : link
RE: LOL ... all those on BBI who first thought Daboll was a genius, will  
Ron Johnson : 1/28/2022 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15580935 Spider56 said:
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now say he’s an idiot ... especially the tortoise.


Hilarious

RE: LOL ... all those on BBI who first thought Daboll was a genius, will  
Maryland Blows : 1/28/2022 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15580935 Spider56 said:
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now say he’s an idiot ... especially the tortoise.


Exactly, I love it. Go Blue! Time to turn this team around.
Ditch Jones  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/28/2022 7:34 pm : link
and I'm happy with how this staff is shaping up. I just don't think Jones is salvagable.

Cut the cord, bring in a vet, get your QB in 23.
RE: Me and perhaps a few others still believe  
BillT : 1/28/2022 7:34 pm : link
In comment 15580967 Big Blue '56 said:
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in Jones, if he can stay on the field..

I believe that I don’t know about DJ. But he was probably going to get another year no matter who the coach was so we’ll all get to watch.
Hey - If He Does  
Sammo85 : 1/28/2022 7:35 pm : link
Good for him. I like people loving other people.

His job depends on it potentially and guess what, if he can't get Jones fixed or find a suitable franchise guy thereafter, he'll be getting fired in 2 or 3 years.
I'm with BB56 on Jones.  
Red Dog : 1/28/2022 7:35 pm : link
Give him some good coaching and put some good players around him and they just might have something really good.

Remember, it took Phil Simms a few years to find his stride, conquer the injury bug, and prove his worth.

I'm not ready to give up on Jones yet either.
RE: You guys are crazy  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/28/2022 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15580988 Tuckrule said:
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The kids got a year left on a rookie deal. Why would you move on at this point. Of course he’s the starter going into the year. They’ll build the roster and evaluate him during this season. He’s playing for his career. If he fails we’ll be in great shape to select a QB next season with a much improved roster specifically the offensive line. Plus, we’ll have cap space. It’s such a simple plan and some fans get all worked up on Daniel Jones. Half this site rather see the kid fail terribly then succeed just so they can say I told you so.


Didn't we say that last year? Wasn't that his make or break year? How many chances does this fucker get?
RE: RE: No wonder Mara...  
bw in dc : 1/28/2022 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15580958 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 15580944 bw in dc said:


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relented on Daboll.

This is a helluva risk for Schoen and Daboll to hitch their wagon to Jones.

If they love Jones we are truly fucked. 5th year option and second contract for someone that will never be as good Kirk Cousins.


You know the old saying. You really don't know what you have with a QB until their 4th, 5th or even 6th year.
Well now we have almost all of the DJ crowd on board.  
BillT : 1/28/2022 7:39 pm : link
All of them showing the brave front and doubling down for the umpteeth time. But we know this headline gave them all a bit of angina. That alone makes it worthwhile.
The  
AcidTest : 1/28/2022 7:40 pm : link
whole issue is moot for 2022 because Jones is likely the only viable option. I agree we should bring in a veteran to challenge him, but he's still likely to be the starter on opening day.

I can't see the Giants picking up Jones's fifth year option, especially given their cap limitations, his performance to date, and his injury history.

There is a reasonable chance that Jones plays better in 2022 because with DG gone, he'll likely have a credible OL in front of him. Barkley will also be two years removed from his ACL tear. But will it be good enough to justify putting the franchise tag on him in 2023, which would cost about $30M IIRC, or signing him to a long-term deal? And would the Giants really want to do the latter no matter how well he plays in 2022, especially given his neck injury?

I'm rooting for him. He's a tough kid who works hard. He also is not the talentless bum he's been portrayed as so often here.
RE: No wonder Mara...  
UConn4523 : 1/28/2022 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15580944 bw in dc said:
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relented on Daboll.

This is a helluva risk for Schoen and Daboll to hitch their wagon to Jones.


1 year Isn’t hitching their wagon.
RE: Well now we have almost all of the DJ crowd on board.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/28/2022 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15581044 BillT said:
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All of them showing the brave front and doubling down for the umpteeth time. But we know this headline gave them all a bit of angina. That alone makes it worthwhile.


The proof is in the pudding
I don't believe in Jones  
Bill in UT : 1/28/2022 7:46 pm : link
I also am not sure he can't a franchise QB going forward. I don't think it's likely, but I'll give it one more show me year.
RE: RE: You guys are crazy  
Tuckrule : 1/28/2022 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15581021 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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In comment 15580988 Tuckrule said:


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The kids got a year left on a rookie deal. Why would you move on at this point. Of course he’s the starter going into the year. They’ll build the roster and evaluate him during this season. He’s playing for his career. If he fails we’ll be in great shape to select a QB next season with a much improved roster specifically the offensive line. Plus, we’ll have cap space. It’s such a simple plan and some fans get all worked up on Daniel Jones. Half this site rather see the kid fail terribly then succeed just so they can say I told you so.



Didn't we say that last year? Wasn't that his make or break year? How many chances does this fucker get?


Can you honestly say this line/coaching staff gave him a chance. Let’s be realistic. We saw every snap of every game. This line was easily one of the worst I’ve ever seen on a pro field. We didn’t have any running. Zero. Jones was the leading rusher for about half the season. So we had no protection. No run game no threat of play action. It was a sad watch. I do think jones is good enough to win with. I compared him to Alex Smith when he was drafted. He could, with a better team much like Alex had in KC, be a very good QB. We haven’t seen him with a real team yet. Give him a real shot. I think with a solid draft he’ll have his chance to sink or swim.
They really should not say anything else.  
St. Jimmy : 1/28/2022 7:51 pm : link
Worst case scenario, it is a free year because they did not draft him. If it works out, their job is easier.
RE: RE: You guys are crazy  
Scooter185 : 1/28/2022 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15581021 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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In comment 15580988 Tuckrule said:


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The kids got a year left on a rookie deal. Why would you move on at this point. Of course he’s the starter going into the year. They’ll build the roster and evaluate him during this season. He’s playing for his career. If he fails we’ll be in great shape to select a QB next season with a much improved roster specifically the offensive line. Plus, we’ll have cap space. It’s such a simple plan and some fans get all worked up on Daniel Jones. Half this site rather see the kid fail terribly then succeed just so they can say I told you so.



Didn't we say that last year? Wasn't that his make or break year? How many chances does this fucker get?


And the Defense Force will be saying it again after next season too, blaming the new HC/OC/system and needing time to adjust. Apparently Daniel Jones is a cat, or made of Teflon.

Absolutely mind boggling
Does Orlovsky know how Daboll feels about  
Mad Mike : 1/28/2022 7:51 pm : link
Annacott Steel?
RE: RE: RE: You guys are crazy  
Go Terps : 1/28/2022 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15581092 Tuckrule said:
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In comment 15581021 LakeGeorgeGiant said:


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In comment 15580988 Tuckrule said:


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The kids got a year left on a rookie deal. Why would you move on at this point. Of course he’s the starter going into the year. They’ll build the roster and evaluate him during this season. He’s playing for his career. If he fails we’ll be in great shape to select a QB next season with a much improved roster specifically the offensive line. Plus, we’ll have cap space. It’s such a simple plan and some fans get all worked up on Daniel Jones. Half this site rather see the kid fail terribly then succeed just so they can say I told you so.



Didn't we say that last year? Wasn't that his make or break year? How many chances does this fucker get?



Can you honestly say this line/coaching staff gave him a chance. Let’s be realistic. We saw every snap of every game. This line was easily one of the worst I’ve ever seen on a pro field. We didn’t have any running. Zero. Jones was the leading rusher for about half the season. So we had no protection. No run game no threat of play action. It was a sad watch. I do think jones is good enough to win with. I compared him to Alex Smith when he was drafted. He could, with a better team much like Alex had in KC, be a very good QB. We haven’t seen him with a real team yet. Give him a real shot. I think with a solid draft he’ll have his chance to sink or swim.


So Gettleman sucked at putting together the offensive line and every other part of the roster but he got the quarterback right?
RE: Does Orlovsky know how Daboll feels about  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/28/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15581100 Mad Mike said:
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Annacott Steel?


LOL
RE: RE: RE: You guys are crazy  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/28/2022 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15581092 Tuckrule said:
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Can you honestly say this line/coaching staff gave him a chance. Let’s be realistic. We saw every snap of every game. This line was easily one of the worst I’ve ever seen on a pro field. We didn’t have any running. Zero. Jones was the leading rusher for about half the season. So we had no protection. No run game no threat of play action. It was a sad watch. I do think jones is good enough to win with. I compared him to Alex Smith when he was drafted. He could, with a better team much like Alex had in KC, be a very good QB. We haven’t seen him with a real team yet. Give him a real shot. I think with a solid draft he’ll have his chance to sink or swim.


Well, one of the two of us isn't being realistic.


Psst..it's not me.
3 words  
LoveFootball : 1/28/2022 7:57 pm : link
Matthew Anthony Corral
RE: They really should not say anything else.  
Scooter185 : 1/28/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15581095 St. Jimmy said:
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Worst case scenario, it is a free year because they did not draft him. If it works out, their job is easier.


If they're trying to sell everyone on "we can fix DJ" and that doesn't happen, it's not a free year but rather a big strike against them. They'd be much better served with their own QB they can sell needing development time or a veteran bridge with no expectations to "fix'

DJ being the starter makes their jobs harder
What?  
Bill in TN : 1/28/2022 8:05 pm : link
Johnny Manziel II?
Stop work the “franchise QB” crap.  
Dave on the UWS : 1/28/2022 8:11 pm : link
Can he be serviceable is the question, in the short run. There are aspects of Daboll’s system that “should” make Jones more productive, so we will see.
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